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Israel-Hamas War 2023

Started by Zanza, October 07, 2023, 04:56:14 AM

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OttoVonBismarck

There's not actually an obligation to feed your enemy during war. Sieges are entirely legal, it is a legal, and rhetorical, fiction to suggest otherwise.

And children are not special in war--Hamas has many children who fight for it, you aren't immune from being worthy of killing just because you are under the legal age of majority in the West. There's 12 year olds in Gaza who are as much a soldier as anyone else in the war.

Josquius

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Quote from: Razgovory on October 15, 2025, 07:58:19 PM
Quote from: Josquius on October 15, 2025, 01:04:48 PMThe main difference I'd see is one of scale.
If Hamas started spreading indiscriminate death and destruction on the scale of the IDF then I'd be all for foreign intervention.
When within a few days of the IDF stopping their campaign there's been a few shootings.... Well it's just not equivalent is it.
The religion of the killers is irrelevant.
Give me a ball park figure on how many Palestinian have to die at Hamas hands before it becomes concerning.  If you want something well past the scale of the IDF you can look at Saudi Arabia in Yemen.  And now all the protesters for Gaza have nothing to do, I'm sure they'll move on to the atrocities in Yemen.  Your country and even CC's country can influence that.  So certainly everyone will march to stop those kids from being killed.  That is if they feel those kids are important.

My distaste for the Saudis long predates my coming off the fence against Israel.
But I'm sure you know my views better than me.

For people at large... It's true Palestine gets way more attention than equivalent shit elswhere.
Though the continued insinuation it's because of anti semitism - :yawn:

More likely factors in my mind.

1: it's right next to Europe. Proximity makes things matter more.

2: Israel sort of presents as part of Europe, being in UEFA, Eurovision, etc... Being a western democracy latched onto the middle east, etc....
This applies from angles of both seeing more chance of getting change, there actually being easy actions European organisations can take, and seeing more responsibility from our side that one of ours is behaving so foul.

3: Palestine is under normal circumstances a urbanised middle income place where people live lives not very different at all to people in Greece or Italy for example. There's more relatability there.
Also arguably with some a racial element in them just looking more European.

4: Because Palestine is a richer and more urban place.... It also has more journalists and more cameras. There's more to see coming out of Palestine than Sudan or Yemen.
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