Obama to fire gay military officer. Martinus pops vein.

Started by MadImmortalMan, May 08, 2009, 02:56:07 PM

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garbon

I'm going to guess you just posted that mess of crazy for kicks...and thus it isn't worthy of response. :D
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garbon

Actually, I'll respond. Is hide in the closet till your 30s really something to teach children?
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Martinus

Quote from: garbon on May 12, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
Actually, I'll respond. Is hide in the closet till your 30s really something to teach children?
Well, I am not saying that I would actively seek to have gay children, but if some kids out there are to be gay, it's better than they have a gay parent. That way they can at least grow up in the family environment which accepts their sexuality (even if the outside world is less tolerant). :)

Also, I never said I'd be a good role model, personally. :P

Berkut

Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 12, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
Actually, I'll respond. Is hide in the closet till your 30s really something to teach children?
Well, I am not saying that I would actively seek to have gay children, but if some kids out there are to be gay, it's better than they have a gay parent. That way they can at least grow up in the family environment which accepts their sexuality (even if the outside world is less tolerant). :)

So they cannot grow up in a family environment that accepts their sexuality unless their parents are gay?

Stereotype much?
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Berkut

Quote from: garbon on May 12, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
I'm going to guess you just posted that mess of crazy for kicks...and thus it isn't worthy of response. :D

I think he is afraid if he doesn't post something like that regularly, someone else may steal his title of Most Bigoted Languish Poster.
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Martinus

Quote from: Berkut on May 12, 2009, 03:01:20 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 12, 2009, 02:57:46 PM
Actually, I'll respond. Is hide in the closet till your 30s really something to teach children?
Well, I am not saying that I would actively seek to have gay children, but if some kids out there are to be gay, it's better than they have a gay parent. That way they can at least grow up in the family environment which accepts their sexuality (even if the outside world is less tolerant). :)

So they cannot grow up in a family environment that accepts their sexuality unless their parents are gay?

Stereotype much?
They can. But I would assume that kids in a gay household would have a contact with the concept of same sex sexuality earlier than kids in the household of even the most accepting straight couple. I mean, even if your parents are accepting and tolerant, you still have a lot of angst associated with growing up as a gay kid, because you are not like them etc.

Martinus

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Quote from: Berkut on May 12, 2009, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 12, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
I'm going to guess you just posted that mess of crazy for kicks...and thus it isn't worthy of response. :D

I think he is afraid if he doesn't post something like that regularly, someone else may steal his title of Most Bigoted Languish Poster.
What's so bigoted in my response? I am not saying straight parents can't raise happy gay children. I am saying that all other things being equal, probably a gay kid would find himself slightly less conflicted when raised by a gay couple than by a straight couple.

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MadImmortalMan

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Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
Wow, Reagan actually said that? My opinion of him just improved a lot. No wonder Jack Kemp considered him a puppet of the gay lobby.  :lol:

It's from a piece he wrote in opposition to the Briggs Initiative (prop 6). It would have barred gays from being able to have jobs as schoolteachers. Harvey Milk and a bunch of Log Cabin types asked him to help defeat it, and they say his intervention was the deciding factor. So yeah. Kudos to him.


Edit: Wasn't it in the recent movie about Milk? I didn't see it.
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Martinus

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 12, 2009, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
Wow, Reagan actually said that? My opinion of him just improved a lot. No wonder Jack Kemp considered him a puppet of the gay lobby.  :lol:

It's from a piece he wrote in opposition to the Briggs Initiative (prop 6). It would have barred gays from being able to have jobs as schoolteachers. Harvey Milk and a bunch of Log Cabin types asked him to help defeat it, and they say his intervention was the deciding factor. So yeah. Kudos to him.
Yeah, I saw the movie. Didn't know Reagan actually did that.

Edit: And no, there was no mention of Reagan, as far as I remember.

garbon

Quote from: Berkut on May 12, 2009, 03:02:13 PM
I think he is afraid if he doesn't post something like that regularly, someone else may steal his title of Most Bigoted Languish Poster.

:)
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on May 12, 2009, 03:10:31 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 12, 2009, 03:02:13 PM
I think he is afraid if he doesn't post something like that regularly, someone else may steal his title of Most Bigoted Languish Poster.

:)
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