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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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Razgovory

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October 12, 2025, 08:54:03 PM
I guess someone should do something about that.  Maybe Canada?  The UK?  South Africa?  Ireland?  I dunno.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

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October 12, 2025, 09:56:52 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 12, 2025, 07:59:06 PMYes of course.  Between Hamas and Israel, any possible expression of Palestinian civil society in Gaza has been utterly destroyed.  Hamas is all there is left to fill the vacuum. Which of course serves the Likudniks just fine because it ensures Gaza will remain weak and isolated and destitute, as well as feed their hard-line security narrative.  It's a symbiotic relationship.

How did Israel destroy any possible expression of Palestinian civil society?

The Minsky Moment

#6542
October 12, 2025, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 12, 2025, 09:56:52 PMHow did Israel destroy any possible expression of Palestinian civil society?

By destroying the housing, the shops, the businesses, the offices, the mosques and churches, the coffee shops and restaurants, the social clubs, the hospitals and the clinics.  By rendering the entire population destitute and jobless, by destroying all meaningful economic activity, forcing the entire population to be nearly completely reliant on outside aid.

What other organized body is left in Gaza other than Hamas?
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Admiral Yi

#6543
October 12, 2025, 11:06:29 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 12, 2025, 10:46:36 PMBy destroying the housing, the shops, the businesses, the offices, the mosques and churches, the coffee shops and restaurants, the social clubs, the hospitals and the clinics.  By rendering the entire population destitute and jobless, by destroying all meaningful economic activity, forcing the entire population to be nearly completely reliant on outside aid.

What other organized body is left in Gaza other than Hamas?

Are you saying before the invasion civic society other than Hamas *did* exist in Gaza?

The article mentions opposition based on tribe.
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