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Title: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:05:33 AM
The season begins tonight, with the Gints and Dallas moving up from Thursday in order to avoid the President's speech tomorrow night.

Wed - Dallas at N.Y. Giants (-4) (8:30pm ET)
Sun - Philadelphia at Cleveland (+9) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Washington at New Orleans (-10) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Atlanta at Kansas City (+1) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - St. Louis at Detroit (-9) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Indianapolis at Chicago (-11) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Jacksonville at Minnesota (-4.5) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - New England at Tennessee (+7) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Miami at Houston (-12) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (-2.5) (1:00pm ET)
Sun - Seattle at Arizona (+1.5) (4:25pm ET)
Sun - Carolina at Tampa Bay (+1) (4:25pm ET)
Sun - San Francisco at Green Bay (-5) (4:25pm ET)
Sun - Pittsburgh at Denver (pick) (8:20pm ET)
Mon - Cincinnati at Baltimore (-6) (7:00pm ET)
Mon - San Diego at Oakland (pick) (10:15pm ET)


And in other news, the Hammer speaks:

QuoteBernard Pollard delivers warning to Bengals WR A.J. Green: Don't go across the middle

Ravens strong safety Bernard Pollard issued a warning along with his complimentary words about Cincinnati Bengals Pro Bowl wide receiver A.J. Green heading into Monday night's season opener.

Green is the Bengals' most dangerous downfield threat, one of the better young receivers in the league. At 6 feet 1, 225 pounds, Pollard is an intimidating enforcer in the middle of the Ravens' defense.

"I think A.J. Green is a really special talent," Pollard said. "The guy can go down the field, he can go across the middle. But, when he goes across the middle, he has to see us. And that's not taking anything away from him, but this is what we live for.

"When we see receivers come across the middle, if we are in the right defense, we are going to smack you, and we are going to let you know that you came across the middle on the wrong team. Having said that if you miss him, he can hit a home run."

As a rookie, Green recorded 65 receptions for 1,057 yards and seven touchdowns with an average of 16.3 yards per catch.

Fast and surehanded at 6-4, 207 pounds, Green provided an instant go-to guy for quarterback Andy Dalton during his rookie season. The former first-round draft pick from Georgia was particularly dangerous on the road, where he caught 39 passes for 603 yards and five touchdowns.

He wasn't successful, though, against the Ravens last season.

Green missed the first game against the Ravens last season due to an injury, and was limited to two catches for 26 yards and no touchdowns in the regular-season finale in Cincinnati where Baltimore won the AFC North division title last season.

"He has a special gift, and I think [Bengals coach] Marvin [Lewis] has done a great job as far as getting guys in there to help Andy," Pollard said. "We just have to be ready. We don't know what's going to happen yet, but we know they are going to test us. We know that anytime a team steps in here, we are going to get their best shot. I don't care who it is. They can have no wins, we are going to get their best shot."
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Valmy on September 05, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
I look forward to the excitement RGIII is going to bring to my depressingly boring Redskins.  I also hope for few Camera Shots of Snyder.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:05:33 AM
And in other news, the Hammer speaks:

QuoteBernard Pollard delivers warning to Bengals WR A.J. Green: Don't go across the middle

The Hammer needs to pick up his iPad & watch more Bengals film.  They never throw to AJ over the middle.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:25:59 AM
Also, I'm not sure how serious to take this, but I've been put on stand-by in case there is another, ehm, last minute personnel change in the video department.  There's a small chance I could be coming out to Baltimore and/or Washington the next two weeks.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:25:59 AM
Also, I'm not sure how serious to take this, but I've been put on stand-by in case there is another, ehm, last minute personnel change in the video department.  There's a small chance I could be coming out to Baltimore and/or Washington the next two weeks.

LOL, Looks like somebody else is on the bubble as well.
"Do not fail Mike Brown...Admiral Spiess."
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 01:08:11 PM
Ugh. Cowgirls at Giants.

ROMO! & ELI!
Ad infinitum from the annoucers.

:(
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:25:59 AM
Also, I'm not sure how serious to take this, but I've been put on stand-by in case there is another, ehm, last minute personnel change in the video department.  There's a small chance I could be coming out to Baltimore and/or Washington the next two weeks.

LOL, Looks like somebody else is on the bubble as well.
"Do not fail Mike Brown...Admiral Spiess."

:lol:  There is an enormous amount of pressure to get the prints for the exact millisecond that each coach demands.  But when I fill in that role it's not like it's my career and main source of income, and the smarter coaches realize that.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 06:44:01 PM
Ugh, this pre-game uberproduction NBC shit is annoying.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 06:44:53 PM
WHY IN THE FUCK DID I JUST SEE PHIL SIMMS?
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 07:06:44 PM
Shit-- Jason Whitten is playing?? Had him and his lacerated spleen benched.

All good now :cool:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: FunkMonk on September 05, 2012, 07:09:30 PM
There is football on tonight.  :) :)
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
No Doubt? No doubt I'd like to see them all thrown in a wood chipper.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:29:54 PM
I'd climb those 5' legs and rub my dick on that taut ass belly, though.  She's such a saucy, leggy slut.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 07:34:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:29:54 PM
I'd climb those 5' legs and rub my dick on that taut ass belly, though.  She's such a saucy, leggy slut.

you can have her.  :yuk:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:37:52 PM
Mariah Carey was on earlier.  I'd do her first.  Don't care where she's been, it washes off.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 07:40:14 PM
Gospel rendition of the national anthem?  WTF, NFL.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:40:49 PM
Helicopter flyover?  Gay.  And they weren't even gunships.  Fucking Blackhawks.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
MY BLOOD IS GETTING ANGRIED UP
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 07:44:45 PM
I knew it was gonna suck when I saw Queen Latifah.  Had no idea it would be even worse.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 05, 2012, 07:45:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 07:40:49 PM
Helicopter flyover?  Gay.  And they weren't even gunships.  Fucking Blackhawks.
They're lucky one didn't crash.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 07:46:05 PM
Goddamn.  It just hit me that I'm going to have to root for Romo given that he's on my fantasy team.  Whatever happens, I lose.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 05, 2012, 07:48:09 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 07:46:05 PM
Goddamn.  It just hit me that I'm going to have to root for Romo given that he's on my fantasy team.  Whatever happens, I lose.
Romo has a history of putting up good numbers while failing.  You're all good.

I'm in the same boat with 'Punch My Face' Rivers.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 05, 2012, 08:04:25 PM
Flagflagflagflagflag

In other news, David Carr looks like he's recovering from cancer, or escaped from a concentration camp or something.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Valmy on September 05, 2012, 08:09:34 PM
Wow a referee just called 'clipping'...probably the first time I have seen that penalty called since 1988.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 08:22:57 PM
Oh, Tony, Tony, Tony...
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 08:27:05 PM
Awesome use of journey there NBC.  :)
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 05, 2012, 08:31:25 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 05, 2012, 08:27:05 PM
Awesome use of journey there NBC.  :)
I don't think that love will ever find the Cowboys.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 05, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 05, 2012, 08:09:34 PM
Wow a referee just called 'clipping'...probably the first time I have seen that penalty called since 1988.
Watch a Raider game.  They invent shit to call on them.  See:  The Tuck Rule.  Also, Kyle!  Orton!  Kyle!  Orton! :showoff:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Grey Fox on September 05, 2012, 08:59:50 PM
The replacements aren't much worse then the regular refs so far.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
Yeah, Go Tony Romo!!

Still feels wrong.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
Yeah, Go Tony Romo!!

Still feels wrong.

I know, I know.  :console:

No love for the Cowpokes, but goddamn, all fucking New York teams must fucking hang.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 05, 2012, 10:02:32 PM
I dunno.  I've enjoyed watching the unheralded Giants win championships while the hyped Jets fail year after year.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 05, 2012, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 05, 2012, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 05, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
Yeah, Go Tony Romo!!

Still feels wrong.

I know, I know.  :console:

No love for the Cowpokes, but goddamn, all fucking New York City area teams must fucking hang.
FYP The Bills and Sabres are generally harmless.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 06:19:35 AM
Art Modell passed away early this AM at Johns Hopkins.  87 years old.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Caliga on September 06, 2012, 06:42:23 AM
 :(
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 09:12:30 AM
Quote from: Neil on September 05, 2012, 10:02:32 PM
I dunno.  I've enjoyed watching the unheralded Giants win championships while the hyped Jets fail year after year.

Yeah.  It was particularly fun to see their respective late season runs last year.  Most people had the Jets as a lock for the playoffs by week 14-ish, and they failed in all Sanchezian spectacularity. 
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 01:21:47 PM
I feel sorry for the city of Denver.  They had to deal with Pittsburgh fans their last home game of last season, and the first game of this season.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: crazy canuck on September 06, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
I watched parts of the 2nd quarter, then went to watch the stain on my deck dry for a bit more excitment.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 06, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
I watched parts of the 2nd quarter, then went to watch the stain on my deck dry for a bit more excitment.

I thought it was a pretty good game.  Romo got 28 fantasy points.  My lacerated spleen dude only got 2, though-- I wish I hadn't seen him warming up during the pre-game & left the other guy in :angry:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 06, 2012, 05:32:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 06:19:35 AM
Art Modell passed away early this AM at Johns Hopkins.  87 years old.
I remember a much more colorful obit on your part when Irsay died. What's the difference I wonder?  :hmm:

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/features/2012/nfl_2012/preseason/art_modell_dead_he_was_a_grifter_a_traitor_and_a_model_nfl_owner_.html
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 06, 2012, 05:32:28 PM
I remember a much more colorful obit on your part when Irsay died. What's the difference I wonder?  :hmm:

Robert Irsay can't hold a candle to the accomplishments Arthur B. Modell achieved in making the league what it is today.
Bob Irsay was a filthy soulless Jew whose own mother called "the devil himself", and Art Modell was a pioneer of the league.

So go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: citizen k on September 06, 2012, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 05:43:16 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 06, 2012, 05:32:28 PM
I remember a much more colorful obit on your part when Irsay died. What's the difference I wonder?  :hmm:

Robert Irsay can't hold a candle to the accomplishments Arthur B. Modell achieved in making the league what it is today.
Bob Irsay was a filthy soulless Jew whose own mother called "the devil himself", and Art Modell was a pioneer of the league.

So go fuck yourself.

NPR did a pretty good piece on Art Modell's passing. You might find it on their website, I think it was "All Things Considered".


Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: crazy canuck on September 06, 2012, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 04:06:58 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 06, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
I watched parts of the 2nd quarter, then went to watch the stain on my deck dry for a bit more excitment.

I thought it was a pretty good game.  Romo got 28 fantasy points.  My lacerated spleen dude only got 2, though-- I wish I hadn't seen him warming up during the pre-game & left the other guy in :angry:

I the period of time I watched the score ran up to 3-0.  Both offences were the typical 1-2 yards and a cloud of dust NFL style borefest.  If the game got better that at least gives some hope.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 06, 2012, 06:56:57 PM
I the period of time I watched the score ran up to 3-0.  Both offences were the typical 1-2 yards and a cloud of dust NFL style borefest.  If the game got better that at least gives some hope.

It was very much a Week-1-is-really-the-5th-preseason-game affair, unfortunately.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 06, 2012, 07:25:55 PM
QuoteMaryland politician out of line for attacking Brendon Ayanbadejo's support of gay marriage
5 hours ago

Brendon Ayanbadejo is in his 10th season as an NFL linebacker, the last five with the Baltimore Ravens. The two-time All-Pro hails from Santa Cruz, Calif., attended UCLA and throughout his career has lived a vibrant, out-of-football life.

He's written columns for his hometown paper, the Santa Cruz Sentinel. He's fought for federal legislation requiring schools to monitor kids' physical activities and promote proper nutrition. He's worked relentlessly on environmental sustainability issues.

And, of late, he's been a major advocate of same sex marriage, which was legalized in Maryland earlier this year but faces a ballot initiative in November.

It's that stance, and Ayanbadejo's actions in support, that found him under the wrath of a local pastor and state house of delegates-member Emmett C. Burns Jr. (D-Baltimore County).

Burns went nuts last week, firing off a letter on Maryland House of Delegate letterhead to Ravens owner Steven Bisciotti seeking action against Ayanbadejo.

"I find it inconceivable that one of your players, Mr. Brendon Ayanbadejo would publicly endorse Same-Sex marriage, specifically as a Raven Football player," Burns wrote in the letter first obtained by WBAL-TV. "Many of my constituents and your football supporters are appalled and aghast that a member of the Ravens Football Team would step into this controversial divide and try to sway public opinion one way or the other.

"Many of your fans are opposed to such a view and feel it has no place in a sport that is strictly for pride, entertainment and excitement," Burns continued. "I believe Mr. Ayanbadejo should concentrate on football and steer clear of dividing the fan base.

"I am requesting that you take the necessary action, as a National Football League Owner, to inhibit such expressions from your employees and that he be ordered to cease and desist such injurious actions. I know of no other NFL player who has done what Mr. Ayanbadejo is doing."

Oh, boy, where to start?

I find it inconceivable that an elected politician is in favor of an employer overriding his collectively bargained labor agreement and suddenly, and illegally, taking action to inhibit political activity.

I find it even more inconceivable that anyone – let alone a government official – would demand the employer act like a pseudo government and wipe out the freedom of expression in a debate on equal rights.

This isn't hate speech or a slur, it's participating in a ballot initiative on a law that Burns' own fellow politicians just passed.

Of course, that's no more inconceivable than someone who believes sports has no place being anything more than "entertainment" and "excitement." He apparently missed the impact of Muhammad Ali, Jackie Robinson, Tommie Smith, John Carlos and so on and so on and so on.

Tim Tebow being one of those "so ons."

Then again, how do you figure out someone who is apparently troubled that an NFL football player would say or do something that's not in complete agreement with every single NFL fan? February's Super Bowl was viewed by 166.8 million people, we're pretty sure that includes someone from every single way of thinking imaginable.

And, of course, Burns is a fool if he thinks there aren't gay Ravens fans out there. Or even gay Ravens. Or just straight people, deeply religious even, who because of Ayanbadejo's work on the issue now consider him their favorite player.

Oh, and Burns isn't real strong on the rules of capitalization either.

For the record, the Ravens declined comment to The Washington Post on the letter. Don't expect anything to come of it. The league has a long and proper history of allowing players to express themselves.

None of this is about whether you support or oppose gay marriage in Maryland or anywhere else. Go ahead and debate that among yourselves.

It's about the idea that NFL players should be robots who simply play football and have no outside thoughts or interests. That's not who most of them are. It's the same defense that Tebow deserves when some grow angry that he honors his faith during football games. Why shouldn't he? Who is that hurting? Besides, it's not just Tebow. Go ahead and try counting how many touchdowns get scored this weekend without someone pointing to the sky.

It's not even about gay marriage. This is about common sense and the common good. America doesn't need its natural role models – pro athletes – stifled from showing their broader interests, their intellectual curiosity, their thoughts and beliefs and education and politics.

Ayanbadejo wasn't on the field making some big display. In his private life he's spoken on the subject, written online columns in support of the law and, The Washington Post reports, offered up two Ravens tickets as a fundraiser for the group Marylanders for Marriage Equality.

That's what Burns considers "injurious"? Until Burns got all appalled and aghast we doubt most people even knew about it.

We need more Brendon Ayanbadejos, not fewer, the way we need more Tim Tebows, not fewer. We need more young men aware of and engaged in the big, complex world outside the film room, not less. Let the free market place of ideas sort out who is followed or not.

We need more NFL players who are motivated by thinking and not just acquiring material goods. We need kids to see that football is a fleeting job and that understanding a larger world is far more important. We need more examples of people respectfully standing up for what they believe in, even on a subject that is historically taboo in team locker rooms.

This is a diverse country, diverse even inside the diversity. We need diverse role models to serve it.

There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with Ayanbadejo. He, like Tebow, stuck his neck out there. They knew there would be disagreement and to both of their credits, they didn't complain.

"Football is just my job it's not who I am," Ayanbadejo wrote on Twitter. "I am an American before anything. And just like every American I have the right to speak!!!"

Indeed he does. And that right to speak – for or against this or any other legitimate issue, from nearly any point on the political spectrum – shouldn't be shouted down, shouldn't have small-minded pastors or politicians screaming for silence.

It should be respected.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
Yeah, ol' Emmett is a bit of a goof.  Flipped out over Obama's statement of affirmation on gay marriage as well.

But that's OK;  there are a hell of a lot more Brendon Ayanbadejo fans than there are Emmett Burns fans.  :lol:

Personally, I'm looking forward to the ballot initiative;  probably the most important vote other than for POTUS that I can think of in recent Maryland history.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 06, 2012, 07:40:21 PM
QuoteNo middle ground when discussing former Browns and Ravens owner Art Modell
7 hours ago

In his own weird way, the late Art Modell was the NFL version of Michael Jackson. He was a brilliant, innovative, forward-thinking businessman armed with great wit and charm who helped propel the NFL into being America's game and by far the most successful sports business in the country.

He's also the man who ripped the heart out of Cleveland, a city that defines this country's passion for the game. He didn't just spit on the adoring fans of the Browns, he did it with a smug smile. He violated a seemingly sacred trust by moving the Browns to Baltimore in 1996.

And that is why, as Modell passed away Thursday morning at age 87, it is so hard to categorize him. Is he a hero of the game who deserves a place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Or is he a pariah whose presence should never be glorified again, let alone be enshrined in a place less than an hour from Cleveland?

The people on both sides of this argument are fierce. Baltimore Ravens ace PR man Kevin Byrne, who himself left his hometown of Cleveland with the Browns, has defended Modell for years. On the other side, people such as standout Browns beat writers Tony Grossi and Mary Kay Cabot go clench-jawed at the first syllable of Modell's last name.

And Grossi and Cabot pride themselves on trying to be above the emotional fray.


Truth is, there is little place for Modell in that interval between right and wrong. He is either good or evil, and the battle lines are as fierce as Korea to this day. Intelligent measure of Modell's accomplishments is nearly impossible.

People who fight for Modell to make the Hall of Fame continually like to say that you can't write the history of the league without him. True, but Clevelanders would argue that you can't write the history of the world without mentioning Rasputin.

The fact is Modell was a marketing genius, the man who pioneered the idea of Monday Night Football and pushed for prime-time games on Thanksgiving. He even volunteered the Browns for those games when other owners thought the ideas were silly.

"I don't think you get the NFL to where it is today without Art's ideas and his willingness to push them," Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said two years ago. "Art understood the value of our product and what it meant to our culture."

Or as NFL commissioner Roger Goodell issued in a statement Thursday morning: "Art Modell's leadership was an important part of the NFL's success during the league's explosive growth during the 1960s and beyond. As the longtime chairman of the league's Broadcast Committee, Art was a visionary who understood the critical role that mass viewing of NFL games on broadcast television could play in growing the league."

Other people in the NFL, such as the great Ozzie Newsome and current Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti talk about Modell in glowing terms. Modell was a charming man, constantly armed with a joke or a story. In many ways, he was everybody's favorite uncle.


From that perspective, Modell deserves great honor. While he wasn't necessarily a great football man (he would often base his questions to the coaching staff on whatever issues were raised in the morning paper), he understood the bigger picture.

At the same time, Modell lacked a certain business acumen that eventually led to the undoing of the team in Cleveland. That started in 1961, when Modell purchased the Browns for $4 million. He put up only $250,000 of his own money and borrowed the rest.

The problem is that Modell kept borrowing and borrowing. He was the consummate owner on credit, borrowing against the value of the team so much that he was in a terrible leverage position by the mid-1990s.

On top of that, he did a terrible job of working the back-room politics of the city. As the landlord of old Cleveland Municipal Stadium, Modell overcharged the Cleveland Indians to the point that they eventually moved to nearby Jacobs Field. When he did that, local politicians became angry when he asked for his own stadium (and control of it).


With credit bills due and no great way to increase his cash flow, Modell took the money and new stadium from Baltimore. He made the decision in the middle of the 1995 season, stunning the Browns faithful. This was the ugliest team move a city has ever seen because the loyal fans of Cleveland couldn't understand it.

Fact is, the fans did nothing wrong. The Browns sold out year after year despite a team that hadn't won a championship (or even played for one) since 1964. The home of such football luminaries as Jim Brown, Paul Brown and Otto Graham was treated with all the dignity of a youth hostel.

Modell's move to Baltimore included back-door negotiations, political maneuvering and even the deal being signed on a plane. In the immediate aftermath, Modell had his life threatened to the point that he had to leave Cleveland. As years have gone by, the violent streak waned, but the anger remained.

The NFL was so embarrassed by Modell's move that Cleveland was promised an expansion team, re-entering the league in 1999, and even agreed that the city would keep the Browns name and records.

In the center of all of it was Modell, a Brooklyn native who once talked about how the move of his beloved Dodgers in 1958 had been so crushing. Modell was the same guy who criticized Robert Irsay for moving the Baltimore Colts to Indianapolis in 1983 and had testified for the league against Al Davis when Davis moved the Raiders from Oakland to Los Angeles.

All that virtuous talk was empty blather. As a result, many people look at Modell as an empty shell.

Sadly, neither those who love Modell nor those who hate him are necessarily wrong.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 06, 2012, 07:40:31 PM
I saw Ray Ray's statement on Modell. Rather nice and classy. Unlike the public ejaculation in Cleveland.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 07:45:43 PM
I'm not even going to comment on that article, which is filled with inaccuracies.

Except this part:

QuoteAnd Grossi and Cabot pride themselves on trying to be above the emotional fray.

As selectors for the NFL Hall Of Fame, they finally got what they wanted.  Above the emotional fray, my black ass.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:24:40 PM
On one hand, Modell indirectly helped create the Bengals.  On the other hand, he was unkind to Paul Brown :angry:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:24:40 PM
On one hand, Modell indirectly helped create the Bengals.  On the other hand, he was unkind to Paul Brown :angry:

Paul Brown was a megalomaniac, and forgot who the boss was.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:24:40 PM
On one hand, Modell indirectly helped create the Bengals.  On the other hand, he was unkind to Paul Brown :angry:

Paul Brown was a megalomaniac, and forgot who the boss was.

Paul Brown arguably the most innovative figure of the golden age of football, and did more to advance the game than Modell could have dreamed of.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
Paul Brown arguably the most innovative figure of the golden age of football, and did more to advance the game than Modell could have dreamed of.

And he forgot who the boss was.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
Paul Brown arguably the most innovative figure of the golden age of football, and did more to advance the game than Modell could have dreamed of.

And he forgot who the boss was.

Yeah, a non-football guy with bad judgment.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 08:43:48 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 06, 2012, 08:30:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 06, 2012, 08:28:42 PM
Paul Brown arguably the most innovative figure of the golden age of football, and did more to advance the game than Modell could have dreamed of.

And he forgot who the boss was.

Yeah, a non-football guy with bad judgment.

Save it, minion.  We know who signs your paychecks.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: dps on September 07, 2012, 06:18:05 AM
In other words, Paul Brown was the Douglas MacArthur of the NFL.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Valmy on September 07, 2012, 10:08:56 AM
Quote from: dps on September 07, 2012, 06:18:05 AM
In other words, Paul Brown was the Douglas MacArthur of the NFL.

Except Douglas MacArthur was also a crap general while Paul Brown was an awesome coach.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 07, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
Saints players win their appeal! :yeah:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 07, 2012, 08:00:18 PM
Vikings punter Chris Kluwe's response to Emmett Burns

http://deadspin.com/5941348/they-wont-magically-turn-you-into-a-lustful-cockmonster-chris-kluwe-explains-gay-marriage-to-the-politician-who-is-offended-by-an-nfl-player-supporting-it


QuoteDear Emmett C. Burns Jr.,

I find it inconceivable that you are an elected official of Maryland's state government. Your vitriolic hatred and bigotry make me ashamed and disgusted to think that you are in any way responsible for shaping policy at any level. The views you espouse neglect to consider several fundamental key points, which I will outline in great detail (you may want to hire an intern to help you with the longer words):

1. As I suspect you have not read the Constitution, I would like to remind you that the very first, the VERY FIRST Amendment in this founding document deals with the freedom of speech, particularly the abridgment of said freedom. By using your position as an elected official (when referring to your constituents so as to implicitly threaten the Ravens organization) to state that the Ravens should "inhibit such expressions from your employees," more specifically Brendon Ayanbadejo, not only are you clearly violating the First Amendment, you also come across as a narcissistic fromunda stain. What on earth would possess you to be so mind-boggingly stupid? It baffles me that a man such as yourself, a man who relies on that same First Amendment to pursue your own religious studies without fear of persecution from the state, could somehow justify stifling another person's right to speech. To call that hypocritical would be to do a disservice to the word. Mindfucking obscenely hypocritical starts to approach it a little bit.

2. "Many of your fans are opposed to such a view and feel it has no place in a sport that is strictly for pride, entertainment, and excitement." Holy fucking shitballs. Did you seriously just say that, as someone who's "deeply involved in government task forces on the legacy of slavery in Maryland"? Have you not heard of Kenny Washington? Jackie Robinson? As recently as 1962 the NFL still had segregation, which was only done away with by brave athletes and coaches daring to speak their mind and do the right thing, and you're going to say that political views have "no place in a sport"? I can't even begin to fathom the cognitive dissonance that must be coursing through your rapidly addled mind right now; the mental gymnastics your brain has to tortuously contort itself through to make such a preposterous statement are surely worthy of an Olympic gold medal (the Russian judge gives you a 10 for "beautiful oppressionism").

3. This is more a personal quibble of mine, but why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate the fact that other people want a chance to live their lives and be happy, even though they may believe in something different than you, or act different than you? How does gay marriage, in any way shape or form, affect your life? If gay marriage becomes legal, are you worried that all of a sudden you'll start thinking about penis? "Oh shit. Gay marriage just passed. Gotta get me some of that hot dong action!" Will all of your friends suddenly turn gay and refuse to come to your Sunday Ticket grill-outs? (Unlikely, since gay people enjoy watching football too.)

I can assure you that gay people getting married will have zero effect on your life. They won't come into your house and steal your children. They won't magically turn you into a lustful cockmonster. They won't even overthrow the government in an orgy of hedonistic debauchery because all of a sudden they have the same legal rights as the other 90 percent of our population—rights like Social Security benefits, child care tax credits, Family and Medical Leave to take care of loved ones, and COBRA healthcare for spouses and children. You know what having these rights will make gays? Full-fledged American citizens just like everyone else, with the freedom to pursue happiness and all that entails. Do the civil-rights struggles of the past 200 years mean absolutely nothing to you?

In closing, I would like to say that I hope this letter, in some small way, causes you to reflect upon the magnitude of the colossal foot in mouth clusterfuck you so brazenly unleashed on a man whose only crime was speaking out for something he believed in. Best of luck in the next election; I'm fairly certain you might need it.

Sincerely,
Chris Kluwe

P.S. I've also been vocal as hell about the issue of gay marriage so you can take your "I know of no other NFL player who has done what Mr. Ayanbadejo is doing" and shove it in your close-minded, totally lacking in empathy piehole and choke on it. Asshole.

:lmfao:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
Saw him earlier on Ed's show

QuoteChris Kluwe ‏@ChrisWarcraft

Also I'll be on MSNBC tonight around 8est on the Ed Schultz Show. My guess is we talk about secrets to successful tabletop miniature gaming.

:lol:

He's so fucking awesome.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: ulmont on September 07, 2012, 09:00:59 PM
The Saints thing is more of a delay than a win, unfortunately, but I'll take what I can get.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Valmy on September 07, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
I am now worried about the bounty that is going to be on RG3 on Sunday  :ph34r:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 09, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Trent Richardson just knocked the shit out of an eagles db.  You will see it on sportscenter.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on September 09, 2012, 01:38:49 PM
24-3 Texans at the half.  They looked a little shaky/rusty/whatever at first, then started getting turnovers.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 09, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Trent Richardson just knocked the shit out of an eagles db.  You will see it on sportscenter.
Too bad that's all he's done.  Weeden is terrible still.  Ugh.  Fucking Holmgren and company. :bleeding:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 09, 2012, 01:43:14 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on September 09, 2012, 01:38:49 PM
24-3 Texans at the half.  They looked a little shaky/rusty/whatever at first, then started getting turnovers.
At first I was dismayed, but the Dolphins weren't getting out of today with their self-respect intact.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 09, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
The chick official is working the lions/rams game.  She is definitely doable.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 02:01:04 PM
Right now it's 27-14 Foreskins over the Saints.  RG3's play is rather disturbing.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 09, 2012, 02:03:32 PM
Rg3 has been very impressive.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 09, 2012, 02:04:02 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 02:01:04 PM
Right now it's 27-14 Foreskins over the Saints.  RG3's play is rather disturbing.
Just remember:  It's against the Saints.  They're only technically an NFL defence.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2012, 02:03:32 PM
Rg3 has been very impressive.

That's what's disturbing about it.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 09, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
Trent Richardson just knocked the shit out of an eagles db.  You will see it on sportscenter.
Too bad that's all he's done.  Weeden is terrible still.  Ugh.  Fucking Holmgren and company. :bleeding:

Tressel is in attendance. TRESSEL BALL FOR EVERYBODY!

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.sbnation.com%2Fassets%2F1348457%2Ftrentrichardsonbeast.gif&hash=d730dd5e346692f2c849ec231d44a90d1cf4ae50)

I still :wub: Kurt Coleman.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Liep on September 09, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: sbr on September 09, 2012, 01:59:31 PM
The chick official is working the lions/rams game.  She is definitely doable.
:PICS
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 02:43:07 PM
VICK BONER
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
I've got to wonder why BA would want to watch the Browns voluntarily. Christ.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
I've got to wonder why BA would want to watch the Browns voluntarily. Christ.

Did I read that ticker right? Weeden has 3 picks, but they're up on the Eagles anyway?
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
I've got to wonder why BA would want to watch the Browns voluntarily. Christ.

Did I read that ticker right? Weeden has 3 picks, but they're up on the Eagles anyway?

Yep. I turned the channel to watch neckbeard Luck a bit, and the Brownies pull something out of their ass.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 03:13:29 PM
Clearly, Saint Tressel has inspired the Browns.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:14:38 PM
Oh, fuck you and your sweater vest.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:14:38 PM
Oh, fuck you and your sweater vest.

You know you love it.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:15:53 PM
lol, Mike Vick, 4 INTs.  Imagine that.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:15:53 PM
lol, Mike Vick, 4 INTs.  Imagine that.

Fucker is just gunslinging it. That and side arming it.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
LOL Vick fumble.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 03:27:38 PM
Fucking NFL forced regional coverage bullshit.

I'm missing the Niners and Packers, because we're forced to watch the rest of the 40-25 Saints pasting by the Foreskins.

It's like having a 12 year flashback with no football in Baltimore.  All Redskins, all the time, whether you like it or not.  Fucking NFL.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 09, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
Fox is showing the seahawks and cardinals instead of 49ers/gb. :mad:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 09, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
Luck looks worse without his neck beard than with it.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: stjaba on September 09, 2012, 04:27:20 PM
Bucs are looking good so far. They're up 13-0 on the Carolina Newtons. I'm having to watch the game on an  online stream because the game is blacked out locally. :pinch:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 04:28:45 PM
49ers and Packers are mixing it up like it's the first round of the playoffs, not the first week of the season.  :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 09, 2012, 04:30:13 PM
:lol:

Jermichael Finley is kind of a bitch.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Kleves on September 09, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
Russell Wilson is not looking like a starter.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 09, 2012, 05:16:19 PM
Pats looked good. :)
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Valmy on September 09, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
Hail to the Redskins!  Hail to RG3!

That is all -_-
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 09, 2012, 06:58:27 PM
Great game by the Niners.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Kleves on September 09, 2012, 07:02:07 PM
Fuck.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 09, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
:nelson: at seachickens
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 10:39:35 PM
Lulz, Rapistburgered.

That defense in Denver is scary good.  Not only do they get pressure on the QB, but if you've got Champ Bailey on one corner, you have to throw at Tracy Porter on the other.  Yikes.

Oh yeah, and Peyton's neck looks like it's fine.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 09, 2012, 11:30:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 09, 2012, 10:39:35 PM

Oh yeah, and Peyton's neck looks like it's fine.

It's still too long for his horse face.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 09, 2012, 11:31:54 PM
Brady vs. Manning in the AFC Championship game! Just the way it's supposed to be!  :menace:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Syt on September 10, 2012, 12:35:40 AM
Watched Bills-Jets yesterday (I tried the Redzone thingy, but the quality was shit because it seems everyone was watching it). Poor Bills. Also, I hadn't realized that all those years Rex Ryan was fattening himself up to prepare for his inevitable cell division. Where did RR #2 go, though?

Steelers game was on too late over here (start at 1am). Not the start I was hoping for. Still, can't be mad at Manning, all the best to him.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 10, 2012, 12:48:21 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 09, 2012, 02:51:05 PM
I've got to wonder why BA would want to watch the Browns voluntarily. Christ.
I actually went to the local Browns Backers bar today.  I arrived in time for the Browns to put up 10 unanswered points... and then have them piss it away.  Weeden and Richardson were... "special" to watch to say the least.  I've hated almost everything the organization has done sine bringing in Holmgren.  Every step has seemed to be a misstep at best, a horrible blunder more accurately.  I miss Mangenius a lot.  I actually believed in what he was doing and how he was building the team.  Now?  Ugh.  It's painful to watch.  Thank Hod Al Davis died and the Raiders have a chance to become relevant now, because I don't see Cleveland doing anything for a while. :(
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 05:50:36 PM
QuoteThe Ravens have deactivated wide receiver LaQuan Williams and outside linebacker Sergio Kindle for tonight's game against the Cincinnati Bengals.

Williams' inactive status means that wide receivers Tandon Doss and Deonte Thompson are active.

The Ravens also scratched offensive tackle Jah Reid (strained right calf), defensive linemen DeAngelo Tyson and Bryan Hall and tight end Billy Bajema and cornerback Asa Jackson (illness).

The Ravens have cut undrafted rookie running back Bobby Rainey and promoted running back Anthony Allen to the practice squad from the active roster.
Like the new Ravens Insider Facebook page.

Allen is active tonight as well. The move was likely for special teams.

Rainey is eligible for the practice squad, so he could take Allen's place there if he clears waivers.

The Bengals scratched cornerbacks Dre' Kirkpatrick (knee) and Jason Allen (quadriceps), running back Bernard Scott (hand), tight end Donald Lee, wide receiver Ryan Whalen, tight end Richard Quinn and defensive end Carlos Dunlap (knee).

Last time the Ravens beat the Bengals, there was no AJ Green.  And those Bengals corners are scary.   :ph34r:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
GODDAMN SUZY YOU ARE LOOKING FINE AS SHIT GIRL
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 10, 2012, 06:01:39 PM
You keep your damn dirty hot tracks holding hands off Suzy!
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
GODDAMN SUZY YOU ARE LOOKING FINE AS SHIT GIRL

Yeah.  She's not normally my cup of tea, but she looks good with that hair.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:06:32 PM
:D. Tommy got pissed when he heard the Ravens fans boo the Bengals players running onto the field.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 10, 2012, 06:09:58 PM
Not my favorite version of the anthem.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
Who cares, it's all about the flyover.  Now that's a Mobtown flyover.  Fucking Wharthogs, baby.

No pussy ass choppers here.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:12:18 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 10, 2012, 06:01:39 PM
You keep your damn dirty hot tracks holding hands off Suzy!

She's usually fine as hell, but damn, she is really fine tonight.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on September 10, 2012, 06:17:39 PM
Good job by the Bengals D, considering what they gave up on the first play.  I see Tucker can still kick the shit out of the ball.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:20:34 PM
LOL, Ben Jarvis...Going Ole'! with Pollard isn't going to cut it.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:22:48 PM
Goddamn, that Bungles O-line better mature quick.  And I think both Dalton passes were deflected on that first possession.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:24:41 PM
FFS stop biting on play action and reverse, already.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:25:09 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:22:48 PM
Goddamn, that Bungles O-line better mature quick.  And I think both Dalton passes were deflected on that first possession.

No kidding;  3 new guys at positions?  Ugh.  The Red Rifle should see more shotgun.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:26:10 PM
Looks like Jacoby Jones caught his pass for the night.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:32:43 PM
Dropped INT that would have been key.  So it's gonna be one of those games.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:26:10 PM
Looks like Jacoby Jones caught his pass for the night.
He's caught a couple.  I'm really liking this no-huddle.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
Contrary to my expletive-filled screaming earlier in front of the kids, the game is apparently not already over.  Yet.  I thought it was when Tate fucked the offense by running it out.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 06:51:34 PM
Please, I need to see more clips from the New England game tonight.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 10, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
:D
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 06:57:47 PM
Joe Flacco is looking pretty strong.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 10, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
Glad to see Steelers aren't only team paying off refs. <_<
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 10, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
Glad to see Steelers aren't only team paying off refs. <_<

:shutup: :whistle:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 07:07:05 PM
Quote from: katmai on September 10, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
Glad to see Steelers aren't only team paying off refs. <_<

It was close.  I guess they wanted to err on the side of caution.  And get out of the stadium alive.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 07:08:03 PM
A smaller tight end wouldn't have gotten up from that shot.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
Somebody is going to be getting a visit from the fine fairy.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 07:20:36 PM
Man, the Ravens just aren't able to stop the Bengals run attack.  The right side of the Bengals line is really opening it up.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
What bothers me most about the Ravens running a no-huddle offense is the amount of time the Ravens D stays on the field.
They've managed to sustain drives with it, but 3 and out comes fast in the no-huddle, and the Ravens defense doesn't do well when they're on the wrong side of TOP.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 07:31:11 PM
I am: irked.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 10, 2012, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 07:31:11 PM
I am: irked.
I am:  Slowly closing the massive gap between us in fantasy.  Do you hear the footsteps yet?
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:10:15 PM
Third fucking key interception dropped.  That ain't gonna cut it.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:14:27 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:10:15 PM
Third fucking key interception dropped.  That ain't gonna cut it.
Yeah, that one was a gimme, and then the very next play is a big touchdown.

Still, unless the Ravens D stops them here, I won't feel safe.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:14:27 PM
Still, unless the Ravens D stops them here, I won't feel safe.

Told you, this D is going to have its problems.  No rush, no outside pressure.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 10, 2012, 08:18:03 PM
Why the Niners are the team to beat :w00t:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:18:42 PM
Bengals are catching zero breaks tonight.  But Baby Hawk is having a career game.  Only downside is that with this being an almost certain loss at this point, we're showing everyone our secret weapon for no reason.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:19:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:14:27 PM
Still, unless the Ravens D stops them here, I won't feel safe.

Told you, this D is going to have its problems.  No rush, no outside pressure.
To be fair, even with Suggs they never got much rush on the Bengals.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
LOL, Pitta's wide open all night, and Dickson's the TE getting whaled.

GOTTA BE A BLACK THING
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:22:35 PM
Ray Rice is fucking tough.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:23:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
LOL, Pitta's wide open all night, and Dickson's the TE getting whaled.

GOTTA BE A BLACK THING
Tightending while black?
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
And Reed will make no mistake.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
WTF, Dalton.  There's trying to force something, and there's being all over the map.  That was a Palmeresque pick 6. 

Bring on the Browns :mellow:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 10, 2012, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:23:09 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:22:07 PM
LOL, Pitta's wide open all night, and Dickson's the TE getting whaled.

GOTTA BE A BLACK THING
Tightending while black?
Flacco hates blacks, why Ed getting no love.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:37:40 PM
And then Ray forces a fumble.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 10, 2012, 08:39:56 PM
Dammit spicey i'm tempted to start calling them the Bungles again.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
It's a feeding frenzy now.

I expected much better play from the Bengals corners, that was a just a silly PI to commit.

Loved the little love tap from Ngata.  Just a little nudge.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:44:28 PM
It's hard not to get excited, even though it's only the first game.  So many things that give the Ravens trouble (the Bengals, Monday Night games, offence) are just no trouble at all tonight.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
So, is hitting a quarterback a penalty now?
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Now that was a bullshit flag.  Gruden's right, though;  Bengals have no business hanging Dalton out to dry like that with a notorious CB blitzer like Webb.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:44:28 PM
It's hard not to get excited, even though it's only the first game.  So many things that give the Ravens trouble (the Bengals, Monday Night games, offence) are just no trouble at all tonight.

But man...the Cincy OL is having real issues in pass protection.  They're supporting the run just fine, but that was out the window 21 points ago.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:53:10 PM
Jesus Christ, I thought for a moment Dalton was going to have himself a Tomczak Moment(tm).

NEVER TURN BACK INTO THE RUSH WHEN YOURE FLUSHED OUT OF THE POCKET
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Now that was a bullshit flag.  Gruden's right, though;  Bengals have no business hanging Dalton out to dry like that with a notorious CB blitzer like Webb.

How was it a bullshit flag?  Even if it weren't, I'm sick of seeing guys lead with their head, use the helmet as a weapon, and relying on nothing but kinetic energy to bring a guy down.  The right way to play is to keep your head up, wrap with your arms and drive the guy into the ground.  They need to start doing a lot more to discourage this kind of play.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
How was it a bullshit flag?  Even if it weren't, I'm sick of seeing guys lead with their head, use the helmet as a weapon, and relying on nothing but kinetic energy to bring a guy down.  The right way to play is to keep your head up, wrap with your arms and drive the guy into the ground.  They need to start doing a lot more to discourage this kind of play.

Bah, he tried to wrap.  His problem was he went to the inside with the right shoulder, when he should've got to the right with the left shoulder.  It just looked uglier than it was.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:55:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:51:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 10, 2012, 08:44:28 PM
It's hard not to get excited, even though it's only the first game.  So many things that give the Ravens trouble (the Bengals, Monday Night games, offence) are just no trouble at all tonight.
But man...the Cincy OL is having real issues in pass protection.  They're supporting the run just fine, but that was out the window 21 points ago.
Yeah.  Running as well as they were really helped slow the pass rush, and Pees made some adjustments with his blitzes.  At this point, it's just a frenzy and Dalton's the meat.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 10, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Now that was a bullshit flag.  Gruden's right, though;  Bengals have no business hanging Dalton out to dry like that with a notorious CB blitzer like Webb.

How was it a bullshit flag?  Even if it weren't, I'm sick of seeing guys lead with their head, use the helmet as a weapon, and relying on nothing but kinetic energy to bring a guy down.  The right way to play is to keep your head up, wrap with your arms and drive the guy into the ground.  They need to start doing a lot more to discourage this kind of play.
His head was going to the side though.  It's not like he just drilled him with the crown of the helmet.  And if he kept his head up he'd have broken his own neck.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 10, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 08:48:04 PM
Now that was a bullshit flag.  Gruden's right, though;  Bengals have no business hanging Dalton out to dry like that with a notorious CB blitzer like Webb.

How was it a bullshit flag?  Even if it weren't, I'm sick of seeing guys lead with their head, use the helmet as a weapon, and relying on nothing but kinetic energy to bring a guy down.  The right way to play is to keep your head up, wrap with your arms and drive the guy into the ground.  They need to start doing a lot more to discourage this kind of play.
His head was going to the side though.  It's not like he just drilled him with the crown of the helmet.  And if he kept his head up he'd have broken his own neck.

He drilled Dalton's left shoulderblade with the crown of his helmet.  He wouldn't have broken his neck if he were making a proper approach.  They've posted the correct heads-up tackling procedure in locker rooms since the 80s.  Pity nobody seems to pay attention to it anymore.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 09:09:27 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
He drilled Dalton's left shoulderblade with the crown of his helmet.

Bah, it was his ribs.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 10, 2012, 09:15:13 PM
Suck it Liep. Even with 18 Pts from Raven D, pulled out win in week one.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 10, 2012, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 07:31:11 PM
I am: irked.
I am:  Slowly closing the massive gap between us in fantasy.  Do you hear the footsteps yet?

6 points down, with Seabass and the Oaktown D still to play?   Shit.  :mad:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 09:09:27 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 09:07:44 PM
He drilled Dalton's left shoulderblade with the crown of his helmet.

Bah, it was his ribs.

Whatever.  Ravens looked better than any week 1 team I've seen in a while.  It's gonna take some effort to find a way to beat them this year.  Play-calling was good, if a little overly gadgety (that always works against the Bengals but they may want to tone it down against other teams), and they let Flacco use his full arm.  Ravens D was stellar when they had the Bungles offense out of their rhythm.  Nice to see Gino get in the game-- still want to see him and Flacco in at the same time.

Only good thing about this game for the Bengals is they got one of their Ravens games out of the way early and from what I saw nobody got killed.

And this is the last time I watch a prime-time game alone with the kids.  NO YOU CAN'T HAVE CHOCOLATE MILK.  DALTON JUST THREW A PICK SIX AND DADDY NEEDS TO BE ALONE.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 10, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 10, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Whatever.  Ravens looked better than any week 1 team I've seen in a while.  It's gonna take some effort to find a way to beat them this year.  Play-calling was good, if a little overly gadgety (that always works against the Bengals but they may want to tone it down against other teams), and they let Flacco use his full arm.  Ravens D was stellar when they had the Bungles offense out of their rhythm.  Nice to see Gino get in the game-- still want to see him and Flacco in at the same time.

Only good thing about this game for the Bengals is they got one of their Ravens games out of the way early and from what I saw nobody got killed.

And this is the last time I watch a prime-time game alone with the kids.  NO YOU CAN'T HAVE CHOCOLATE MILK.  DALTON JUST THREW A PICK SIX AND DADDY NEEDS TO BE ALONE.

:lol:  I dunno, man;  somebody may not have been getting those vids down to the field on time tonight.  NEXT MAN UP

I'm still not sold on the Ravens D pass rush;  they did good when the Bengals lost control of their offense, but I wasn't impressed with the lack of rush early in the game.

The Bengals secondary played poorer than they did all last year, and Dalton was off on the deep ball.  But their OL has real issues in pass protection with those new guys and Cook's replacement.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 10:33:43 AM
3 points, BA.  You fucker.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Grey Fox on September 11, 2012, 10:37:21 AM
I hate weeks like that, My defense is going against my QB & #1 WR on thursday.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: frunk on September 11, 2012, 10:39:10 AM
Oh good, I lost because my opponent's kicker had an 18 point game on Monday night.  Bah.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 11:04:35 AM
Happy Birthday, Ed Reed.  34 years old today.

QuoteWith his interception return for a touchdown, Ed Reed passed Rod Woodson for the NFL record for most interception return yards with 1,497. Woodson previously held the mark of 1,483.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Barrister on September 11, 2012, 11:08:56 AM
Holy shit.  I was afraid to look at my fantasy results, but the Fightin Crowns had a monster game led by Carson Palmer and the NE Defence. :huh:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Didn't realize until this morning that BJGE nearly broke 100 yards rushing last night.  The Browns were 30th in rush defense last year.  Wonder what the Bengals will do offensively next Sunday  :hmm:

Anywho, I got my LFFL team to overperform this weekend to get by the Fighting Nixons.  I'll need some similar magic to win this week.  Go Romo :mellow:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Didn't realize until this morning that BJGE nearly broke 100 yards rushing last night. 

Considering he had close to 70 yards and a TD in the first half, hell yeah, and he would've done more damage if those two quick scores from the TD and Ed's pick didn't put the Bengals in panic mode.

He's going to be more than fine replacement for Benson.  Total grinder.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 11:22:21 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Didn't realize until this morning that BJGE nearly broke 100 yards rushing last night. 

Considering he had close to 70 yards and a TD in the first half, hell yeah, and he would've done more damage if those two quick scores from the TD and Ed's pick didn't put the Bengals in panic mode.

He's going to be more than fine replacement for Benson.  Total grinder.

He's a step faster than Benson, at least tries a little harder to block when needed, and can actually be used to catch the ball in some cases (very rare quality for a Bengals RB).  Benson was one-dimensional-- he could run about 3 yards and fall down.  He was utterly useless in many game situations last year.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 11:24:47 AM
That little slot receiver they have is going to be a nightmare.  Get that kid the ball whenever possible.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: FunkMonk on September 11, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: frunk on September 11, 2012, 10:39:10 AM
Oh good, I lost because my opponent's kicker had an 18 point game on Monday night.  Bah.

I went to bed before the late game last night thinking I lost. :lol:

Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 11:24:47 AM
That little slot receiver they have is going to be a nightmare.  Get that kid the ball whenever possible.

He's retired safety Artrell Hawkins's brother Andrew, aka Baby Hawk.  He's a great situational receiver and can shred on those little routes where he can have a guy or two blocking for him.  I think they had to start throwing to him last night because Green was covered so well and Gresham seemed to show little interest in catching the ball.

He has his own cult following here.  I'm a bit of a fan.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Neil on September 11, 2012, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Didn't realize until this morning that BJGE nearly broke 100 yards rushing last night. 

Considering he had close to 70 yards and a TD in the first half, hell yeah, and he would've done more damage if those two quick scores from the TD and Ed's pick didn't put the Bengals in panic mode.

He's going to be more than fine replacement for Benson.  Total grinder.
And the right side of that line just makes him so much better.  Andre Smith is looking like he's the player they thought he could be when they drafted him, and that Zeitler kid had a pretty good first game run blocking.  It's almost like Ogden and Mulitalo out there.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 11, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 10:33:43 AM
3 points, BA.  You fucker.
:cool:  I left a lot of points on the bench, too.  Maybe this year I'll be given an over-achieving team in terms of wins compared to talent to make up for lat year's amazing team that always matched up against other team's best weeks.  Maybe.  The Football Gods are fickle, and their younger generation, the Fantasy Football Gods are even more so.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 11, 2012, 03:12:11 PM
Pretty poor showing by my FF team, I was the lowest scoring team in the league.  Hopefully I can turn it around against the Danes this week.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Alcibiades on September 11, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
The recap for the matchups by yahoo is pretty fucking neat.  Just saying.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: sbr on September 11, 2012, 04:11:23 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on September 11, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
The recap for the matchups by yahoo is pretty fucking neat.  Just saying.

That is pretty neat, I hadn't noticed it before.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on September 11, 2012, 03:57:28 PM
The recap for the matchups by yahoo is pretty fucking neat.  Just saying.

:lol: Those fuckers.

QuoteIn spite of finishing with just the 14th-highest point total in the league this week, York White Boars (1-0, 81 points) found a way to sneak by Penn State Day Care, 81 - 78. It was a frustrating outing for Penn State Day Care, who fell to 0-1 (78 points) while also ending up 16th in points. Ray Rice was the leading scorer for York White Boars this week with 19 points.

York White Boars Smooth Moves

    Brandon LaFell, who was picked up by York White Boars, scored 12 points against a projected 4.34, topping his projection by 176.5%.
    The 19 points scored by Ray Rice was the second-highest score of any RB in the league this week.
    Jacob Tamme exceeded scoring projections by 112.1%, with 13 points against a projected 6.13.
    York White Boars was still able to pull out a win with only 4 of their 10 starters exceeding their projected points.
    Both of the RBs starting for York White Boars exceeded their point expectations.

Penn State Day Care Regret Tracker

    Left Stephen Hill on the bench, where he scored 21 points to beat his scoring projection by 536.4%, the seventh-highest percentage in the league.
    6 of the starters on Penn State Day Care scored less than their projected points.
    With 2 points versus a projected 9.05, Mason Crosby scored only 22.1% of his projected point total.
    All three of the starting RBs scored below their projected points.
    With 78 points from their starters and 46.00 total points left on the bench, Penn State Day Care had the worst starter/bench scoring ratio in the league this week.

It's as if Trent Dilfer, Jaws and Boomer are rubbing it your face themselves.  :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Sophie Scholl on September 11, 2012, 04:35:06 PM
I had 44 on the bench.  Let's just agree we both sucked, with my team sucking just a bit less. :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: katmai on September 11, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
QuoteMatt Ryan led the league in scoring with 36 points.
Picked up Shayne Graham, who scored 13 points, beating his 8.54-point projection by 52.2%.
Rob Gronkowski had the second-highest TE score in the league this week with 15 points.
6 of the 10 starters on Frozen Wetbacks exceeded their projected points.
Starter Michael Floyd put up a zero, but Frozen Wetbacks still won.
[\quote]
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 11, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
If they could just automate our trash-talking we'd be set.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: FunkMonk on September 11, 2012, 07:02:51 PM
QuoteMeatheads got 20 points from Alex Smith and 18 from Nate Kaeding, defeating Fricken Lasers 99 - 91. Meatheads came into the Monday night game facing a 6-point deficit, but scored 18, picking up an unlikely win as an 18-point underdog. Each team hit their projections but Meatheads put up 42.4% more than a projected 69.54 points to get the win. Fricken Lasers was led by Brandon Marshall with 20 points and Michael Vick who scored 17. With Beanie Wells delivering zero points for Meatheads, the gap could have been wider. Meatheads starts the season with a 1-0 record, good enough for fifth place. Fricken Lasers opens at 0-1 and in 12th place.

Meatheads Smooth Moves

Added Alfred Morris, who exceeded his scoring projection by a matchup-leading 684.3%.
Picked up Nate Kaeding, who scored 18 points, beating his 7.80-point projection by 130.8%.
Alex Smith led the matchup in scoring with 20 points.
Pierre Garcon ranked 10th in the league in scoring among WRs this week with 15 points.
Meatheads saw the majority of their starters (6 of 10) beat their projected point total.

Sorry frunk.  :yeah:

"Army Pukes a-go-go" forward against Meh Dinks!
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Grey Fox on September 11, 2012, 07:35:52 PM
About my opponent :

QuoteOchocinco EightSixed Regret Tracker
•Did not start Scott Chandler, who scored 11 points, surpassing his projected points by 315.1%, the ninth-highest percentage in the league.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 12, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
Wooh! :yeah:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
1   Patriots   
2   49ers
3   Ravens
4   Texans
5   Packers
6   Falcons
7   Giants
8      Bears
9   Broncos
10   Cowboys
11   Steelers
12    Eagles
13   Lions
14   Chargers
15   Redskins
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on September 12, 2012, 09:44:17 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 12, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
Wooh! :yeah:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
1   Patriots   
2   49ers
3   Ravens
4   Texans
5   Packers
6   Falcons
7   Giants
8      Bears
9   Broncos
10   Cowboys
11   Steelers
12    Eagles
13   Lions
14   Chargers
15   Redskins

Yes, I look forward to the Harbowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: derspiess on September 12, 2012, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 12, 2012, 03:07:10 AM
Wooh! :yeah:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
1   Patriots   
2   49ers
3   Ravens
4   Texans
5   Packers
6   Falcons
7   Giants
8      Bears
9   Broncos
10   Cowboys
11   Steelers
12    Eagles
13   Lions
14   Chargers
15   Redskins


FFS Tim, save some for later.  Power rankings after week 1 mean jack squat.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: frunk on September 12, 2012, 10:20:51 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on September 11, 2012, 07:02:51 PM

Sorry frunk.  :yeah:

"Army Pukes a-go-go" forward against Meh Dinks!

It's ok, I was surprised that Vick still managed 17 points despite throwing 4 interceptions.
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 12, 2012, 06:38:58 PM
I'm glad I missed the Bungles game. SAME OLD BUNGLES.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 12, 2012, 08:25:13 PM
Remember Rae Carruth? A story on the kid that survived:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/thomas_lake/09/07/rae-carruth/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a2

Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 12, 2012, 08:26:30 PM
Goddamn, was it really 13 years ago?
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: Ed Anger on September 12, 2012, 08:29:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 12, 2012, 08:26:30 PM
Goddamn, was it really 13 years ago?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I5tE87fuQA

:whistle:
Title: Re: NFL 2012 Week 1: The Day The Refereeing Died
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 12, 2012, 08:30:47 PM
Steve Harvey fucking rocks.