Israel-Hamas War 2023

[crazy canuck]

Although WW1s aftermath created a lot of strife in my part of the world, I will give you that ww2 is a more apt example of total war by nations/ethnicities against each other)

Croatia isn't considered a core territory by Serbians so they gave up the way colonisers gave up their colonies or Russia the Warsaw pact states. It does not disprove my point.

You were too young to remember when Yugoslavia was a nation.  It may be that young Serbs do not view Croatia as a core part of greater Serbia, but that has not always been the case.  In fact, they did actually fight a war over this issue. 

And you have not yet addressed the Czechoslovakian example.

You might just want to back down from your claim that there has been no resolution absent starving another patient citizens to death.

I was born in 1980 mate, I remember people being worried due to the Serbian atrempts to draw Hungary into their war.

There was never Czech-Slovak emnity past squabbling, I am not even sure what I am supposed to comment there. I am sorry, try finding out what's the average Slovakian view of Czechs vs Hungarians, you have clearly no lived experience of how these ethnic hostilities work.

I don't know how high Croatia is on the Serbian reconquest list but I am petty sure it's below Kosovo and Bosnia. Serbs let them go before militairly they had no choice. Let the Serbs get back those two other countries and see the two coexist peacefully sharing a border with Croatia and then you will have one counterpoint against the ones I raised.

But on the other hand if you think Croatia and (lol) Czechoslovakia are viable examples for Israel to follow to manage the conflict with the Palestinians, please do share what you consider lessons learned. Because I can't see the resemblance, let alone the shared road to a solution.

You are the one who claimed there was no evidence to the contrary.

When presented with evidence to the contrary you refuse to back down from your claim that civilians must suffer.

[Norgy]

Europe is such a great place to look for peaceful co-existence. 

[Tamas]

I have not been presented evidence to the contrary.

[Bauer]

Israel has lost its soul in this war.  Those 4/5 year old kids at the 3 min mark 

[Grey Fox]

Hamas' attack was a success in the end.

[Razgovory]

I'm seeing quite a bit right-wing shifting over to CC-Zoupa-viper-Josq axis:  From a local Republican politician:  


I support America first. Israel is committing genocide, and our dual citizenship politicians are bleeding us dry to support their wars and genocide.
Everyone is afraid to speak up. Trump is ruled by AIPAC as well, duh.
It does not take rocket science to figure out who is truly calling the shots.



Looks like you guys are winning!

[crazy canuck]

Hamas' attack was a success in the end.

Only because the Israelis made it so.

[HVC]

Hamas' attack was a success in the end.

In no small part with an assist from the IDF

[Razgovory]

The Israelis should have asked he Canadians to disarm Hamas, 

[HVC]

The Israelis should have asked he Canadians to disarm Hamas, 

How's the good fight against the evil white liberals going? Make any leeway?

[Zoupa]

I'm seeing quite a bit right-wing shifting over to CC-Zoupa-viper-Josq axis:  From a local Republican politician: 


I support America first. Israel is committing genocide, and our dual citizenship politicians are bleeding us dry to support their wars and genocide.
Everyone is afraid to speak up. Trump is ruled by AIPAC as well, duh.
It does not take rocket science to figure out who is truly calling the shots.



Looks like you guys are winning!

Over 60 civilians killed at a food distribution center today by the IDF's "warning shots".

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm seeing quite a bit right-wing shifting over to CC-Zoupa-viper-Josq axis:  From a local Republican politician: 


I support America first. Israel is committing genocide, and our dual citizenship politicians are bleeding us dry to support their wars and genocide.
Everyone is afraid to speak up. Trump is ruled by AIPAC as well, duh.
It does not take rocket science to figure out who is truly calling the shots.

Yes, we've also known that there are Nazis on the right.

Yes, Trump and MAGA have emboldened the Nazis on the American right to "tell it like it is"  , "every damn time" etc.

Yes, the Nazi wing of MAGA is becoming increasingly aggressive in jockeying for influence against the evangelicals who support Israel unconditionally because they need the Jews to trigger Armageddon and their own annihilation to pave the way the second coming of Christ.

And yes, Nazis now like Nazis always will fake some support for the cause of other less inferior Semites when it comes to Jew bashing.

But that has nothing to do with the  CC-Zoupa-viper-Josq axis:   That axis stands for the principal of universal human rights, which the fascists reject.

[Razgovory]

I'm seeing quite a bit right-wing shifting over to CC-Zoupa-viper-Josq axis:  From a local Republican politician: 


I support America first. Israel is committing genocide, and our dual citizenship politicians are bleeding us dry to support their wars and genocide.
Everyone is afraid to speak up. Trump is ruled by AIPAC as well, duh.
It does not take rocket science to figure out who is truly calling the shots.

Yes, we've also known that there are Nazis on the right.

Yes, Trump and MAGA have emboldened the Nazis on the American right to "tell it like it is"  , "every damn time" etc.

Yes, the Nazi wing of MAGA is becoming increasingly aggressive in jockeying for influence against the evangelicals who support Israel unconditionally because they need the Jews to trigger Armageddon and their own annihilation to pave the way the second coming of Christ.

And yes, Nazis now like Nazis always will fake some support for the cause of other less inferior Semites when it comes to Jew bashing.

But that has nothing to do with the  CC-Zoupa-viper-Josq axis:  That axis stands for the principal of universal human rights, which the fascists reject.

The Islamists also reject the principal of human universal rights, they also need Jews to be destroyed for the end times to come, but they've long since found a comfy place in the Axis.  Antizionism accepts all sorts of allies.

And in truth, the "Nazi" rhetoric is not any different than the typical left-wing rhetoric I see all the time.

[Razgovory]

The Israelis should have asked he Canadians to disarm Hamas, 

How's the good fight against the evil white liberals going? Make any leeway?

Well, all the fascists appear to be joining one side, so that's something I suppose.

It shouldn't be that surprising I suppose.  

[Josquius]

That couldn't be more wrong.
Though it is an interesting idea to link it to musks silly thing about not moving right but the left has moved left.
Many people haven't shifted in their views on Israel alone, Israel shifted and put a rational balanced position suddenly on their strongly critical side.

They certainly wouldn't like Palestinian prisoners working on Israeli farms for years, like German prisoners did in Britain.

Soldiers and civilians are different things.

Though actually I'm more than fine with Palestinian employment in Israel. This will be a key part of any moves towards peace.