Obama to fire gay military officer. Martinus pops vein.

Started by MadImmortalMan, May 08, 2009, 02:56:07 PM

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Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 11, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
*Except for Marty of course. He gives Phelps a run for his money.

Fortunately as Marty will never leave Poland Gay Marriage in the US can never benefit him. :yeah:
Wtf. Why do you hate me?  <_<

Razgovory

Quote from: Martinus on May 11, 2009, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 11, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
*Except for Marty of course. He gives Phelps a run for his money.

Fortunately as Marty will never leave Poland Gay Marriage in the US can never benefit him. :yeah:
Wtf. Why do you hate me?  <_<

Maybe you should ask why anyone likes you.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2009, 03:24:19 PM
Oh yes you do.  Why else would you want to make their lives more difficult for an arbitrary reason?  Because you love them so much you want to fuck with them?  Unless you are against same-sex marriage but want to compromise with some sort of Civil Union.

I don't dislike or like gays as a group.  I try to judge each person individually.  I like some people who happen to be gay; I dislike others who happen to be gay.  But I don't feel the need to prove that to you, Berkut, or anyone here.

Did I decide to oppose civil unions in 2004 to spite the radicals?  Yeah.

Could I possibly support civil unions sometime in the future if the activists become less annoying?  Perhaps.

QuoteSorta.  I was mildly in favor of civil unions (or could have at least been talked into supporting them) until the more radical elements annoyed me.

Quote
Ok I missed this.  Ok if you don't dislike gay people so much why are you using the fact they annoy you as your entire justification for opposing Civil Unions?   :huh:

See above.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 09, 2009, 05:32:17 PM
I wish someone would tell me what to post in this thread.

You're not supposed to ask, and we're not supposed to tell.  that's the whole point.
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Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on May 11, 2009, 03:39:17 PM
Wtf. Why do you hate me?  <_<

I don't :hug:.  I am only participating in the anti-Marty Languish meme.
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Siege

Quote from: Valmy on May 08, 2009, 02:59:19 PM
Damn it!  What are the chances so many gays know Arabic?

A lot. Most fags from muslim countries have to emigrate.



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Siege

My main civic argument against gay marriage is one of example.

If we have gay couples, then our children will be expoused to them.
And gayness will become accepted in society.
I don't have children but if I did, I wouldn't want them to be gay.
This would be the end of the world for me.

I have no problem with gays being gay, as long as they keep it private.
Or at least out of line-of-sight from the children.



"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Siege on May 11, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
My main civic argument against gay marriage is one of example.

If we have gay couples, then our children will be expoused to them.
And gayness will become accepted in society.
I don't have children but if I did, I wouldn't want them to be gay.
This would be the end of the world for me.

I have no problem with gays being gay, as long as they keep it private.
Or at least out of line-of-sight from the children.

Dumb.

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Faeelin

If we have gay couples, then our children will be expoused to them.
And gayness will become accepted in society.
I don't have children but if I did, I wouldn't want them to be gay.
This would be the end of the world for me.
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And if your child ended up gay, would you prefer a world where he is stigmatized and knows that his father ultimately thinks he's a wicked person?

garbon

Quote from: Siege on May 11, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
I don't have children but if I did, I wouldn't want them to be gay.
This would be the end of the world for me.

Does anyone want to have gay kids? :unsure:

Anyway, don't go to any major city in the West. I hear gays flaunt their sexuality in public. :o
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This is so mean. Is this the CHANGE that he's talking about during his campaign? Well, it's not for the better.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: Berkut on May 11, 2009, 02:58:32 PM
And yes..."ask". They have not staged a coup or done anything that I am aware of is illegal. It has been approached in a similar manner than all these kinds of social liberty/equality have been approached.

I guess we have different definitions of asking, then.  I don't view circumventing the law, then suing to try & get your way as "asking".

Our entire system of law is designed to permit and even encourage precisely that.  The federal Constitution is the supreme law of the land and any enactment in derogation of it is ultra vires.  Anyone adversely affected by an unconstitutional enactment can and should challenge it - and sometimes the best (or even only) way to get the requisite standing is to break it and then sue.
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AnchorClanker

Quote from: Syt on May 08, 2009, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 08, 2009, 03:04:08 PM
Spanky knows Arabic. :ph34r:

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

AND he's in the NAVY.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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viper37

Quote from: Siege on May 11, 2009, 07:29:16 PM
My main civic argument against gay marriage is one of example.

If we have gay couples, then our children will be expoused to them.
And gayness will become accepted in society.
I don't have children but if I did, I wouldn't want them to be gay.
This would be the end of the world for me.

I have no problem with gays being gay, as long as they keep it private.
Or at least out of line-of-sight from the children.
with so many gays and bi around here, it's a wonder you haven't turned gay yet!
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