What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Sophie Scholl]

Between all of the stuff during Trump's term with the Secret Service, especially on January 6th, and now this, it appears sweeping reforms and changes need to come to it and soon.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

I do hope out of this the SS gets reformed including receiving a new name which is
1:more accurate to their job.
2:doesn't involve talking about The SS. It's too SSy

(https://youtu.be/anjbOuMiGXY?si=B33Vu-P5u94I-G9K)

If Trump wins that abbreviation might become more appropriate.

[HVC]

Trump has gone woke and is defending his female secret service agent

[viper37]

Politics Giuliani must turn over Manhattan apartment, other valuables to election workers he defamed, judge says

Ten months after a jury awarded two Georgia election workers nearly $150 million in a defamation lawsuit brought against Rudy Giuliani, a federal judge ruled Tuesday that the former attorney to Donald Trump must fork over his luxurious New York apartment and other valuables.

Giuliani, who rose to fame in the 1980s and 1990s as a federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, has seven days to turn over his possessions to a receivership controlled by Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Giuliani spread conspiracy theories targeting the ballot counters after Trump lost the 2020 election.
Giuliani has previously tried to sell the apartment for about $6 million.

In his 24-page order, Judge Lewis Liman also ruled that Freeman and Moss should be the beneficiaries of some $2 million that Giuliani has said Trump's 2020 campaign owes him. Other valuables he must turn over include more than two dozen high-end watches, a jersey signed by New York Yankees Hall of Famer Joe Dimaggio, furniture and other sports memorabilia. 

Liman deferred judgment on whether Freeman and Moss are owed a trio of World Series rings that Giuliani's son, Andrew, has said belong to him. Liman also declined to rule on whether Giuliani must turn over a condo in Palm Beach, Florida.

Giuliani has been disbarred in New York and Washington, D.C., and the fallout from his 2020 post-election actions has continued even as Trump is just two weeks away from an election that could see him retake the White House.

Giuliani no longer works for Trump directly, but in September 2023, the former president hosted a fundraiser at his New Jersey golf club to aid Giuliani's legal bills.

A spokesperson for Giuliani did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

[Barrister]

Giuliani is such a tragic figure (which doesn't mean he doesn't deserve what's coming).

He had a successful career as a prosecutor which he turned into a very successful run as Mayor of New York.  He was seen as a national figure after 9/11.

He then failed in bids for the Senate, and in 2008 for President, but still a well respected figure.

But then no - in 2016 he had to throw his hat in with Trump and flushed it all away.

[DGuller]

I think people are badly wrong to mock Trump and dismiss him.  He truly is charismatic.  That doesn't mean that his charisma works on everyone, no one's charisma does, but for some of the people it works on it works so well that they're willing to destroy themselves.  It happened again and again, and no matter how often Trump cuts people lose after they're no longer useful to him, the supply of new people to use never seems to dry up.

[Valmy]

Giuliani is such a tragic figure (which doesn't mean he doesn't deserve what's coming).

He had a successful career as a prosecutor which he turned into a very successful run as Mayor of New York.  He was seen as a national figure after 9/11.

He then failed in bids for the Senate, and in 2008 for President, but still a well respected figure.

But then no - in 2016 he had to throw his hat in with Trump and flushed it all away.

Yep. Hard to believe Rudy was once one of the most popular people in the country.

[Valmy]

I think people are badly wrong to mock Trump and dismiss him.  He truly is charismatic.  That doesn't mean that his charisma works on everyone, no one's charisma does, but for some of the people it works on it works so well that they're willing to destroy themselves.  It happened again and again, and no matter how often Trump cuts people lose after they're no longer useful to him, the supply of new people to use never seems to dry up.

Yeah I think anybody who has done this since February 2016 is a fool. When he came in second at the Iowa Caucus I had a second when I hoped the balloon was about to deflate but then he easily won in New Hampshire and that was that.

And he does seem to do a great job charming a certain kind of person. Elon is clearly being charmed and sucked up to. Of course if Trump wins he will get rid of him the second he becomes a liability. But people like Rudy and Elon have tremendous egos, they don't think it will happen to them. They think they are special.

[Sophie Scholl]

Was Rudy popular outside of his 9/11 response/management? If memory serves, he was pretty reviled before that by most folks. His, "America's Mayor" title pretty much solely had to do with the 9/11 hero worship/Event Memory that was deeply implanted into American and, to a lesser extent, global consciousness.

[Admiral Yi]

Was Rudy popular outside of his 9/11 response/management? If memory serves, he was pretty reviled before that by most folks. His, "America's Mayor" title pretty much solely had to do with the 9/11 hero worship/Event Memory that was deeply implanted into American and, to a lesser extent, global consciousness.

I thought he was liked.  He was widely credited with making NYC safer and making it a family friendly tourist destination.  He had a guest spot on SNL in which Jimmy Fallon mocked his combover.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

He was known over here for making new York a safe place again, and that was before 911.

[garbon]

If this is accurate he mainly stumbled in net favorability around the time he was facing Clinton for the senate seat. Wiki also suggests things like his affair and a police shooting of a black guy soured people on him.

[Sheilbh]

And implied in that chart is that he was pretty popular in his first term too.

Though with Giuliani and his huge support for Trump, I always remember that description of him in his 2008 campaign as a "a small man in search of a balcony" and it's maybe less surprising.

[Josquius]

Giuliani does seem set for a great biopic down the line.

Alas I do think for much of the world he will be forever the pervert in the hotel room.

[The Brain]

Giuliani does seem set for a great biopic down the line.

Better than Rudy?