Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Sheilbh]

Terribly sorry if I've asked this before, but can you give me the breakdown in the UK of Muslim South Asians and Hindus?

Not sure - census results will be out in the next year or so.

Last estimate by the ONS was that 8-9% of the population are British Asian - British Indians and Pakistanis both make up about a third each of that (British Indians a little bit bigger). Hindus are probably around 2-3% of the population and Muslims probably around 6-7%.

[Admiral Yi]

Obrigado

[Admiral Yi]

Tangentially, don't you have enough Chinese now that you should reconsider your bizarre and improper use of Asian to mean exclusively South Asian?

[Sheilbh]

Tangentially, don't you have enough Chinese now that you should reconsider your bizarre and improper use of Asian to mean exclusively South Asian?

It's not exclusively South Asian. British Asian on the census includes British Chinese.

It's more association I think - so in the UK "Asian" would bring to mind South Asian while in the US I think it's more associated with Chinese and East Asian.

[Admiral Yi]

It's not exclusively South Asian. British Asian on the census includes British Chinese.

It's more association I think - so in the UK "Asian" would bring to mind South Asian while in the US I think it's more associated with Chinese and East Asian.

I will refrain from calling codswallop out of respect, but that does not match up with my experience here on Languish.  Every time a Brit has used the term he has been referring exclusively to South Asians.

[HVC]

Obrigado

[OttoVonBismarck]

That's because the British are fucking stupid, Yi.

On that note, I saw this article today:

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/10/uk-economy-disaster-degrowth-brexit/671847/

[Tonitrus]

I wonder if we're going down the same dark road, except perhaps replacing the UK and Finance, but with the service sector.

Every time I hear some commentator say "we don't need industry/production because services is the fastest-growing economic sector" I want to smash them with a sabot.

[Sheilbh]

I will refrain from calling codswallop out of respect, but that does not match up with my experience here on Languish.  Every time a Brit has used the term he has been referring exclusively to South Asians.

Fair but I think that goes both ways and is based on who is the larger/earlier group. For example this from The Daily Show - which to British ears feels a little bit/uncomfortable:
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1584923487319121920?s=20&t=tISaUddVcfROBkrQQGLsMg

Brits use it as shorthand for the sub-continent but it also does and can include East and South-East Asia; Americans use it as shorthand for East and South-East Asia.

[Josquius]

I blame America for making oriental old hat.

[mongers]

I blame America for making oriental old hat.

It was purely occidental on their part.

[PDH]

Is he still Prime Minister?  This is boring.

[Tamas]

Is he still Prime Minister?  This is boring.

 

[Sheilbh]

On the one year anniversary of the Owen Paterson suspension too

[Sheilbh]

Via Hugo Gye - the reason Sunak was, by some distance the best option, and the opportunity he has (albeit from a very difficult position):


In particular worth noting how much more popular Sunak is than the Tories - and how close he is to Starmer - as my understanding is until you're in an election campaign, leadership ratings are more predictive than party polling numbers: