[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[crazy canuck]

And on the topic of internal party strife, I heard an analyst claim yesterday that about a third of the federal conservative party is supportive of much of what Trump says, including the notion that Canada should seriously consider being annexed. That roughly corresponds to polls indicating  about 10% of the total Canadian population supports the notion.

This election is going to be all about who best protect Canada from the United States.  The Conservatives are going to be fighting with one hand behind their back because they can't come out and be fully in opposition to Trump without alienating a portion of their base.

As BB put it, PP has to play footsie with the fascists within his party.  It's going to be interesting to see how the Conservatives navigate that issue.

[crazy canuck]

Viper, what is happening to the BC Conservatives? Something similar to the GOP, except the leader is weak. 

Not encouraging...

No it's not, you have to remember this is a party started by a guy kicked out of the BC Liberal party by a person who is himself in the right wing of the coalition, because of public statements that climate change is a hoax and vaccines cause autism.

It is not surprising the new party is essentially a provincial wing of the People's party.  Also not surprising they are not a cohesive group.  The only reason they did well in the election is because the current NDP government is deeply unpopular, and importantly, they were they only option remaining after the BC Liberals/BC United withdrew from the election.

[mongers]

And on the topic of internal party strife, I heard an analyst claim yesterday that about a third of the federal conservative party is supportive of much of what Trump says, including the notion that Canada should seriously consider being annexed. That roughly corresponds to polls indicating  about 10% of the total Canadian population supports the notion.

This election is going to be all about who best protect Canada from the United States.  The Conservatives are going to be fighting with one hand behind their back because they can't come out and be fully in opposition to Trump without alienating a portion of their base.

As BB put it, PP has to play footsie with the fascists within his party.  It's going to be interesting to see how the Conservatives navigate that issue.

They are proto-quislings, for the good of country and party they should be expelled.

Alternatively, those are Canadians' future joint overlords under the trumpist golf-shoe of annexation.

[crazy canuck]

This is where BB's comment that he is OK with Conservatives playing Footsie with fascists so long as they beat the Liberals comes into better focus.

While, only a third of the federal conservative party supports the Trump agenda, the other 2/3 are OK to play along with them so long as they gain power.

My point to BB all along is that line of thinking is repulsive to Canadians and will be the main reason the Conservatives lose the next election (hopefully)

[Valmy]

Currently to be countered with: at least I'm not an unelected ketamine abusing oligarch

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America continues to inspire the free world.

[mongers]

This is where BB's comment that he is OK with Conservatives playing Footsie with fascists so long as they beat the Liberals comes into better focus.

While, only a third of the federal conservative party supports the Trump agenda, the other 2/3 are OK to play along with them so long as they gain power.

My point to BB all along is that line of thinking is repulsive to Canadians and will be the main reason the Conservatives lose the next election (hopefully)

Yes I can see that, not disimilar to Militant within the UK labour party in the early 80s. Do the conservatives have a 'Kinnock' leader within their ranks to take the lead?

[crazy canuck]

This is where BB's comment that he is OK with Conservatives playing Footsie with fascists so long as they beat the Liberals comes into better focus.

While, only a third of the federal conservative party supports the Trump agenda, the other 2/3 are OK to play along with them so long as they gain power.

My point to BB all along is that line of thinking is repulsive to Canadians and will be the main reason the Conservatives lose the next election (hopefully)

Yes I can see that, not disimilar to Militant within the UK labour party in the early 80s. Do the conservatives have a 'Kinnock' leader within their ranks to take the lead?

Yes; and

Likely no

[Neil]

I heard an analyst claim yesterday that about a third of the federal conservative party is supportive of much of what Trump says, including the notion that Canada should seriously consider being annexed.

I'd be surprised if it was that much, as most of those people tend to gravitate towards the PPC.  That said, I know that there are a few single-issue voters on things like firearms who are really into the Second Amendment. 

Overall, I'm not too worried about it.  Most of it, I chalk up to people getting stupid in their overreactions to a decade of Liberal rule. 

[crazy canuck]

I heard an analyst claim yesterday that about a third of the federal conservative party is supportive of much of what Trump says, including the notion that Canada should seriously consider being annexed.

I'd be surprised if it was that much, as most of those people tend to gravitate towards the PPC.  That said, I know that there are a few single-issue voters on things like firearms who are really into the Second Amendment. 

Overall, I'm not too worried about it.  Most of it, I chalk up to people getting stupid in their overreactions to a decade of Liberal rule. 

Yeah, I think that is a tad high. I agree that most if not all of the People's Party membership will be part of that 10%, but they are polling at what 1-2% nationally. 

[Jacob]

The bc conservatives are still defining themselves so let's see in 4 years.  The whole bc liberal name change turned into folding was a bizarre sequence.

The NDP having a more realistic costed platform in the last election was certainly not what I expect...

This is your first post in about ~15 years

[HVC]

Any othe provinces doing individual tariffs, or just ontario? I know a lot of provinces removed US liquor.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Currently to be countered with: at least I'm not an unelected ketamine abusing globalist oligarch

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America continues to inspire the free world.

improved it some more since that kind of money knows no borders.

[Josephus]

Any othe provinces doing individual tariffs, or just ontario? I know a lot of provinces removed US liquor.

Looks like Ford is holding off his electricity tariff after meeting with the Secretary of Trade

[crazy canuck]

Any othe provinces doing individual tariffs, or just ontario? I know a lot of provinces removed US liquor.

Looks like Ford is holding off his electricity tariff after meeting with the Secretary of Trade

Yeah, looks like Ford is going to get the result he wanted.  It's good old fashioned school yard survival - when faced with a bully, punch them has hard as you can where it hurts most, and watch them wilt.  All bullies are cowards.

[Grey Fox]

How? What I'm seeing is that Ford found a bigger bully and blinked first.