Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Josquius]

i don't see the problem with the loans. The buyer is offered a deal, take it or leave it. We bought one using a personal car lease, probably not the most financially efficient method but very quick and convenient. I won't be applying for compensation.

Is it not like the PPI mortgage stuff where they were misold?
You're given a deal and it is your choice to accept or not only really applies where people who understood finances and were given a clear and honest picture of the reality.

But what is that core concept that people hate and does it bear any relation to what DEI actually is?

In the US at least, the DEI that people profess to hate is usually some strawman whipped up by podcasters and cable news hosts.  No suprise then that the new administration has purged the very words themselves from various agencies as if the word "equity" or the letters D, E, I when combined contain some sinister kabbalistic power.

Basically.
There's this big idea that it's especially hard to be a white man and that if you're a minority you can be as terrible as you like and you somehow get life handed to you on a plate.

A lot of it could be American Internet nonsense spill over, and kneejerk over reaction when you do get scholarships for black kids and that sort of thing, but there's quite the lack of recognition that lots of these policies to give people from less represented groups a shot apply whatever their colour

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DEI is not a label. It is a specific set of policies that have been adopted by governments and the private sector throughout the world.

If you were going to defend it, you should probably know what it is.

Policies which further Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.  To know what those specific policies are, you will need to look them up for whatever organization you are interested in.  There are a lot of variations amongst those policies.

These two go against each other.

[Tamas]

I think it's very clear where influential people want the British public to pivot to from Labour. We are at the stage where Sky News is broadcasting Reform's live feed from Reform's own studio as Farage "interviews" one of his people.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-appearances-sky-news-35664340

[Tamas]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/04/met-arrest-woman-after-facebook-posts-about-her-ex-partner-a-serving-officer


Don't post bad things about police officers in Hungary. Sorry, I mean in the UK.

[Josquius]

I think it's very clear where influential people want the British public to pivot to from Labour. We are at the stage where Sky News is broadcasting Reform's live feed from Reform's own studio as Farage "interviews" one of his people.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-appearances-sky-news-35664340

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Yep.
Long been clear to me they've huge establishment backing but the way Gary put it on the rest is politics adds a good bit of explanation to it.
The far right are going to do all sorts of nasty shit... But they'll leave the money alone. So if change must come, which it must, then that's what they want.

I finally got around to watching that incidentally.
I've ran into Garys economics before and he broadly seems right, though a bit overly sensationalist.
Also Alistair Campbell had a comment which was pretty spot on about him. He thinks too much of his background making him special. It helps a bit. But not as much as he thinks. Lots of labour MPs have poor backgrounds too.
Garys comment about how great he is and better than anyone else because he got good grades at school really rubbed me the wrong way.

[Sheilbh]

Looking at the Best for Britain statement I think it's nonsense and missing the really important story.

But that's to be expected. It is a left-wing pressure group statement and campaign into (short) left-wing tabloid story.

[Tamas]

Yeah this Gary character does rub me the wrong way in some respects, with lots of conman vibes, but I am finding myself accepting his arguments.