What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Camerus

One positive is that I expect Trump's approval ratings to drop again after this ugliness, just as they did after Charlottesville.

Valmy

Quote from: Camerus on July 19, 2019, 05:05:17 PM
One positive is that I expect Trump's approval ratings to drop again after this ugliness, just as they did after Charlottesville.

Yeah well unless it happens in early November 2020...
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Solmyr

Quote from: Camerus on July 19, 2019, 05:05:17 PM
One positive is that I expect Trump's approval ratings to drop again after this ugliness, just as they did after Charlottesville.

Didn't his support among Republicans rise after the racist tweets?

Ancient Demon

Nothing Trump said was actually racist. The racists are the ones who want different treatment based on race, like most of the modern Democratic party apparently.
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garbon

Quote from: Ancient Demon on July 20, 2019, 11:38:46 AM
Nothing Trump said was actually racist. The racists are the ones who want different treatment based on race, like most of the modern Democratic party apparently.

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Valmy

Quote from: Ancient Demon on July 20, 2019, 11:38:46 AM
Nothing Trump said was actually racist. The racists are the ones who want different treatment based on race, like most of the modern Democratic party apparently.

I am not sure what you are basing that on.

But being called racist all the time is what the internet is all about so fire away.
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Quote from: Valmy on July 20, 2019, 12:17:52 PM
I am not sure what you are basing that on.

Again, current Republican web of talking points designed (and endlessly repeated) to strengthen core identity. They're not racists (they are the least racist people you know), it's the Democrats who are the real racists. They engage in reverse racism. Did you know it was the Southern Democrats who were racists? And that the Klan was a majority Democrat institution?

Edit: See the latest meme posted by Syt in the Facebook thread. It really has become an all-pervasive element of the GOP cult.
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frunk

Quote from: Ancient Demon on July 20, 2019, 11:38:46 AM
Nothing Trump said was actually racist. The racists are the ones who want different treatment based on race, like most of the modern Democratic party apparently.

Do you think Trump would say the same thing about Pelosi, Clinton, Biden or Sanders?  He has said pretty much the same thing about Obama.  What's the difference I wonder.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: frunk on July 20, 2019, 04:19:56 PM
Do you think Trump would say the same thing about Pelosi, Clinton, Biden or Sanders?  He has said pretty much the same thing about Obama.  What's the difference I wonder.

Aren't the targets of Trump's ire all more or less Off The Boat?  Seems to me the more appropriate charge is anti-immigrant....ism, rather than racism.

frunk

Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2019, 05:11:43 PM

Aren't the targets of Trump's ire all more or less Off The Boat?  Seems to me the more appropriate charge is anti-immigrant....ism, rather than racism.

Only one of them wasn't born an American citizen.

mongers

Quote from: frunk on July 20, 2019, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2019, 05:11:43 PM

Aren't the targets of Trump's ire all more or less Off The Boat?  Seems to me the more appropriate charge is anti-immigrant....ism, rather than racism.

Only one of them wasn't born an American citizen.

I don't know the details about congresswomen's ancestry, but two of Trumps grandparents weren't even Americans and the other two I think arrived in their late childhood/early adulthood.

Where as I wouldn't be surprised if the black congresswoman's ancestors spent considerably longer in the US and further back too.

The difference in his 'perception' is one of whiteness / white nationalism.   
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grumbler

Quote from: frunk on July 20, 2019, 05:18:14 PM
Only one of them wasn't born an American citizen.

Trump refuses to believe his own father's birth certificate.  I'm pretty sure he's convinced that people are born wherever he thinks they were born.
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dps

Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 03:06:06 PM
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Quote from: garbon on July 16, 2019, 10:38:05 AM
Anyway, the House Republicans now are falling into line that it wasn't a racist set of tweets but rather a policy critique, a clash of socialism vs. American values...dems calling the tweets racists are engaging in cynical, political ploys...:(

It may have actually been more sexist than racist.  I have a feeling what he was really trying to say was to tell them to go back to the kitchen.

What does gender have to do with go back to your countries?

What part of "I have a feeling what he was trying to say was to tell them to go back to the kitchen" did you miss?

garbon

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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

OttoVonBismarck

Trump reported today he could easily win the Afghanistan War in a week. Bold implications considering he's been President for 2.5 years.