Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Razgovory]

This is a bit of a digression, but when did the Irish get the vote?

Universal manhood suffrage was only passed in 1918.  For women 10 years after that.

[Valmy]

This is a bit of a digression, but when did the Irish get the vote?

Universal manhood suffrage was only passed in 1918.  For women 10 years after that.

Yeah but that had to do with property requirements and applied to all men, not just the Irish. The Home Rule League managed to win all the Constituencies outside of Northern Ireland during its run.

[mongers]

Well that certainly puts a different spin on the Easter Uprising.  I had always just assumed the Micks were apartheided.

No,  I was only referring to post 1923 events, I assumed you were talking about the Irish voting in UK parliamentary elections because the original wiki item I posted included that phenomenon.

[Valmy]

Well that certainly puts a different spin on the Easter Uprising.  I had always just assumed the Micks were apartheided.

No,  I was only referring to post 1923 events, I assumed you were talking about the Irish voting in UK parliamentary elections because the original wiki item I posted included that phenomenon.

He was asking about the 1885 thing. He thought the Irish had no representation or rights in the UK.

[crazy canuck]

Well that certainly puts a different spin on the Easter Uprising.  I had always just assumed the Micks were apartheided.

No,  I was only referring to post 1923 events, I assumed you were talking about the Irish voting in UK parliamentary elections because the original wiki item I posted included that phenomenon.

He was asking about the 1885 thing. He thought the Irish had no representation or rights in the UK.

Yeah, Yi just fundamentally misunderstood the home rule movement.

[Richard Hakluyt]

The Irish sent a block of about 80 or 90 Home Rule MPs to Westminster in those days. But Westminster was still dominated by English MPs due to England's share of the total population. This demographic dominance has been detrimental to setting up a system fair to the various component countries. England has about 80% of the archipelago's population.

[The Brain]

Didn't Home Rule play a part in the Fyre debacle?

[Maladict]

I think there is one major flaw in May's proposal of three votes above. I fully expect the HoC to reject all three: against her deal, against no deal and against extension. It would not be the first time that they just reject all available realistic possibilities and pretend there is a fictional better option.

Yeah, this. They should have one vote with only those three options.

[Barrister]

I think there is one major flaw in May's proposal of three votes above. I fully expect the HoC to reject all three: against her deal, against no deal and against extension. It would not be the first time that they just reject all available realistic possibilities and pretend there is a fictional better option.

Yeah, this. They should have one vote with only those three options.

Same problem - what if none of them get a majority?

[Maladict]

I think there is one major flaw in May's proposal of three votes above. I fully expect the HoC to reject all three: against her deal, against no deal and against extension. It would not be the first time that they just reject all available realistic possibilities and pretend there is a fictional better option.

Yeah, this. They should have one vote with only those three options.

Same problem - what if none of them get a majority?

Second round vote between the two best scoring options, immediately after the first one.

[Zoupa]

Didn't Home Rule play a part in the Fyre debacle?

Ja.

[ulmont]

It's been almost 3 fucking years - how can you not figure any of this shit out?

The UK government is due to hold emergency talks with industry leaders on Tuesday after discovering that the country doesn't have the right pallets to continue exporting goods to the European Union if it leaves without a deal next month.
...
The Department for Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs last week told business leaders that the UK would not have enough EU-approved pallets for exporting to the continent if it leaves without a withdrawal agreement next month.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-michael-gove-ministers-to-hold-emergency-meeting-over-no-deal-chaos-2019-2

[Valmy]

It is all part of muddling through.

[The Brain]

Brexit is now unpalletable.

[Tamas]