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Started by Eddie Teach, March 06, 2011, 09:29:27 AM

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Eddie Teach

The 100,000 year time table was pretty ridiculous. Even assuming Adama managed to snuff out all high tech knowledge among the survivors, at the very least people would start planting crops.


Lost was ok. The mysteries were a bust but the character dramas were still more compelling than most shows.
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garbon

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 10, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
The 100,000 year time table was pretty ridiculous. Even assuming Adama managed to snuff out all high tech knowledge among the survivors, at the very least people would start planting crops.

Presumably they mostly just starved to death, what with most of them not being equipped for pastoral life.
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Josquius

That does seem logical given the fire the ships into the sun crap.
I'd like to pretend though that something bad happened hundreds of years later that destroyed their civilization.
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The Brain

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 09, 2013, 05:06:51 PM
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Quote from: The Brain on September 09, 2013, 04:31:31 PM
Started watching Band of Brothers. Schwimmer, nooooo!!! :(

:lol:

That was my first reaction when I first saw the show.  But keeping watching it gets much better.
Maybe the Brain actually feels bad for Schwimmer's character?  :hmm:

:yes: :(
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garbon

Quote from: Tyr on September 10, 2013, 01:12:11 AM
That does seem logical given the fire the ships into the sun crap.
I'd like to pretend though that something bad happened hundreds of years later that destroyed their civilization.

Maybe the remaining humanoid cylons (unless we are to believe all of Cavil's forces were on the colony - which clearly they were not as there weren't the remaining base ships about) attacked later. Or the centurion ones attacked. :D
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Viking

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 10, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
The 100,000 year time table was pretty ridiculous. Even assuming Adama managed to snuff out all high tech knowledge among the survivors, at the very least people would start planting crops.


Lost was ok. The mysteries were a bust but the character dramas were still more compelling than most shows.

meh, immediately after adama gets rid of tech, Toba happens.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 01:05:09 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 10, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
The 100,000 year time table was pretty ridiculous. Even assuming Adama managed to snuff out all high tech knowledge among the survivors, at the very least people would start planting crops.

Presumably they mostly just starved to death, what with most of them not being equipped for pastoral life.
It's about the characters!
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dps

Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 12:46:28 AM
Finished re-watching Battlestar Galactica. Ending was still dreadful. I think one of the biggest issues was that the 2nd half of the final episode (I guess Daybreak Pt III) was entirely superfluous.  When your series finale wraps up with multiple jumps to events taking place before the start of the series (the characters lives when Zak Adama was alive and when Roslin slept with one of her former students), you know you are in for trouble.

Perhaps similar to how Lost ended without satisfactorily explaining most of the mysteries in the series, though I don't know as I gave up on Lost early on. :D

That's a problem with shows that have overall story arcs--they almost never wrap things up in a reasonably satisfactory manner.  Only exceptions I can think of offhand are Babylon 5 and The Fugitive.  Well, maybe The Prisoner--you can't really say the finale explained everything, but given the surreal nature of the show, that was appropriate IMO.

Syt

Quote from: dps on September 10, 2013, 07:23:59 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 12:46:28 AM
Finished re-watching Battlestar Galactica. Ending was still dreadful. I think one of the biggest issues was that the 2nd half of the final episode (I guess Daybreak Pt III) was entirely superfluous.  When your series finale wraps up with multiple jumps to events taking place before the start of the series (the characters lives when Zak Adama was alive and when Roslin slept with one of her former students), you know you are in for trouble.

Perhaps similar to how Lost ended without satisfactorily explaining most of the mysteries in the series, though I don't know as I gave up on Lost early on. :D

That's a problem with shows that have overall story arcs--they almost never wrap things up in a reasonably satisfactory manner.  Only exceptions I can think of offhand are Babylon 5 and The Fugitive.  Well, maybe The Prisoner--you can't really say the finale explained everything, but given the surreal nature of the show, that was appropriate IMO.

DS9, too. Well, if you can buy into Sisko's "Ascension".
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Viking

Quote from: dps on September 10, 2013, 07:23:59 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 12:46:28 AM
Finished re-watching Battlestar Galactica. Ending was still dreadful. I think one of the biggest issues was that the 2nd half of the final episode (I guess Daybreak Pt III) was entirely superfluous.  When your series finale wraps up with multiple jumps to events taking place before the start of the series (the characters lives when Zak Adama was alive and when Roslin slept with one of her former students), you know you are in for trouble.

Perhaps similar to how Lost ended without satisfactorily explaining most of the mysteries in the series, though I don't know as I gave up on Lost early on. :D

That's a problem with shows that have overall story arcs--they almost never wrap things up in a reasonably satisfactory manner.  Only exceptions I can think of offhand are Babylon 5 and The Fugitive.  Well, maybe The Prisoner--you can't really say the finale explained everything, but given the surreal nature of the show, that was appropriate IMO.

Even B5 went through the omg we're cancelled rush during season 4 so they finished off the story arc and then they got a season 5 and they stretched the entire good-by episode into a full season. They also compressed the remainder of the final season into a single episode at the end of season 4. All in all it made for a fast paced action packed season 4 and then a drawn out rather boring season 5 with a touching final episode in which all the groundwork had been properly laid.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

frunk

I thought the second half of season 5 picked up a bit particularly with the G'Kar/Mollari storyline, but the first half was dreadful.

Syt

Quote from: frunk on September 10, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
I thought the second half of season 5 picked up a bit particularly with the G'Kar/Mollari storyline, but the first half was dreadful.

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We are born dying, but we are compelled to fancy our chances.
- hbomberguy

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Viking

Quote from: frunk on September 10, 2013, 10:52:45 AM
I thought the second half of season 5 picked up a bit particularly with the G'Kar/Mollari storyline, but the first half was dreadful.

JMS was probably thinking, hey with no plot to advance, why not make use of these two fantastic actors and the fantastic characters he created for them.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Ideologue

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Quote from: Syt on September 10, 2013, 07:38:27 AM
Quote from: dps on September 10, 2013, 07:23:59 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 10, 2013, 12:46:28 AM
Finished re-watching Battlestar Galactica. Ending was still dreadful. I think one of the biggest issues was that the 2nd half of the final episode (I guess Daybreak Pt III) was entirely superfluous.  When your series finale wraps up with multiple jumps to events taking place before the start of the series (the characters lives when Zak Adama was alive and when Roslin slept with one of her former students), you know you are in for trouble.

Perhaps similar to how Lost ended without satisfactorily explaining most of the mysteries in the series, though I don't know as I gave up on Lost early on. :D

That's a problem with shows that have overall story arcs--they almost never wrap things up in a reasonably satisfactory manner.  Only exceptions I can think of offhand are Babylon 5 and The Fugitive.  Well, maybe The Prisoner--you can't really say the finale explained everything, but given the surreal nature of the show, that was appropriate IMO.

DS9, too. Well, if you can buy into Sisko's "Ascension".

I've never understood why they didn't tie the Sisko/Dukat/Pagh Wraiths/control over the wormhole crap in with the end of Dominion War (it's like they forgot that the only reason the Allies were winning, other than biowar--it works!--was because the Dominion was relying solely on Alpha Quadrant resources and if the Dominion proper reestablished a bridgehead into the quadrant it was all over in a few weeks).

Then again, given how goofy that storyline wound up being, it's nice to be able to turn off "What You Leave Behind" halfway through.

Breaking Bad, I assume, will wind up having a pretty satisfying ending.

To Money:

[spoiler]Recalling that Pinkman's cooks are about as good as Walt's, here's a wild guess: the best way out for Walt once the Panzerarmee showed up is to sell Pinkman into meth slavery to Lydia.  The M60 and ricin stuff?  That's Walt on his way to get Jesse back.  It's the old redemption arc.  Realizing how he's harmed his own family--because Hank's dead as an MRF--he'll come back around to being a quasi-good dude. :hmm: [/spoiler]
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Queequeg

That's......pretty convincing, Ide.
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