What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump and Sessions can scuttle the program or keep it going, or modify it as they wish.  He can implement whatever fix he wants.

The only way this could make sense is if Trump liked the program but had constitutional scruples about implementing it without specific congressional direction.  But Trump has no scruples so that can't be it.

Which means the play here is to kill DACA and take credit with his nativist buddies, make vague claims about wanting to do something for Dreamers, but then tsk-tsk and throw blame on Congress for not getting it down.

What an asshole.

[Tonitrus]

Agree.  It seems impossible to see this as anything other than an extremely cynical move.

But, then, Trumps general policy strategy is something like...

[frunk]

Did you change the cat image?

[Tonitrus]

I found a more evil-looking one, yes. 

[Eddie Teach]

That looks staged.

[dps]

Trump and Sessions can scuttle the program or keep it going, or modify it as they wish.  He can implement whatever fix he wants.

The only way this could make sense is if Trump liked the program but had constitutional scruples about implementing it without specific congressional direction.  But Trump has no scruples so that can't be it.

Which means the play here is to kill DACA and take credit with his nativist buddies, make vague claims about wanting to do something for Dreamers, but then tsk-tsk and throw blame on Congress for not getting it down.

What an asshole.

My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong here) is that the DACA program was just supposed to be a temporary thing to allow Congress time to come up with a permanent solution, so in that light Trump could be seen as just telling Congress to hurry up and do something.

Given Trump's character (or lack thereof) I think you analysis is much more likely, but I can see the benefit of trying to force Congress to come up with a lasting fix.  Not that I have any confidence in Congress to come up with a good fix, no matter which party is in control.

[Razgovory]

A peepee tape doesn't hit the top 20 of screwed up stuff Trump's done that would have sunk anyone else.  Release of the tape would just be another Reality TV moment he'd shrug off, his people will then spin it as proof he isn't a Russian tool.

Trump said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and not lose any support.  The man does know one thing:  How to spot a mark.

[CountDeMoney]

My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong here) is that the DACA program was just supposed to be a temporary thing to allow Congress time to come up with a permanent solution, so in that light Trump could be seen as just telling Congress to hurry up and do something.

Yup, just an EO allowing for renewable work permits until a law got passed addressing their unique position of being CRIMINALS through no fault of their own except by their CRIMINAL parents.

Given Trump's character (or lack thereof) I think you analysis is much more likely, but I can see the benefit of trying to force Congress to come up with a lasting fix.  Not that I have any confidence in Congress to come up with a good fix, no matter which party is in control.

Thing is, the DACA was supposed to be the first step in establishing a "Pathway to Citizenship", but that has fallen out of favor with the Creepy Ass Crackers.

[Tonitrus]

That looks staged.

[Monoriu]

I didn't know what this dreamer fuss is about.  But I read Obama's message and I am convinced that he is right. 

[CountDeMoney]

Going to be funny as balls watching a shitload of educated taxpayers getting deported to countries they don't even remember from childhood, let alone even speak the fucking language. 



Not funny ha-ha.  Funny sad.

[Monoriu]

This just doesn't work.  I am all for enforcement of laws, but it just isn't fair to flip flop on something like this.  Either you are consistent and say from day 1 that illegal immigrants are not accepted.  In this case you don't tax them, don't allow them to open bank accounts, don't let them work etc. 

Or if you accept their taxes, let them work, educate them etc, then there is more than tacit agreement that you allow them to stay.  In which case you, well, let them stay.  What's with taking their taxes for years and decades and then saying you shouldn't be here in the first place?  That's inconsistent, unfair and unworkable. 

[CountDeMoney]

It's completely consistent, fair and workable, Mono.  Race-based policies always are.  That's all this is really about in the end anyway.

[The Minsky Moment]

It's also worth keeping in mind that law enforcement resources are not unlimited.  The policy corollary to DACA was dedicating resources to targeting illegals with criminal records.  Trumps admin has already fallen behind in terms of deportation rates.  If you divert or dilute resources to chase the huge DACA population, that means nabbing and processing  fewer  illegals with criminal offenses.

[CountDeMoney]

If you divert or dilute resources to chase the huge DACA population, that means nabbing and processing  fewer  illegals with criminal offenses.

Yeah, but the DACAs will be the easiest fish in the barrel, what with tell-tale giveaways like home addresses on tax returns.  And cops will always go for the easiest lockups.