Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

The Larch

Not strictly Brexit related, but Brexit Party related.

QuoteBrexit party MEPs vote against plans to tackle Russian propaganda
Resolution seeking upgrade of EU counter-disinformation unit nevertheless passes easily


Nigel Farage and the Brexit party have voted against stronger EU measures aimed at countering "highly dangerous" Russian disinformation.

The party's MEPs cast their votes against a European parliament resolution calling for an upgrade of the EU's anti-propaganda unit East StratCom, as well as support for public service media.

The text passed comfortably with the support of the largest political groups in the European parliament – the centre-right European People's party, Socialists, Liberals and Greens.

Josquius

So apparently things took a turn for the better yesterday. Its been reported that Johnson and Vardaker had a promising meeting. The pound made substantial gains.
I'm skeptical however. I fear Johnson merely charmed Leo.
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Tamas

Quote from: Tyr on October 11, 2019, 04:13:41 AM
So apparently things took a turn for the better yesterday. Its been reported that Johnson and Vardaker had a promising meeting. The pound made substantial gains.
I'm skeptical however. I fear Johnson merely charmed Leo.

There was one sentence in the joint statement "pathway to deal visible" and the fact that negotiations resume today. It has sent the British press into a flurry of unlimited optimism.

It is a sad sight.

Sheilbh

In fairness Varadkar's press conference was more upbeat. Talking about a slip between cup and lip etc.
Let's bomb Russia!

Tamas

Quote from: Sheilbh on October 11, 2019, 04:37:41 AM
In fairness Varadkar's press conference was more upbeat. Talking about a slip between cup and lip etc.

Yeah, it's definitely better than resignation to no deal, but the only possible step forward is if Johnson has folded to the original EU idea of the NI-only backstop.


Which would be pretty great, but then he has to push it through Parliament. The only way I see that POSSIBLY happening, is if he tied it to a second referendum of two options, his deal or remain. Otherwise, the opposition will not vote to save his ass, and in case of the LiDems to destroy their own identity they are just managing to rebuild.

Unfortunately, Corbyn has been saying that he wants an election first, than do a deal himself and then a referendum.

In other words, the deadlock will not be broken even if Johnson succumbs to reality.

The Brain

Does the UK know that we're already in October?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Liep

Watching the opening of the British parliament, it seems if they scrapped all the ceremonial bits they would save money equivalent to their EU bill. Brexit solved.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

The Larch

Quote from: Liep on October 14, 2019, 05:29:18 AM
Watching the opening of the British parliament, it seems if they scrapped all the ceremonial bits they would save money equivalent to their EU bill. Brexit solved.

Removing anachronistic bullshit pageantry with no real purpose from politics is completely un-British.  :bowler:

Liep

This is hilarious.
"Af alle latterlige Ting forekommer det mig at være det allerlatterligste at have travlt" - Kierkegaard

"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Agelastus

Her Majesty sounded ill. :(

I fear this Christmas may be her last.
"Come grow old with me
The Best is yet to be
The last of life for which the first was made."

Josquius

Quote from: Agelastus on October 14, 2019, 06:36:10 AM
Her Majesty sounded ill. :(

I fear this Christmas may be her last.

Wouldn't that be something, her death coinciding with the death of the UK.
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Maladict

Quote from: Tyr on October 14, 2019, 07:10:27 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 14, 2019, 06:36:10 AM
Her Majesty sounded ill. :(

I fear this Christmas may be her last.

Wouldn't that be something, her death coinciding with the death of the UK.

Frankie Boyle did a bit on a similar scenario a while ago iirc. The government keeping her alive until they needed a royal funeral to distract attention from a huge crisis.


The Brain

Quote from: Maladict on October 14, 2019, 07:27:09 AM
Quote from: Tyr on October 14, 2019, 07:10:27 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on October 14, 2019, 06:36:10 AM
Her Majesty sounded ill. :(

I fear this Christmas may be her last.

Wouldn't that be something, her death coinciding with the death of the UK.

Frankie Boyle did a bit on a similar scenario a while ago iirc. The government keeping her alive until they needed a royal funeral to distract attention from a huge crisis.

Kagemusha?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

The Minsky Moment

I don't see the problem, surely nothing bad ever happened to Britain when the monarch was named Charles?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Habbaku

Charles will raise his standard at Nottingham any day now, sweep this wretched Parliament aside, and assert his command of the situation.  :bowler:
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

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