What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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viper37

Nikkei 227 and Topix have plunged over 7% triggering the circuit breaker.  Meltdown incoming.

If the GOPtards don't react for this, nothing will wake them up.
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If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: viper37 on April 06, 2025, 10:48:11 PMUS warns EU against excluding American companies from € 150 billion defense initiative which can supply Ukraine with weapons

Please keep buying from us or we will stop the shipments in the middle of a war!

The amis should just shut up, cause they're only making it worse by yapping. But of course the cheese puff in chief can't,  and neither can the rest of clique.
Shame the graves of the founding fathers aren't hooked up to the power grid, you'd have full green energy they're spinning so hard  :(

Josquius

Quote from: grumbler on April 06, 2025, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 06, 2025, 12:45:11 PM(snip)

I think that may be shifting and I think Republicans are over-interpreting their victory. It was a narrow victory, there has been a profound (and perhaps lasting) vibe shift at a cultural/corporate level - but they're behaving and crowing like this is FDR and the first hundred days. That is not the mandate they have and, frankly, that's reflected in so much of the action being through executive orders of questionable legitimacy and effectiveness v legislation from Congress.

This, I think is the key blind spot of the MAGAts. They fail to realize that everyone else realizes that, e.g. tariffs imposed by whim are understood to be purely whimsical. No one is going to invest billions of dollars over five years to build a factory in the US with the hope that Trump's whims don't ruin their plans. Tariffs enacted legally, through legislation, cannot be ended on a whim. Those are viewed as legitimate tariffs, not whimsical ones.  That is why they did result in production shifts (not always wisely, but that's a different story).

Even if we ignore that they've a big delusion of what this means. They think the clock can just be turned back the 60s at work with good factory jobs (man are they fetishising that) paying enough to support a family.... Yet expecting the world outside work not to see everything costing 5 times as much to match.

I'm really hoping for an unintended positive side back of a move away from disposable culture back towards buying things to last.
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grumbler

The fact that US manufacturing by real value peaked in 2023 is ignored by the MAGAts.  They are so focused on manufacturing as a percentage of GDP that they act as though growth of the denominator is bad.

Modern manufacturing does not provide many jobs. And new plants will be even more automated than existing ones.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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