What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Valmy

According to the Polls somewhere between 40 and 54 percent approve of him, which is a hilariously wide range.

Nonetheless the downward trajectory is clear.

We will see if it is ultimately enough. I still think we ultimately need an economic collapse to save the Republic, which is a grim place to be.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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Caliga

Quote from: Valmy on April 24, 2025, 07:16:04 AMWe will see if it is ultimately enough. I still think we ultimately need an economic collapse to save the Republic, which is a grim place to be.
:hmm: I feel like the more common outcome to an economic collapse is a further embrace of totalitarianism, though?
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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2025, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 24, 2025, 07:16:04 AMWe will see if it is ultimately enough. I still think we ultimately need an economic collapse to save the Republic, which is a grim place to be.
:hmm: I feel like the more common outcome to an economic collapse is a further embrace of totalitarianism, though?

As I said, a grim place to be.

But the ONLY thing anybody in this vile disgusting country seems to care about is how it impacts them personally. We can be throwing innocent people in gulags all day but unless it impacts anybody personally, they don't care.

I don't see any way out.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Jacob

Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2025, 12:15:16 PM:hmm: I feel like the more common outcome to an economic collapse is a further embrace of totalitarianism, though?

Yeah, but not always. The US did not, I don't think become totalitarian in response to the Great Depression.

But yeah, I think there'd need to be some sort of non-totalitarian proposal with popular appeal for how to respond to the the (potential) economic collapse. I'm not sure how well something like that has been articulated yet.

That said, if the totalitarian idea gets blamed for the economic collapse, it may discredit it (though maybe it'll be replaced with a different totalitarian idea).

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Quote from: Valmy on April 24, 2025, 07:16:04 AMAccording to the Polls somewhere between 40 and 54 percent approve of him, which is a hilariously wide range.

Nonetheless the downward trajectory is clear.

We will see if it is ultimately enough. I still think we ultimately need an economic collapse to save the Republic, which is a grim place to be.
Reuters - Trump on the economy
37% to 57%
https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3lnlnzupsjs26

Pew - approval
40% to 59%
https://x.com/PollTracker2024/status/1915075796407906675
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HVC

Quote from: viper37 on April 25, 2025, 08:35:32 AMChina cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments 

More winning.

Trump will just tax the liberal middle class to bribe... er subsidize the farmers. Everything's fine.
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Valmy

Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2025, 08:45:05 AM
Quote from: viper37 on April 25, 2025, 08:35:32 AMChina cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments 

More winning.

Trump will just tax the liberal middle class to bribe... er subsidize the farmers. Everything's fine.

He won't even do that. He will just borrow the money, why his policies raise bond yields.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: HVC on April 25, 2025, 08:45:05 AM
Quote from: viper37 on April 25, 2025, 08:35:32 AMChina cancels 12,000 metric tons of US pork shipments 

More winning.

Trump will just tax the liberal middle class to bribe... er subsidize the farmers. Everything's fine.

I think that he can easily find the money by ending federal support for school lunch and Head Start programs in blue states.  Kids can't vote or buy his grift anyway.
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Valmy

https://time.com/7280114/donald-trump-2025-interview-transcript/

Quote from: Trump in Time MagazineYour trade adviser, Peter Navarro, says 90 deals in 90 days is possible. We're now 13 days into the point from when you lifted the reciprocal, the discounted reciprocal tariffs. There's zero deals so far. Why is that?

No, there's many deals.

When are they going to be announced?

You have to understand, I'm dealing with all the companies, very friendly countries. We're meeting with China. We're doing fine with everybody. But ultimately, I've made all the deals.

Not one has been announced yet. When are you going to announce them?

I've made 200 deals.

You've made 200 deals?

100%.

Can you share with whom?

Because the deal is a deal that I choose. View it differently: We are a department store, and we set the price. I meet with the companies, and then I set a fair price, what I consider to be a fair price, and they can pay it, or they don't have to pay it. They don't have to do business with the United States, but I set a tariff on countries. Some have been horrible to us. Some have been okay. Nobody's been great. Nobody's been great. Everybody took advantage of us. What I'm doing is I will, at a certain point in the not too distant future, I will set a fair price of tariffs for different countries. These are countries—some of them have made hundreds of billions of dollars, and some of them have made just a lot of money. Very few of them have made nothing because the United States was being ripped off by every, almost every country in the world, in the entire world. So I will set a price, and when I set the price, and I will set it fairly according to the statistics, and according to everything else. For instance, do they have the VAT system in play? Do they charge us tariffs? How much are they charging us? How much have they been charging us? Many, many different factors, right. How are we being treated by that country? And then I will set a tariff. Are we paying for their military? You know, as an example, we have Korea. We pay billions of dollars for the military. Japan, billions for those and others. But that, I'm going to keep us a separate item, the paying of the military. Germany, we have 50,000 soldiers—



I just want to kill myself. I hate this bullshit so much. And people just let him get away with it.

QuoteYou said you would end the war in Ukraine on Day One.

Well, I said that figuratively, and I said that as an exaggeration, because to make a point, and you know, it gets, of course, by the fake news [unintelligible]. Obviously, people know that when I said that, it was said in jest, but it was also said that it will be ended.

What the fuck? That is absolutely not how that was communicated. And your proxies were all over the place saying how you were going to bring peace and stability almost immediately.  :bleeding:  :bleeding:

Oh and the FBI arrested a judge for the crime of ruling against the regime.



This fucking goddamn trash country. I hate it so much. A bloated corpse of worms.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on April 25, 2025, 11:00:37 AMSo we are arresting judges now?

There is only one law in this country, whatever dear leader wants, and this judge got in the way.

But maybe if she buys one of those dinners with dear leader she can get out of it.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Syt

In other news of openly shitting on rule of law.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-pardon-michele-fiore-nevada-fraud-cf56ef8b302b8111e47cf52d5a606d19

QuoteTrump pardons Nevada politician who paid for cosmetic surgery with funds to honor a slain officer

LAS VEGAS (AP) — President Donald Trump has pardoned a Nevada Republican politician who was awaiting sentencing on federal charges that she used money meant for a statue honoring a slain police officer for personal costs, including plastic surgery.

Michele Fiore, a former Las Vegas city councilwoman and state lawmaker who ran unsuccessfully in 2022 for state treasurer, was found guilty in October of six counts of federal wire fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. She was out of custody ahead of her sentencing, which had been scheduled for next month.

In a lengthy statement Thursday on Facebook, the loyal Trump supporter expressed gratitude to the president while also accusing the U.S. government and "select media outlets" of a broad, decade-long conspiracy to "target and dismantle" her life.

The White House confirmed Fiore had been pardoned but did not comment on the president's decision.

The pardon, issued Wednesday, comes less than a week after Fiore lost a bid for a new trial. She had been facing the possibility of decades in prison.

Federal prosecutors said at trial that Fiore, 54, had raised more than $70,000 for the statue of a Las Vegas police officer who was fatally shot in 2014 in the line of duty, but had instead spent some of it on cosmetic surgery, rent and her daughter's wedding.

"Michele Fiore used a tragedy to line her pockets," federal prosecutor Dahoud Askar said.

FBI agents in 2021 subpoenaed records and searched Fiore's home in Las Vegas in connection with her campaign spending.

In a statement, Nevada Democratic Party Executive Director Hilary Barrett called the pardon "reckless" and a "slap in the face" to law enforcement officers.

Fiore, who does not have a law degree, was appointed as a judge in deep-red Nye County in 2022 shortly after she lost her campaign for state treasurer.

She was elected last June to complete the unexpired term of a judge who died but had been suspended without pay amid her legal troubles. Pahrump is an hour's drive west of Las Vegas.

In her statement Thursday, Fiore also said she plans to return to the bench next week.

Nye County said it is awaiting an update on Fiore's current suspension from the state Commission on Judicial Discipline, which told The Associated Press in an email that it was aware that Fiore had been pardoned but that it didn't have further comment on her situation.

AP also sent an email seeking comment from Fiore's lawyer.

Fiore served in the state Legislature from 2012 to 2016. She was a Las Vegas councilwoman from 2017 to 2022.

While serving as a state lawmaker, Fiore gained national attention for her support of rancher Cliven Bundy and his family during armed standoffs between militiamen and federal law enforcement officers in Bunkerville, Nevada, in 2014 and Malheur, Oregon, in 2016.
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Jacob

The play is pretty clear, I think. Throw out the rule of law and subvert the machinery of justice to serve the oligarchy.