What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[11B4V]

If you have something to say, by all means feel free to elucidate your position.  Firing off sarcastic potshots nonstop, while never committing yourself by fully expressing your own opinion, is chickenshit.

GOP is a bunch of retards.

[jimmy olsen]

AR, you are confusing race with income.

The tendencies of the wealthy to skew Republican and the poor Dem hasn't been true for a very long time.

Which is no real surprise, really. Populism requires low intelligence and a healthy amount of ignorance, and low intelligence, ignorance, and lack of education very much correlate with the current Republican Party.

As Tim's chart shows, the lower incomes still skew democrat and the upper incomes republican. As I mentioned the effect is less than before, but it is still the case.

Skew implies a gap a lot larger than 1-2%

[Oexmelin]

Dude, this isn't a pendulum.  This is a 4G tailspin blackout.  There's no epiphanic "coming to their senses" scene.  There are no happy endings here.

A thousand times this. The hardest point to convey to students, in US history, is that there is no magic system that keeps everything right and proper, in wait for the automatic recentering that will inevitably happen once people simply reveal the good that was buried in there all along. Even RBG on the Supreme Court recently used hat vocabulary of the magic pendulum - it's mind boggling.

[alfred russel]

AR, you are confusing race with income.

The tendencies of the wealthy to skew Republican and the poor Dem hasn't been true for a very long time.

Which is no real surprise, really. Populism requires low intelligence and a healthy amount of ignorance, and low intelligence, ignorance, and lack of education very much correlate with the current Republican Party.

As Tim's chart shows, the lower incomes still skew democrat and the upper incomes republican. As I mentioned the effect is less than before, but it is still the case.

Skew implies a gap a lot larger than 1-2%

It is a crime that you are involved in the education of young people.

[jimmy olsen]

AR, you are confusing race with income.

The tendencies of the wealthy to skew Republican and the poor Dem hasn't been true for a very long time.

Which is no real surprise, really. Populism requires low intelligence and a healthy amount of ignorance, and low intelligence, ignorance, and lack of education very much correlate with the current Republican Party.

As Tim's chart shows, the lower incomes still skew democrat and the upper incomes republican. As I mentioned the effect is less than before, but it is still the case.

Skew implies a gap a lot larger than 1-2%

It is a crime that you are involved in the education of young people.

Look, in math it simply means non parrallel lines, but it's use in everday conversation is not the same. It implies a greater deviation, and often bias as well.

[DGuller]

In math skew implies a non-zero third moment. 

[Razgovory]

I predict Moore wins and that's when the Republican pushback starts, when they realize they've gone absolutely fucking mental.  The end of the pendulum.

God, I hope so.

[Razgovory]

Dude, this isn't a pendulum.  This is a 4G tailspin blackout.  There's no epiphanic "coming to their senses" scene.  There are no happy endings here.

A thousand times this. The hardest point to convey to students, in US history, is that there is no magic system that keeps everything right and proper, in wait for the automatic recentering that will inevitably happen once people simply reveal the good that was buried in there all along. Even RBG on the Supreme Court recently used hat vocabulary of the magic pendulum - it's mind boggling.

What's hat vocabulary?

[mongers]

Dude, this isn't a pendulum.  This is a 4G tailspin blackout.  There's no epiphanic "coming to their senses" scene.  There are no happy endings here.

A thousand times this. The hardest point to convey to students, in US history, is that there is no magic system that keeps everything right and proper, in wait for the automatic recentering that will inevitably happen once people simply reveal the good that was buried in there all along. Even RBG on the Supreme Court recently used hat vocabulary of the magic pendulum - it's mind boggling.

What's hat vocabulary?

Off the top of my head, it's a bald claim.

[DGuller]

Dude, this isn't a pendulum.  This is a 4G tailspin blackout.  There's no epiphanic "coming to their senses" scene.  There are no happy endings here.

A thousand times this. The hardest point to convey to students, in US history, is that there is no magic system that keeps everything right and proper, in wait for the automatic recentering that will inevitably happen once people simply reveal the good that was buried in there all along. Even RBG on the Supreme Court recently used hat vocabulary of the magic pendulum - it's mind boggling.

Could be as simple as survivorship bias.  Our democracy has weathered all political maladies before, therefore there must be some magical force behind it.  Maybe we've just been lucky with our prior rounds of playing Russian roulette with democracy, and confused luck with skill.

What's sad is that this myth in magic pendulum actually does influence people's behavior.  I've heard someone actually justify supporting Trump by going:  "Come on, American system is too strong to let someone like Trump turn it into a dictatorship, but he says things that need to be said."  Obviously pointing out that this system relies on voters not voting in openly authoritarian politicians would be futile.

[alfred russel]

Look, in math it simply means non parrallel lines, but it's use in everday conversation is not the same. It implies a greater deviation, and often bias as well.

Relative to the population at large, the wealthy are biased toward republicans and the poor toward democrats. The exit polls you posted show that!

Had the top 1/3 of the wealth in the country voted like the bottom 1/3, the polling indicates we would have a president clinton right now. Had the bottom 1/3 voted like the top 1/3, Trump would be bragging about a big popular vote win as well.

So the differences are not only reflective of the biases of the income groups, but those biases were decisive in the election.

If you want to trivialize decisive differences as not big enough to warrant the word "skew"...

[jimmy olsen]

Relative to the population at large, the wealthy are biased toward republicans and the poor toward democrats. The exit polls you posted show that!

That's not what I meant by bias. If someone says the test/poll results were skewed, they mean someone put there thumb on the scale to change the result.

[Razgovory]

Seems Roy Moore has a problem with every amendment of the US Constitution after the 10th.

[alfred russel]

If someone says the test/poll results were skewed, they mean someone put there thumb on the scale to change the result.

You are an idiot. There is no point to a discussion with you, because you are just dumb.

[Razgovory]

If someone says the test/poll results were skewed, they mean someone put there thumb on the scale to change the result.

You are an idiot. There is no point to a discussion with you, because you are just dumb.

You can talk to me.  I'm also an idiot, but not quite as dumb.  What's Hat Vocabulary?