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Sheilbh

Quote from: Tamas on April 09, 2020, 10:56:28 AM
I have never worked a year in my life where I did not receive a raise. Sure, at one time it was a meager 1%, but still.
Same since I've worked for salaries (not hourly rates). Not sure they've always been above inflation though <_<
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Iormlund

I don't really consider <2% to be raises. That's just merely keeping up with inflation, if that.

My first serious employer did yearly raises. But in general employers wait until you tell them you are jumping ship to give you a raise. Fuckwits.

Josquius

Well I feel left out. The only possible raise I've had is when I was a teenager and moved to a higher minimum wage band.
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The Brain

In Sweden yearly raise is the norm.
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Habbaku

Quote from: Tyr on April 09, 2020, 01:36:19 PM
Well I feel left out. The only possible raise I've had is when I was a teenager and moved to a higher minimum wage band.

You should definitely begin negotiating for a raise every year, from now on. If your company doesn't offer a cost-of-living raise by default, at the minimum it's worth asking for that around your anniversary.

I am happy to link some reading material on strategies around this. Worst case scenario is that you make exactly what you did before being told no.
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PDH

At UC I get (well, maybe not this year) annual raises a bit over 3% - not a ton but handy to at least swim a bit over present inflation.

At UWyo I got 3 raises in 12 years (I stayed there because of the teaching).
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Sheilbh

I have never had to actually negotiate a raise and just always get sort of relatively standard ones that I think applied across company.

I am alarmed at the prospect of having to negotiate. It goes against sort of British instincts: confrontation and talking about money :o :ph34r:
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Habbaku

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2020, 01:47:32 PM
I am alarmed at the prospect of having to negotiate. It goes against sort of British instincts: confrontation and talking about money :o :ph34r:

:lol: Negotiating is definitely not easy and not for everyone, but the unfortunate reality is that in many places not negotiating means you get screwed over by the employer.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

The Brain

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 09, 2020, 01:47:32 PM
I have never had to actually negotiate a raise and just always get sort of relatively standard ones that I think applied across company.

I am alarmed at the prospect of having to negotiate. It goes against sort of British instincts: confrontation and talking about money :o :ph34r:

If you don't like money then don't negotiate. :)
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Josquius

Yeah... I think this negotiating a raise stuff is specific to certain company cultures. I've not heard of it happening anywhere I've worked except in exceptional circumstances like key people thinking of quitting.
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MadImmortalMan

Negotiating for yourself is always the way to go. People who are overly cooperative, agreeable or shy don't do it enough. Probably hurts women more.
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Habbaku

Quote from: Tyr on April 09, 2020, 02:04:42 PM
Yeah... I think this negotiating a raise stuff is specific to certain company cultures. I've not heard of it happening anywhere I've worked except in exceptional circumstances like key people thinking of quitting.

Sounds like a great deal for the company's owners.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

The Brain

Quote from: Tyr on April 09, 2020, 02:04:42 PM
Yeah... I think this negotiating a raise stuff is specific to certain company cultures. I've not heard of it happening anywhere I've worked except in exceptional circumstances like key people thinking of quitting.

As long as you yourself don't think you should get a raise don't be surprised if other people don't think it.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Habbaku on April 09, 2020, 11:03:33 AM
Good on you, GF. :cheers:

I doubt I'd quit on the spot, but I'd take 1% and go apply to as many places as possible and probably start really dragging my feet at work.

I wouldn't do it now or the past 8-9 years but back at 24/25. I had nothing to lose, really. I mellowed alot since too.  :lol:
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Tyr on April 09, 2020, 02:04:42 PM
Yeah... I think this negotiating a raise stuff is specific to certain company cultures. I've not heard of it happening anywhere I've worked except in exceptional circumstances like key people thinking of quitting.
I know people who do it - I think it's relatively standard in your review/when you get told about a pay rise.

As I say the main issue for us is our culture not company culture I think  :Embarrass:
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