Massacre at historic African American Church in Charleston

[Valmy]

I don't think either group was very successful at co-opting them though.

[Valmy]

Get 'em to fight! A Nazi Washington-Commie Lincoln cage match!

Washington would win easily. Since they were both so tall I would prefer one-on-one basketball.

[derspiess]

I don't think either group was very successful at co-opting them though.

I guess I should have said "tried".

[Malthus]

I love the giant, glowing George Washington.

Personally, I think there is a lot of milage to be had out of a fifty foot, radioactive, Nazi Washington. 

Unfortunately that glorious moment of giant George Washington worshiping was interrupted by angry Jews rushing the stage. Geez. Lighten up Yitzhak.

A glowing Washington that can't drive off a pack of pesky Jews with lasers shooting from his eyes simply isn't worth worshipping. 

[crazy canuck]

Get 'em to fight! A Nazi Washington-Commie Lincoln cage match!

Washington would win easily. Since they were both so tall I would prefer one-on-one basketball.

Wasn't Washington a modest 6'1 or 2?  Barely a point guard.  Now that Lincoln guy was at least a small forward.

[Valmy]

Huh you're right. For some reason I thought he was like 6'5".

[crazy canuck]

Huh you're right. For some reason I thought he was like 6'5".

Easy mistake to make. Languish has taught me his is normally portrayed as a 50' glow in the dark superhero

[derspiess]

He's a giant in our memories 

[Razgovory]

So the Nazis co-opted Washington and Commies co-opted Lincoln.  Odd how that worked out.

Washington makes a poor Nazi hero, considering how much he respected the Jews.

[derspiess]

So the Nazis co-opted Washington and Commies co-opted Lincoln.  Odd how that worked out.

Washington makes a poor Nazi hero, considering how much he respected the Jews.

And Lincoln was very pro-business, which a far left prof of mine used to angrily admit.

[crazy canuck]

So the Nazis co-opted Washington and Commies co-opted Lincoln.  Odd how that worked out.

Washington makes a poor Nazi hero, considering how much he respected the Jews.

And Lincoln was very pro-business, which a far left prof of mine used to angrily admit.

Is there a far left in the US?

[jimmy olsen]

I'm glad my redneck Florida sister is chiming in on the debate:

She doea know it was a "battle" flag doesn't she? Helping to kill people was it's purpose.

[Eddie Teach]

Anyone got a shirt with Che waving a Confederate flag?

[Razgovory]

So the Nazis co-opted Washington and Commies co-opted Lincoln.  Odd how that worked out.

Washington makes a poor Nazi hero, considering how much he respected the Jews.

And Lincoln was very pro-business, which a far left prof of mine used to angrily admit.

The right has difficult time with Lincoln's enemies referring to themselves as conservative.  Clement Vallandigham hardly makes a good role model for conservatives.  Well, maybe Rand Paul.

[alfred russel]

Reflecting on the changes in the confederate flag use over the past couple decades, I think a major change was 9/11. Before that the flag was very common. It was also very common to denigrate "yankees". My father used to tell me that the worst insult growing up was to be called a yankee, which used to bother him because he was born in Illinois (my grandparents were there during WWII while my grandfather was being trained in the Navy) and he thought the other school kids could detect that somehow and he really was a yankee.

I remember hearing the radio on 9/11 and the radio hosts telling listeners that they understood lots of listeners would prefer their taxes going to Richmond, but that this was not the time to trash new york or raise the confederate flag. And all that did stop. The confederate flag went away and the american flag was everywhere. Eventually the american flags went back to their normal level, but the confederate flags never came back and neither did the "yankee" bashing. But when you lose the disdain for the north, it is hard to really see the flag in the same way.

Some of that could also be because I live in a city with lots of northern transplants.