Obama to fire gay military officer. Martinus pops vein.

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Faeelin

#300
May 13, 2009, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 13, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 13, 2009, 03:02:43 PM
He claims to know shit about truth and honesty and he effectively lied for years instead of quitting the service?

So he is taking a stand on principle, and your bitch is that he didn't do it sooner?
Frankly, he's a disagrace to the country. He knows that we are vitally short on Arabic translators. Yet he chooses to bring to light something which he knows will get him kicked out, forced to take a cushy job in the private sector instead of defending our nation against its enemies.

For what? Because he thinks the policy's unjust?  What a pompous ass.

garbon

#301
May 13, 2009, 06:23:57 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on May 13, 2009, 04:48:31 PM
Frankly, he's a disagrace to the country. He knows that we are vitally short on Arabic translators. Yet he chooses to bring to light something which he knows will get him kicked out, forced to take a cushy job in the private sector instead of defending our nation against its enemies.

For what? Because he thinks the policy's unjust?  What a pompous ass.

Just an explanation of Brain's post? :unsure:
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grumbler

#302
May 13, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 13, 2009, 03:02:43 PM
He claims to know shit about truth and honesty and he effectively lied for years instead of quitting the service?
Sorry, how did he "effectively lie?"  By following the "don't tell" part of the policy?

I must admit that it would be hard for anyone to "know shit about truth and honesty" and sit still for a policy that effectively disposes with both as inconvenient, nut I find it hard to understand how anyone could not see how that would grate on a truthful and honest person over time.

It grates on me, and I am not even gay, nor any longer in the military.  DADT is politics at its most ugly and its most detrimental to good order and discipline.  If I were a commander in chief, I would not tolerate it for one second.  Better the open bigotry of a "gays expelled the moment detected" than this pansy-assed pretense that the US military can simultaneously not survive having a single gay member and not survive kicking them out.
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grumbler

#303
May 13, 2009, 08:11:26 PM Last Edit: May 13, 2009, 09:32:43 PM by grumbler
Quote from: Faeelin on May 13, 2009, 04:48:31 PM
Frankly, he's a disagrace to the country. He knows that we are vitally short on Arabic translators. Yet he chooses to bring to light something which he knows will get him kicked out, forced to take a cushy job in the private sector instead of defending our nation against its enemies.
Frankly, his country is a disgrace to his service.  It doesn't deserve him.

QuoteFor what? Because he thinks the policy's unjust?  What a pompous ass.
Yes, fighting perceived unjustice is the mark of a pompous ass.  But supporting injustice is the mark of a pompous asshole.
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DontSayBanana

#304
May 13, 2009, 08:22:41 PM
Quote from: grumbler on May 13, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
Sorry, how did he "effectively lie?"  By following the "don't tell" part of the policy?

I must admit that it would be hard for anyone to "know shit about truth and honesty" and sit still for a policy that effectively disposes with both as inconvenient, nut I find it hard to understand how anyone could not see how that would grate on a truthful and honest person over time.

It grates on me, and I am not even gay, nor any longer in the military.  DADT is politics at its most ugly and its most detrimental to good order and discipline.  If I were a commander in chief, I would not tolerate it for one second.  Better the open bigotry of a "gays expelled the moment detected" than this pansy-assed pretense that the US military can simultaneously not survive having a single gay member and not survive kicking them out.

:cheers: Our servicemen deserve better behavior and treatment on our parts, precisely because they do not/cannot ask for it themselves.
Experience bij!

grumbler

#305
May 13, 2009, 09:37:40 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 13, 2009, 08:22:41 PM
:cheers: Our servicemen deserve better behavior and treatment on our parts, precisely because they do not/cannot ask for it themselves.
That's a very good way to put it. :cheers:
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Neil

#306
May 13, 2009, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: grumbler on May 13, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
Frankly, his country is a disgrace to his service.  It doesn't deserve him.
Fuck him.  He's a traitor.

Of course, you love siding with America's enemies, so you'll defend this piece of shit with your dying breath.
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The Brain

#307
May 14, 2009, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 13, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 13, 2009, 03:02:43 PM
He claims to know shit about truth and honesty and he effectively lied for years instead of quitting the service?

So he is taking a stand on principle, and your bitch is that he didn't do it sooner?

No. My "bitch" is that he comes across as a retarded moron.
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derspiess

#308
May 14, 2009, 02:12:07 PM Last Edit: May 14, 2009, 02:13:43 PM by derspiess
Patton would know the correct way to deal with this pansy.

Btw, as I type this, I'm riding in my brother's car in Smokey Mountain National Forest, using my EVDO phone tethered to my netbook.  Technology is teh kool.
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Valmy

#309
May 14, 2009, 02:19:19 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 14, 2009, 02:12:07 PM
Patton would know the correct way to deal with this pansy.

Invite him over to his tent for the night?  :boff:
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Caliga

#310
May 15, 2009, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 14, 2009, 02:12:07 PM
Btw, as I type this, I'm riding in my brother's car in Smokey Mountain National Forest
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grumbler

#312
May 17, 2009, 05:43:38 AM
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Berkut

#313
May 17, 2009, 01:52:53 PM
Stewart is awesome.
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