[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Razgovory]

I think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.

There is certainly status in certain circles in portraying yourself as oppressed and colonized.  It is also a weakness for multicultural states.  Trump's people already making a big deal of about the oppressed status of the native Greenlanders.  A crafty American conquer of Canada would certainly play up plight of First Nations in Canada and perhaps offer independence to Quebec.  How many people in Le Belle Province would tolerate an occupied Canada in the service of a liberated Quebec?

[Valmy]

I think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.

There is certainly status in certain circles in portraying yourself as oppressed and colonized.  It is also a weakness for multicultural states.  Trump's people already making a big deal of about the oppressed status of the native Greenlanders.  A crafty American conquer of Canada would certainly play up plight of First Nations in Canada and perhaps offer independence to Quebec.  How many people in Le Belle Province would tolerate an occupied Canada in the service of a liberated Quebec?

I don't know but they didn't go along with it in 1776 

But there is nothing new about this. Both Imperial Germany and Napoleon made a big show of liberating the oppressed nations of the Russian Empire when they were at war with Russia. Likewise the Central Powers also called on a worldwide jihad against the British during WW1 to weaken their empire.

[viper37]

it's just not really part of the culture here

And yes, we often blame other countries when they have weird cultural quirks 

[Grey Fox]

I think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.

There is certainly status in certain circles in portraying yourself as oppressed and colonized.  It is also a weakness for multicultural states.  Trump's people already making a big deal of about the oppressed status of the native Greenlanders.  A crafty American conquer of Canada would certainly play up plight of First Nations in Canada and perhaps offer independence to Quebec.  How many people in Le Belle Province would tolerate an occupied Canada in the service of a liberated Quebec?

It's a good question but our ancestors didn't trust the Americans. I don't see any reasons to trust Americans now. Most of us are the wrong kind of white while about 20%  are different shades of brown.

[viper37]

I think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.

There is certainly status in certain circles in portraying yourself as oppressed and colonized.  It is also a weakness for multicultural states.  Trump's people already making a big deal of about the oppressed status of the native Greenlanders.  A crafty American conquer of Canada would certainly play up plight of First Nations in Canada and perhaps offer independence to Quebec.  How many people in Le Belle Province would tolerate an occupied Canada in the service of a liberated Quebec?

I don't know but they didn't go along with it in 1776 

But there is nothing new about this. Both Imperial Germany and Napoleon made a big show of liberating the oppressed nations of the Russian Empire when they were at war with Russia. Likewise the Central Powers also called on a worldwide jihad against the British during WW1 to weaken their empire.

Yeah, but Trump's offer would be the biggest of all time, like the world had never seen before.  No one would have seen such a big offer before.  Even Obama or Sleepy Joe would have never made such big offer, delivered by big hands.  George Washington himself never made such a big offer to Canadians in 1776.  If he had, we'd be part of a big beautiful nation, united under a big beautiful flag and a big beautiful tax bill.  So sad!

[crazy canuck]

There is no denying the positive effects of learning a new language but there are lots of things that are good for us that people choose not to do - diet and exercise probably being of greater benefit than learning a second language. 

I am not sure that answers the question I asked Zoupa.

Many people also choose not to invest for retirement, choose to buy a bigger vehicle than they need, a much bigger house/appartment than they need, spend more than they should on restaurants, attend a gym instead of just running on the streets, then complain bitch on social networks about how the government is queezing the poor millionaire poeple with high income tax.

You ask about the utility of doing something, not about individual choices.  I gave an answer.

There could be more.

No, I didn't ask about utility.  People who are not multilingual were characterized as being "zero effort"
People.  I am not sure why the derision is needed, so I asked.

[Razgovory]

I think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.

There is certainly status in certain circles in portraying yourself as oppressed and colonized.  It is also a weakness for multicultural states.  Trump's people already making a big deal of about the oppressed status of the native Greenlanders.  A crafty American conquer of Canada would certainly play up plight of First Nations in Canada and perhaps offer independence to Quebec.  How many people in Le Belle Province would tolerate an occupied Canada in the service of a liberated Quebec?

It's a good question but our ancestors didn't trust the Americans. I don't see any reasons to trust Americans now. Most of us are the wrong kind of white while about 20%  are different shades of brown.

You have these weird fantasies of oppression.  Fantasies of being sent to camps, of being the righteous resistance.  When fascism comes it won't the majority being oppressed.  The whip will be in your hand.

[Jacob]

You have these weird fantasies of oppression.  Fantasies of being sent to camps, of being the righteous resistance.  When fascism comes it won't the majority being oppressed.  The whip will be in your hand.

Grey Fox is not part of the majority in Canada, much less in the US.

Americans may think that the Quebecois will just blend in as "generic anglophone white" over time and join the fascist oppressors. Canadian history suggests that may not be the case.