[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Jacob]

An Canada occupied by the US with Quebec independent would certainly put in the hands in of people like Grey Fox or Viper or Zoupa.  Those people might find that holding the whip suits them quite well.  Who would they then use it on?

I think you are comically misinformed about Quebec, and insultingly mistaken about the nature of Grey Fox, Viper, and Zoupa.

[Zoupa]

In this scenario of an independant Qc and the rest of Canada annexed by the US, why exactly would I, GF or viper turn fascist? 

[Razgovory]

An Canada occupied by the US with Quebec independent would certainly put in the hands in of people like Grey Fox or Viper or Zoupa.  Those people might find that holding the whip suits them quite well.  Who would they then use it on?

I think you are comically misinformed about Quebec, and insultingly mistaken about the nature of Grey Fox, Viper, and Zoupa.

Nationalists are Nationalists.

[Razgovory]

You have these weird fantasies of oppression.  Fantasies of being sent to camps, of being the righteous resistance.  When fascism comes it won't the majority being oppressed.  The whip will be in your hand.

Grey Fox is not part of the majority in Canada, much less in the US.

Americans may think that the Quebecois will just blend in as "generic anglophone white" over time and join the fascist oppressors. Canadian history suggests that may not be the case.

He is in the majority for people in Quebec.  Quebec has already had one fascist government, and Francophones were not thrown in camps then.  As noted above, and why I brought this up again, Scots often talk about their status as a colonized people, something that obscures the major role of Scottish people in the British empire.  As Oex pointed out Francophone Canadians have not come to terms with their role in imperialism in Canada.  I think the same dynamic is play.  The claims of victimhood to create the appearance of righteousness and obscure participation in oppression of others.

An Canada occupied by the US with Quebec independent would certainly put in the hands in of people like Grey Fox or Viper or Zoupa.  Those people might find that holding the whip suits them quite well.  Who would they then use it on?

Yeah, who?

Who did you guys use it on last time?

[Grey Fox]

You have these weird fantasies of oppression.  Fantasies of being sent to camps, of being the righteous resistance.  When fascism comes it won't the majority being oppressed.  The whip will be in your hand.

Grey Fox is not part of the majority in Canada, much less in the US.

Americans may think that the Quebecois will just blend in as "generic anglophone white" over time and join the fascist oppressors. Canadian history suggests that may not be the case.

He is in the majority for people in Quebec.  Quebec has already had one fascist government, and Francophones were not thrown in camps then.  As noted above, and why I brought this up again, Scots often talk about their status as a colonized people, something that obscures the major role of Scottish people in the British empire.  As Oex pointed out Francophone Canadians have not come to terms with their role in imperialism in Canada.  I think the same dynamic is play.  The claims of victimhood to create the appearance of righteousness and obscure participation in oppression of others.

An Canada occupied by the US with Quebec independent would certainly put in the hands in of people like Grey Fox or Viper or Zoupa.  Those people might find that holding the whip suits them quite well.  Who would they then use it on?

Yeah, who?

Who did you guys use it on last time?

No. There has been no time in history where the people of Québec have been entirely in charge of their destiny.

[Razgovory]

Irrelevant.  The people of Quebec had no problem oppressing others through their elected representatives.  The problem is, I've heard all this sort of rhetoric from the American Right for decades.  They also had claimed to be persecuted and that they would be thrown into camps.

[Jacob]

You're the one from the country with government thugs executing people in the street.

It's a bit rich to castigate other people for what you imagine they'd do one day, when your people is actually doing it right now.