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India - Pakistan Conflict 2025

Started by Jacob, April 23, 2025, 01:08:18 PM

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Jacob

India is reacting strongly to the recent attacks in Kashmir, apparently blaming Pakistan. They're reportedly pausing the Indus Water Cooperation  treaty, closing the Attari-Wagah border crossing, closing the border to Pakistani nationals, and expelling embassy staff.

How far will this escalate?

How will it interplay with all the other geo-politial excitement we're seeing these days?

Zanza

India has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

Valmy

Quote from: Zanza on April 24, 2025, 06:11:07 AMIndia has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

Jesus Christ. That seems like quite an escalation. Or does India and Pakistan do this kind of thing regularly?
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PRC

Quote from: Valmy on April 24, 2025, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 24, 2025, 06:11:07 AMIndia has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

Jesus Christ. That seems like quite an escalation. Or does India and Pakistan do this kind of thing regularly?

How many people are we talking about here?  Because of the massive size of each country's populations I had initially thought it must be an incredibly high number of people, but now I wonder if it's not!?  Maybe in the thousands?

HVC

People were worried about America falling apart as a green light for China to start messing around, but everyone always forgets about India. Once again I blame the Beatles.
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Valmy

Quote from: HVC on April 24, 2025, 05:38:18 PMOnce again I blame the Beatles.

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Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

DGuller

I was just recently listening to Lex Fridman podcast with Modi.  For most of the conversation Modi was sounding infinitely wise, which almost any politically savvy leader is capable of doing when having a long conversation with a soft-ball throwing dilettante.  However, when it came to Pakistan, he couldn't hide his disdain for the country, the dignified wise man mask slipped.

viper37

Quote from: Valmy on April 24, 2025, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 24, 2025, 06:11:07 AMIndia has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

Jesus Christ. That seems like quite an escalation. Or does India and Pakistan do this kind of thing regularly?
Expulsion, I don't know.  Shooting at each other, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_wars_and_conflicts
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Gups

Quote from: Zanza on April 24, 2025, 06:11:07 AMIndia has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

I've not seen this mentioned in any of the reports I've read. Do you have a link?

I have read that both countries have expelled some (maybe all - unclear) diplomats, that India has ordered all of its citizens to return from Pakistan and that Pakistan has withdrawn all visas for Indians and closed the border.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Valmy on April 24, 2025, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 24, 2025, 06:11:07 AMIndia has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

Jesus Christ. That seems like quite an escalation. Or does India and Pakistan do this kind of thing regularly?
The water agreement has never been suspended, not even during full blown wars. It's incredibly esclatory.
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Zanza

Quote from: Gups on April 25, 2025, 04:18:18 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 24, 2025, 06:11:07 AMIndia has expelled all Pakistanis and they have to leave by next Tuesday.

I've not seen this mentioned in any of the reports I've read. Do you have a link?

I have read that both countries have expelled some (maybe all - unclear) diplomats, that India has ordered all of its citizens to return from Pakistan and that Pakistan has withdrawn all visas for Indians and closed the border.
I read it on German news. Here is an Indian source:

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/expel-pakistanis-amit-shah-directs-states-after-india-revoke-visas-2715048-2025-04-25

Josquius

 
Quote from: HVC on April 24, 2025, 05:38:18 PMPeople were worried about America falling apart as a green light for China to start messing around, but everyone always forgets about India. Once again I blame the Beatles.

China is the interesting wild card in this I'd say. They are increasingly close with Pakistan and this could really push the two closer.
They have some claims on India but I'd imagine this is a distraction they could do without at the moment whilst their focus is on the sea.
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