What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Bannon on Catholic Church's DACA support: 'They need illegal aliens to fill the churches'


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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
Interesting. Why is that?

He's one of the reasons I gave up on The Atlantic.  Heavy on style, light on logic.

Oexmelin

Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2017, 04:26:35 PM
I told you people all this last November.  But no, as usual, when CdM traffics in the truth, Languish misses the bus with their rolleyes bullshit.  Gimme my Pulitzer.

You should write.
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FunkMonk

Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
Interesting. Why is that?

He's one of the reasons I gave up on The Atlantic.  Heavy on style, light on logic.

Pretty much. He writes very well but that is about it for me. There is a kernel of truth in what he writes but he relies so heavy on the prose that I think it hurts his point in whatever argument he's trying to make.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: FunkMonk on September 07, 2017, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
Interesting. Why is that?

He's one of the reasons I gave up on The Atlantic.  Heavy on style, light on logic.

Pretty much. He writes very well but that is about it for me. There is a kernel of truth in what he writes but he relies so heavy on the prose that I think it hurts his point in whatever argument he's trying to make.

His argument is pretty simple, that you can't accurately analyze American politics without admitting that alot of it is shaped, directly and inderictly, by white supremacy and instutional racism.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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FunkMonk

#13796
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 07, 2017, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 07, 2017, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 07, 2017, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2017, 01:50:15 PM
Interesting. Why is that?

He's one of the reasons I gave up on The Atlantic.  Heavy on style, light on logic.

Pretty much. He writes very well but that is about it for me. There is a kernel of truth in what he writes but he relies so heavy on the prose that I think it hurts his point in whatever argument he's trying to make.

His argument is pretty simple, that you can't accurately analyze American politics without admitting that alot of it is shaped, directly and inderictly, by white supremacy and instutional racism.

No shit, genius. I'm saying he works against his own argument (which I actually kind of agree with) by being shit at actually persuading people by being light on logic and preaching to the choir.
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#13797
Quote from: Oexmelin on September 07, 2017, 12:51:19 PM
Ta-Nehisi Coates on Trump, in the Atlantic:

It's true that Trump won white men by 31%.  But ascribing that , as Coates does, to racialism and revulsion towards a black president, is difficult to do when placed in context with that margin in the previous two non-incumbency elections:

Bush-Gore 2000: 24%
Obama-McCain 2008: 16%
Trump-Clinton 2016:  31%

Comparatively speaking, fear of a black president was thin on the ground when a black man was running for President.  Obama's share of the white male in 08 was easily the highest of any Democratic candidate in this generation. 

There is I think a simpler explanation for Trumps massive margin among white men.  Coates riffs on the alt right's "c*uck" (damn you Jacob) obsession, portraying it as a fear of black male sexuality.  There is something to that, but at its core it is really about fear of *female* sexuality, particularly female sexuality unconstrained by patriarchal control . Similarly, the simpler story in 2016 is not white male voters rebelling against non-candidate Obama, but white male voters turning against actual 2016 candidate HRC.

The more obvious culprit here is misogyny.   
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#13798
Quote from: celedhring on September 07, 2017, 05:42:26 PM
So the shtick was getting stale and it was time for a face turn? I think Trump's presidency is easier to understand when applying wrestling storyline logic.  :hmm:

He wants to be loved and accepted, something he never got from the the New York elite. If he gets in his head that working with the libs gives him positive coverage he might become the most liberal republican yet :D . Dude is like a 5 year old.
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#13799
My personal favourite overly simplistic reason to explain Trump is still Joe Biden's.