Israel-Hamas War 2023

[Tamas]

Get (more) help. Seriously. I don't know if you've been unable or unwilling to see a professional or take medication or if your current methods aren't working as well anymore, but you're well past the point of spiraling and into the "very concerning" level. 

This is one of the more disgusting attacks I've read here in a while, and that's quite an achievement on a forum where crazy canuck is a prolific poster.

 

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

[Sophie Scholl]

Directed comment and pleading? Yes. Attack? Not as such. I fail to see how it is much of an attack let alone a "disgusting attack". 

[Admiral Yi]

Directed comment and pleading? Yes. Attack? Not as such. I fail to see how it is much of an attack let alone a "disgusting attack". 

How would you respond to a similar comment directed at you?

[Razgovory]

Get (more) help. Seriously. I don't know if you've been unable or unwilling to see a professional or take medication or if your current methods aren't working as well anymore, but you're well past the point of spiraling and into the "very concerning" level. 

This is one of the more disgusting attacks I've read here in a while, and that's quite an achievement on a forum where crazy canuck is a prolific poster.

 

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

It's not like this is some obscure topic.  It's in the news every day...

[Syt]

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

I didn't see it as attack as much as concern, one which I am sharing.

[Tamas]

Get (more) help. Seriously. I don't know if you've been unable or unwilling to see a professional or take medication or if your current methods aren't working as well anymore, but you're well past the point of spiraling and into the "very concerning" level. 

This is one of the more disgusting attacks I've read here in a while, and that's quite an achievement on a forum where crazy canuck is a prolific poster.

 

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

It's not like this is some obscure topic.  It's in the news every day...

Sure and you are very far from being the only person in the world obsessing over it, but I do agree with the others: I miss Old Raz who could write about something else other than his white&black view of the Gaza war. It would especially be welcome if you didn't turn every single thread into a discussion of that. I read the Guardian I see enough of that there.

[Razgovory]

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

I didn't see it as attack as much as concern, one which I am sharing.

I have job now.  I even have something of a social life of sorts  I even made this salad where I misspelled both "Garden" and "Salad"

[HVC]

Why does Trump and racism not become tedious?

Raz, you keep bringing that up as a defense that youre being singled out, but is there a poster who tries to waylay every thread into a discussion about how bad Trump is? Once again it's not the topic, it's  insisting on dragging every  conversation, whether it's anyway related or not, into the same topic that's the issue.

You say people are annoyed because the topic is uncomfortable, but the Israel discussion thread is over 400 pages long, so clearly discussing it isn't an issue. Until, that is, every thread becomes a discussion on it.

[Razgovory]

Why does Trump and racism not become tedious?

Raz, you keep bringing that up as a defense that youre being singled out, but is there a poster who tries to waylay every thread into a discussion about how bad Trump is? Once again it's not the topic, it's  insisting on dragging every  conversation, whether it's anyway related or not, into the same topic that's the issue.

You say people are annoyed because the topic is uncomfortable, but the Israel discussion thread is over 400 pages long, so clearly discussing it isn't an issue. Until, that is, every thread becomes a discussion on it.

We have threads that constantly digress on Trump, it's not really any different.

[DGuller]

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

I didn't see it as attack as much as concern, one which I am sharing.

It's an attack expressed as a "concern", in order to delegitimize someone's viewpoint.  Unless you're completely lacking in social skills, you don't express such concern publicly that sounds very much like a denunciation.

[crazy canuck]

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

I didn't see it as attack as much as concern, one which I am sharing.

It's an attack expressed as a "concern", in order to delegitimize someone's viewpoint.  Unless you're completely lacking in social skills, you don't express such concern publicly that sounds very much like a denunciation.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to sound like we were denounce somebody who strongly advocates the killing of civilians. Nope we live in a world where anti-woke forces don't allow that sort of thing in the name of freedom of expression. Or they're just a fucking Russian troll.

[Norgy]

It is rather ironic that this happens in a thread about the great delegitimiser The Donald.

Is this the new Incan Torpedo Boat? 

[DGuller]

Let's face it, we think Raz is over-Razzing the Gaza thing because of his mental health issues because we know he has mental health issues.

If Raz was some random new poster, Sophie wouldn't suggesting he changes his medication. So it IS a personal attack.

I didn't see it as attack as much as concern, one which I am sharing.

It's an attack expressed as a "concern", in order to delegitimize someone's viewpoint.  Unless you're completely lacking in social skills, you don't express such concern publicly that sounds very much like a denunciation.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to sound like we were denounce somebody who strongly advocates the killing of civilians. Nope we live in a world where anti-woke forces don't allow that sort of thing in the name of freedom of expression. Or they're just a fucking Russian troll.

So what you're saying is that Sophie's "concern" really was a denunciation? 

[DGuller]

Why does Trump and racism not become tedious?

Raz, you keep bringing that up as a defense that youre being singled out, but is there a poster who tries to waylay every thread into a discussion about how bad Trump is? Once again it's not the topic, it's  insisting on dragging every  conversation, whether it's anyway related or not, into the same topic that's the issue.

You say people are annoyed because the topic is uncomfortable, but the Israel discussion thread is over 400 pages long, so clearly discussing it isn't an issue. Until, that is, every thread becomes a discussion on it.

We have threads that constantly digress on Trump, it's not really any different.

Raz, I agree with you, but I also agree with HVC.  I do think that you are making people squirm because you are effectively digging at their cognitive dissonance.  I am utterly convinced that no one here would be expressing "concern", or issuing ban threats, if you were doing everything that you were doing, but taking the opposite side of the argument.

That said, at some point, what are you achieving by continuously picking on their cognitive dissonance?  I understand how hard it can be to win the argument on facts, but have it nullified because the loser is part of a clique and you aren't.  Unfortunately, that clique's dissonance isn't going to go away, but they can make you go away.  That won't help them, it won't help you, and it won't help the people you think are in the right.

[DGuller]

DG, please never reply to my comments, mention me directly, or reference me indirectly again. I'll be more than happy to reciprocate. Thank you and goodbye. 

I'll do the best I can, but if you (or anyone else) weaponize people's disclosed mental health issues against them, I will step in regardless of who it is.  Frankly I think it's everyone duty to do that, it's one of the most sacred norms we have to upkeep here.