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Quo Vadis, Democrats?

Started by Syt, November 13, 2024, 01:00:21 PM

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Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2025, 02:39:09 PMCan Harris be considered a Democratic leader or is she just a failed candidate trying to make some book sales at this point

You use the words
"Democratic leader"
"Failed candidate"
"Trying to make some book sales"

as though they are somehow alternative options, when really they are just different ways of saying the same thing.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 19, 2025, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2025, 02:39:09 PMCan Harris be considered a Democratic leader or is she just a failed candidate trying to make some book sales at this point

You use the words
"Democratic leader"
"Failed candidate"
"Trying to make some book sales"

as though they are somehow alternative options, when really they are just different ways of saying the same thing.

 :lol:
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Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2025, 02:39:09 PMCan Harris be considered a Democratic leader or is she just a failed candidate trying to make some book sales at this point

I think she would have a been a solid lock for governor of CA (it would not necessarily have been a good re-launch for POTUS, and anything over one term might age her out)...but if she decided to start laying the groundwork for another POTUS run, I think she is off to a horrendous start.

QuoteTrying to set up president Walz?

He did come off very well in the campaign.

Strong disagree...I like the man, but he doesn't have "it".  He is good where he is a governor, possibly future a Dem cabinet or other position.

garbon

Quote from: Tonitrus on September 19, 2025, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 19, 2025, 02:39:09 PMCan Harris be considered a Democratic leader or is she just a failed candidate trying to make some book sales at this point

I think she would have a been a solid lock for governor of CA (it would not necessarily have been a good re-launch for POTUS, and anything over one term might age her out)...but if she decided to start laying the groundwork for another POTUS run, I think she is off to a horrendous start.

QuoteTrying to set up president Walz?

He did come off very well in the campaign.

Strong disagree...I like the man, but he doesn't have "it".  He is good where he is a governor, possibly future a Dem cabinet or other position.

Why? He's an old, straight, cisgender white man. Sounds perfect for America.
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The lack of opposition leadership or even consistent speaking out by Harris, Biden, Clinton, Obama, and Gore (I legit looked to see if he was still alive) have been brutal. It's like they served their time and are more than happy to see the situation they helped create consume the nation and world with as little pushback as possible. Senate and House leadership are equally bankrupt in their approaches and dedication. It honestly infuriates me how meekly they are going into the night.  :glare:
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