QuoteAFC WILD-CARD ROUND
SATURDAY, JAN. 7
No. 6 Cincinnati (9-7) at No. 3 Houston (10-6), 4:30 ET (NBC)
Reliant Stadium
SUNDAY, JAN. 8
No. 5 Pittsburgh (12-4) at No. 4 Denver (8-8), 4:30 ET (CBS)
Sports Authority Field at Mile High
AFC DIVISIONAL ROUND
SATURDAY, JAN. 14
Lowest remaining seed at No. 1 New England (13-3), 8 ET (CBS)
Gillette Stadium
SUNDAY, JAN. 15
Highest remaining seed at No. 2 Baltimore (12-4), 1 ET (CBS)
M&T Bank Stadium
NFC WILD-CARD ROUND
SATURDAY, JAN. 7
No. 6 Detroit (10-6) at No. 3 New Orleans (13-3), 8 ET (NBC)
Mercedes-Benz Superdome
SUNDAY, JAN. 8
No. 5 Atlanta (10-6) at No. 4 N.Y. Giants (9-7), 1 ET (FOX)
MetLife Stadium
NFC DIVISIONAL ROUND
SATURDAY Jan. 14
Highest remaining seed at No. 2 San Francisco (13-3), 4:30 ET (FOX)
Candlestick Park
SUNDAY, JAN. 15
Lowest remaining seed at No. 1 Green Bay (15-1), 4:30 ET (FOX)
Lambeau Field
The initial lines in Vegas from late last night I'm finding are:
Texans -3 (Over/Under 39)
Pittsburgh Steelers -7.5 (Over/Under 35)
New Orleans Saints -10.5 (Over/Under 58.5 :lol:)
New York Giants -3 (Over/Under 49)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 06:36:34 AM
Pittsburgh Steelers -7.5 (Over/Under 35)
I'm finding some sites have the Steelers at -9. Vegas, the modern Sodom, definitely has no love for Tebow.
They have figured out how to stop that one dimensional hack.
Quote from: katmai on January 02, 2012, 06:56:08 AM
They have figured out how to stop that one dimensional hack.
Alas, Tebow Magic seems to be tapped out. Must be a warm weather thing. You can't put up more than 3 against KC going into the playoffs, you got problems.
Mendenhall or not, Steelheads aren't going to miss a beat with Redmon and Clay.
Edit: Report: Steelers RB Mendenhall has torn ACL
Important NFL news: Blitz 2012 comes out on the 4th, and it's from EA, so they have the license back.
$15 on the PS3 Network, 1200 Microsoft Points or whatever on the 360.
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Big head mode, zombies, dudes on fire. Yes.
Texans
Steelers
Saints
Giants.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 02, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 02, 2012, 11:01:53 AM
Giants.
Boo. Hiss.
Sorry, but the Falcons suck outside a dome. That's why they'll never make it to the Superbowl.
The Falcons have made it to the Super Bowl before, Neil.
Quote from: ulmont on January 02, 2012, 02:12:50 PM
The Falcons have made it to the Super Bowl before, Neil.
Yeah, but it'll never happen again, and even when it did happen, it represented the utter and complete collapse of the NFC as a competitive conference (with one exception, and even that had an asterisk) until the Giants toppled the Cheatriots.
The Colts also butchered their front office, but their shortbus coach remains unfired. I guess somebody's head had to roll for losing all those games after losing the greatest QB in the history of the NFL.
Well, maybe Johnny U and Drew Brees should be in that conversation, but the point stands.
Bucs fired Rahim Morris. Not surprising at all.
Quote from: Neil on January 02, 2012, 05:47:32 PM
The Colts also butchered their front office, but their shortbus coach remains unfired. I guess somebody's head had to roll for losing all those games after losing the greatest QB in the history of the NFL.
Well, maybe Johnny U and Drew Brees should be in that conversation, but the point stands.
Tressel4coach.
And Norv Turner still has a job. :rolleyes:
I thought Norv's position wasn't decided yet?
Quote from: ulmont on January 02, 2012, 07:46:41 PM
I thought Norv's position wasn't decided yet?
The Chargers really have to stop with hiring coaches the Redskins fired.
Quote from: sbr on January 02, 2012, 07:25:33 PM
And Norv Turner still has a job. :rolleyes:
But he finished so strong! Surely he couldn't possibly repeat the unmotivated, soft, no-heart start and wasting of enormous amounts of talent that have dogged him just about every year of his coaching career?
If the Chargers can fire a 14-2 coach, they can keep Norv. They deserve the fate they get.
Quote from: Neil on January 02, 2012, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 02, 2012, 07:25:33 PM
And Norv Turner still has a job. :rolleyes:
But he finished so strong! Surely he couldn't possibly repeat the unmotivated, soft, no-heart start and wasting of enormous amounts of talent that have dogged him just about every year of his coaching career?
Losing their first playoff game with the most talented roster in the league was one thing. Missing the playoffs in a year when a below average team with a historically bad QB wins the AFC West is another thing.
If the Bengals lose at Houston, it won't be for a lack of motivation.
I stood in the back of the locker room after Sunday's game to hear what Marvin had to to say. He started out with his usual post-loss spiel about removing your head from your ass, only intending to play the players who "really wanted to play", etc. but then seemlessly transitioned into congratulating them for making the playoffs and on the season as a whole. The overall mood in the office was celebratory-- I had a couple coaches even come by & thank me for my "efforts" (which for most of the season consisted of labeling video prints & stuffing them in binders).
Anyway, my main takeaway was that the players were really stoked about getting another shot at Houston, given how their regular season game went. Just wish I could get my project at work postponed so I could make the trip.
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I could be in the NFL :showoff:
So, the Chargers have confirmed that the same choke artists will be retained at GM and head coach.
So Forbes wrote this article about Daniel Snyder: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/01/02/the-seven-habits-of-spectacularly-unsuccessful-executives/
I did appreciate how they tried to pretend it was about other executives.
1) They see themselves and their companies as dominating their environment
2) They identify so completely with the company that there is no clear boundary between their personal interests and their corporation's interests
3) They think they have all the answers
4) They ruthlessly eliminate anyone who isn't completely behind them
5) They are consummate spokespersons, obsessed with the company image
6) They underestimate obstacles
7) They stubbornly rely on what worked for them in the past
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 09:57:55 AM
So Forbes wrote this article about Daniel Snyder: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericjackson/2012/01/02/the-seven-habits-of-spectacularly-unsuccessful-executives/
I did appreciate how they tried to pretend it was about other executives.
1) They see themselves and their companies as dominating their environment
2) They identify so completely with the company that there is no clear boundary between their personal interests and their corporation's interests
3) They think they have all the answers
4) They ruthlessly eliminate anyone who isn't completely behind them
5) They are consummate spokespersons, obsessed with the company image
6) They underestimate obstacles
7) They stubbornly rely on what worked for them in the past
In the context of owning the Redskins, what has
ever worked for Snyder in the past?
Quote from: dps on January 04, 2012, 12:13:24 PM
In the context of owning the Redskins, what has ever worked for Snyder in the past?
His business model for one: just keep charging more. As for his football "management" he keeps trying to recreate what George Allen and Bobby Beathard did to create the teams he grew up rooting for in the 70s and 80s. Because the league has not changed at all since then...
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: dps on January 04, 2012, 12:13:24 PM
In the context of owning the Redskins, what has ever worked for Snyder in the past?
His business model for one: just keep charging more. As for his football "management" he keeps trying to recreate what George Allen and Bobby Beathard did to create the teams he grew up rooting for in the 70s and 80s. Because the league has not changed at all since then...
Well, there's a difference between bringing in a lot of tough-minded veterans and a bunch of veteran whiners.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 02, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
If the Chargers can fire a 14-2 coach, they can keep Norv. They deserve the fate they get.
QFT. Marty wuz robbed.
Quote from: dps on January 04, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
Well, there's a difference between bringing in a lot of tough-minded veterans and a bunch of veteran whiners.
The biggest difference is no salary cap back then, and an owner who enjoyed losing money on his hobby.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
The biggest difference is no salary cap back then, and an owner who enjoyed losing money on his hobby.
Yep. No way Allen or Beathard would try to do what they did today. And naturally Snyder lacks the eye for talent and character those two guys had.
Quote from: Valmy on January 04, 2012, 01:45:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
The biggest difference is no salary cap back then, and an owner who enjoyed losing money on his hobby.
Yep. No way Allen or Beathard would try to do what they did today. And naturally Snyder lacks the eye for talent and character those two guys had.
All snarkiness and differences (real or perceived) in eras aside, the real difference is in you last sentence.
Quote from: dps on January 04, 2012, 02:31:30 PM
All snarkiness and differences (real or perceived) in eras aside, the real difference is in you last sentence.
And they were professionals with years of experience in football. Snyder is a complete amateur fanboy. At least Jerry Jones played football.
Okay, my picks:
Bengals (sure I'm a homer but Houston has lost three straight)
Falcons (the Giants have been hot, but they still have too many holes)
Steelers (I think it will actually be fairly close)
Saints (won't be close)
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Steelers (I think it will actually be fairly close)
16-0. 3 field goals and a pick 6 for Pittsburgh.
Quote from: ulmont on January 05, 2012, 02:11:19 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Steelers (I think it will actually be fairly close)
16-0. 3 field goals and a pick 6 for Pittsburgh.
That's conventional wisdom, yes. But weird things always happen on Wild Card weekend.
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Okay, my picks:
Bengals (sure I'm a homer but Houston has lost three straight)
Falcons (the Giants have been hot, but they still have too many holes)
Steelers (I think it will actually be fairly close)
Saints (won't be close)
Same.
Texans
Giants
Steelers
Saints
Bengals
Giants
Steelers
Saints (although the Lions would make me way, way happier)
Quote from: derspiess on January 05, 2012, 01:49:44 PM
Okay, my picks:
Bengals (sure I'm a homer but Houston has lost three straight)
Falcons (the Giants have been hot, but they still have too many holes)
Steelers (I think it will actually be fairly close)
Saints (won't be close)
Bengals (I think the Texans have run out of players to sacrifice for a win)
Falcons (see common games with the Giants below)
Steelers (the Broncos could only put up 3 points on the Chiefs)
I refuse to speculate about the Saints-Lions game in memory of 1/8/2011 (never forget!).
Falcons / Giants games against common opponents:
Falcons
Eagles W 35-31
Seahawks W 30-28
Packers L 14-25
Saints L 23-26 (OT)
Saints L 16-45
Giants
Eagles W 29-16
Eagles L 10-17
Seahawks L 25-36
Saints L 24-49
Packers L 35-38
I am willing to admit that the Bengals could beat the Texans. Yates has been looking a little shaky, and the Bengals D is no pushover. I think that the teams are closely matched in most respects, but that the superior Texans running game will allow them to win.
As for the Giants-Falcons, I'm taking a chance that Eli won't have one of his down games and that the pressure from the Giants line can cover up the inability of their secondary to cover anyone.
Quote from: ulmont on January 05, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
I refuse to speculate about the Saints-Lions game in memory of 1/8/2011 (never forget!).
It's a whole different game going into Seattle than it is playing in the Superdome. Well, it's actually the same thing: Both the Saints and the Seahawks are much better teams at home.
Quote from: Neil on January 05, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
As for the Giants-Falcons, I'm taking a chance that Eli won't have one of his down games and that the pressure from the Giants line can cover up the inability of their secondary to cover anyone.
Plus the inability of the LBs to stop the run.
As much as I want the Giants to win, I have to admit the Falcons match up quite well against them.
What you say is right - the reconstituted line has to force enough losses to keep the point count down within a range that Eli can keep up (accounting for the inevitable drops from the WRs).
If they can keep it close Eli can probably pull it out but Ryan is no slouch as a late game QB either.
Bigger problem is even if they win they have to figure out how to stop the Pack. Which they can't.
Quote from: Neil on January 05, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
I am willing to admit that the Bengals could beat the Texans. Yates has been looking a little shaky, and the Bengals D is no pushover. I think that the teams are closely matched in most respects, but that the superior Texans running game will allow them to win.
Yeah, I think this one is pretty much a tossup. At this point, I'm not really worried about it W or L, and am just along for the ride. I hope Yates is okay, and he gets back to slingin it like he was his first couple of games. Houston is actually getting players
back for this one, instead of losing them (Andre Johnson will play a full game, Mike Brisiel, the G who broke his leg and who's backup hasn't been playing very well), so that helps. They need to break this trend of not really scoring points though. They managed more than 21 last week against the Titans for the first time since Schaub went down, but only 7 came with Yates in the game (although he looked good despite the shoulder, and that was only one drive so you can't ask for more).
Reliant is going to be fucking crazy, hopefully more so than even against the Falcons, and that was really messing with Matt Ryan, so that helps too. I was entertained by the volume going up noticeably, from loud to camera shaking, when D players were waving for more noise while Ryan was trying to audible.
Wish I could have gone over there for this one. Houston playoff football. :cry: It's been a long time.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 05, 2012, 07:00:34 PM
Bigger problem is even if they win they have to figure out how to stop the Pack. Which they can't.
One game at a time.
I got a small playoff bonus, lol. Considering that for half the games I worked I just stuffed video prints into binders, the principle of that cracks me up.
Bengals
Gints
Steelheads
Saints
Tom Hammond doesn't look human, I miss Falkeøje and NFLming, but they haven't commentated the playoffs in years. :(
:blink: Arian Foster needs to calm down.
Quote from: Liep on January 07, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
Tom Hammond doesn't look human, I miss Falkeøje and NFLming, but they haven't commentated the playoffs in years. :(
Yeah he looks really weird.
NFLming?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 07, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
:blink: Arian Foster needs to calm down.
Yeah, the Texans as a whole need to calm down.
And yes, that Hammond fellow looks like he's made out of tissue paper and marshmellows.
I recommend that foster stop fumbling. Maybe I'll send a text message to Kubiak.
Yeah, like that.
:) He did his Hakeem Olajuwon "tribute."
ooooOOOOooooooh, TeeeeeeeEEEEbooow!
(Here's hoping the Savior can keep languish alive through the playoff)
Those who doubted the Texans made a mistake. They dominated the Bengals, top to bottom.
The Saints game was as expected and surprisingly boring. The Detroit defence didn't make any plays at all, they just allowed Brees to dismantle them.
The Giants beat the Falcons as expected, and Eli can tell the punditry to eat shit. Sure, I was thinking 'Same old Giants' when the offence was stalling in the beginning, but they really got it together, and the Falcons had yet another postseason meltdown. That too was expected.
As for the Steelers, well that's a little bit funny. I was worried about their crippled offence causing them problems, but it turns out that even Tebow will make plays if you play him like he can't throw at all.
Quote from: Valmy on January 05, 2012, 03:43:50 PM
Texans
Giants
Steelers
Saints
Well things went basically according to plan except for the Steelers being shelled by long bombs.
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2012, 11:53:01 AM
Sure, I was thinking 'Same old Giants' when the offence was stalling in the beginning, but they really got it together, and the Falcons had yet another postseason meltdown.
The Giants running game, last seen on December 2010 drunk and staggering a couple miles away from Newark Airport, was unexpectedly discovered in the Lost and Found Department of the Port Authority Bus Terminal, and delivered to the Meadowlands just in time for the second quarter.
Quote from: Neil on January 09, 2012, 11:53:01 AM
Those who doubted the Texans made a mistake. They dominated the Bengals, top to bottom.
Yep. Ironically what started me worrying was when the Bengals scored first. For whatever reason that tends to wake the other team up and then all hell breaks loose.
QuoteThe Saints game was as expected and surprisingly boring. The Detroit defence didn't make any plays at all, they just allowed Brees to dismantle them.
I would normally prefer seeing the Saints lose, but I needed that game to salvage one correct pick out of the four.
QuoteThe Giants beat the Falcons as expected, and Eli can tell the punditry to eat shit. Sure, I was thinking 'Same old Giants' when the offence was stalling in the beginning, but they really got it together, and the Falcons had yet another postseason meltdown. That too was expected.
Most of the stuff I heard last week was overwhelmingly pro-Giants. I guess I should've remembered not to bet against Eli when the chips are down.
QuoteAs for the Steelers, well that's a little bit funny. I was worried about their crippled offence causing them problems, but it turns out that even Tebow will make plays if you play him like he can't throw at all.
That was a hell of a game, and I was happy to be wrong in picking the Steelers (in fairness I should get a half point though for saying it'd be close).
Was pleased to see the Steelheads get beat. I thought they were going to win right at the end. They should have tried for a field goal.
Fuck Marvin Lewis. Fuck the damn Bengals. MOTHERFUCKING COCKSTAINS.
TBone did make some nice deep passes.
That Broncos game was entertaining as hell!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 09, 2012, 06:37:18 PM
That Broncos game was entertaining as hell!
Just wait until they smoke the Gaytiots.
I hope Tom Brady gets sacked so hard he flies out of bounds and smashes into Tim Tebow, killing them both.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on January 09, 2012, 08:21:35 PM
I hope Tom Brady gets sacked so hard he flies out of bounds and smashes into Tim Tebow, killing them both.
:lol:
I was laughing like a crazy person during that Broncos OT TD.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 09, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
TBone did make some nice deep passes.
That was what he was best at in College as well (well when he wasn't doing a battering ram impression).
Quote from: Valmy on January 10, 2012, 09:12:34 AM
That was what he was best at in College as well (well when he wasn't doing a battering ram impression).
Reminded me a little of Mark Rypien. So so quarterback with an ungodly touch on the long ball.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 10, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
Reminded me a little of Mark Rypien. So so quarterback with an ungodly touch on the long ball.
:wub:
It was so weird in 1993 the Skins decided to try a west coast offense...with Rypien as QB. No wonder they went 3-13 and have never had a decent QB since.
RGIII is entering the draft, according to "a family source."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7447477/2012-nfl-draft-qb-robert-griffin-iii-telling-baylor-bears-going-pro
Big surprise there.
Hue "The Ego" Jackson out in Oakland. I am: Pleased. :)
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on January 10, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Hue "The Ego" Jackson out in Oakland. I am: Pleased. :)
I don't see why. A new head coach every year is a pretty bad way to run an organization, even one as sick from top to bottom as the Raiders.
It's like Al Davis left the controlling interest in the Raiders to his ghost or something.
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2012, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on January 10, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Hue "The Ego" Jackson out in Oakland. I am: Pleased. :)
I don't see why. A new head coach every year is a pretty bad way to run an organization, even one as sick from top to bottom as the Raiders.
It's like Al Davis left the controlling interest in the Raiders to his ghost or something.
Who is in charge of the Raiders now? I've heard nothing on the subject.
Reggie McKenzie was hired by Mark Davis, Al's son. McKenzie came from the Packers organization. As to Jackson, the guy is an egomaniac who I wanted to be appointed de facto gm or be able to pick the gm if one goes by what he had said. He acted as the gm after Al's death, and look what it got the Raiders: No playoffs, no draft picks, Carson Palmer, and TJ Houshmanzadeh. Awesome job, Hue. The team set an NFL record for penalties and penalty yardage, had numerous second half collapses, and just an overall lack of discipline. That's all on Hue. Throw in his massive ego, rumors of losing the locker room, and the incompetence of the defense and the total failure of his "We're going to build a bully" plan, and I don't see how you can keep him on board. The franchise needs to be gutted of dead weight and problems from the top down, and I think this was a great first step. The team needs less ego and rash, brash decision making, not more. I believe stability is needed, but with the right guy at the helm. The same thing with Cleveland. I liked Mangini there. I thought he had a legit plan and was making some strides after clearing the dead wood. Now Holmgren is ruining it all and setting them backward and down a path to failure. I don't want Oakland to do the same thing.
Don't the Raiders set a new record for penalty yardage every year?
Quote from: dps on January 10, 2012, 06:34:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 10, 2012, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on January 10, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Hue "The Ego" Jackson out in Oakland. I am: Pleased. :)
I don't see why. A new head coach every year is a pretty bad way to run an organization, even one as sick from top to bottom as the Raiders.
It's like Al Davis left the controlling interest in the Raiders to his ghost or something.
Who is in charge of the Raiders now? I've heard nothing on the subject.
I believe a son of his.
I was watching the local sports news; apparently one of the refs involved in breaking up a fight between the Ravens and the Steelers during the big beat down of Week 1 called the players involved--for the Ravens, Michael Oher and Matt Birk--for saving his life; seems that when he was following up on the concussion he received from hitting the turf, the docs discovered very early stage throat cancer. If it wasn't for the fight, he would've never found out.
Ricky seems to have finally found a place where he's comfortable in the NFL:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_ricky_williams_ravens_010912
QuoteBALTIMORE – Ricky Williams sits alone.
Inside the Baltimore Ravens' locker room the air is alive. Players argue about a bean-bag toss game they play after practices, then mock a teammate who has inexplicably decided to do an interview naked. Music thumps. Giant men laugh, and their laughter rattles off cinder block walls in the symphony of a football team that feels invincible.
Only Ricky Williams sits alone.
He is huddled on a stool in front of his locker, sweat clothes on, ready to leave. It's a strange image, loaded with contrasts. He doesn't belong here, not with these men, many of whom are almost 10 years younger than him. And yet he feels very much at home. He isn't the star on this team, which is two wins from the Super Bowl. The bulk of the offense is carried by Ray Rice, an effusive bowling ball of a man who in the spirit of running backs relishes the chance to run the ball 25 times a game. Williams is an afterthought, a backup who has carried the ball more than 12 times in only one game this season. Often he might have the ball in his hands on only four or five plays, and this is fine with him. In fact he prefers it. His body has absorbed enough beatings for one lifetime. Let someone else get the pain.
"How many 34-year-old running backs do you see still playing football?" asks Williams, whose Ravens take on the Houston Texans in Sunday's AFC divisional playoff game.
He gazes around the room, at unfamiliar faces and at a scene that isn't him, certainly not now, not as the end of his football life beckons. He's here because he isn't ready to give up the game, because there is still a private joy in walking into a room like this, pulling on pads and standing on a Sunday sideline. The Ravens and the Detroit Lions were the only teams to call when football started again after the lockout, and he picked the Ravens because they have a reputation for treating players well and they stood the best chance of going to the Super Bowl. He wants to play in a Super Bowl because he has lived overseas and all people abroad know about American football is the Super Bowl. When he tells them he plays football, they ask if he played in a Super Bowl.
Williams talks a lot about "quality of life" and being happy in his place, something he never seemed to be in Miami or New Orleans where he was a star. On the last game of the regular season he rushed for his 10,000th yard. It's something only 26 men have done and it speaks to a certain commitment as a player even if Williams shrugs it off as something he will "think about later."
After the game, Rice told the team about the accomplishment. The players clapped. They chanted "Ricky! Ricky! Ricky!" and asked him to stand up and make a speech.
"It was really a neat moment," coach John Harbaugh said. "We caught each other's eye there for a moment. It's hard to explain how valuable those [instances] are."
As for the speech the players called for?
"He did not provide one," Harbaugh said.
How do you bond with a teammate who was still in junior high school when you were on a magazine cover standing with Mike Ditka and wearing a wedding dress? Williams is friendly with the other Ravens players but there isn't a great connection. He lives downtown with a pile of books he brought out of storage because he doesn't really have a permanent home. His hero is early 20th century Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung. He knows he doesn't exactly fit and yet he seems to fit perfectly. It's just another contrast of Williams' career – the one in which he can run for 10,000 yards despite missing two years in the middle after positive tests for marijuana chased him off the field.
On another team, one with greater expectations for him, he might be uncomfortable. But the Ravens' locker room is always carefree and Harbaugh has a boyish enthusiasm. Everybody seems secure. The coaches don't yell much. And that fits Williams at this point in his life. Here he is content to fade into the background.
"I do feel like a loner but I think it's because I look at things differently than other people," he says. "There's a quote out of Carl Jung's autobiography and ... he's talking about when he was a kid and he saw a pattern when he was a kid of aloneness and separateness because he sees things that most people don't and he wants to talk about them, but most people don't.
"And so I kind of feel like that. When you look at the world like that, especially as a football player, chances are you aren't going to find a lot of people to relate to."
When football is over Williams wants to be a psychiatrist. Maybe this is a remnant of his past and the diagnosis, a few years ago, of his social anxiety disorder. He says that because he was an education major at the University of Texas, he has been taking math and science courses in the offseason in preparation for an attempt to get into medical school. He doesn't know how long it will take to get there mainly because he isn't sure he is ready to leave football. It could be after this season, but more likely he wants to play at least one more year. He's still having fun. And he feels "explosive" when he runs. If he didn't have that sense of speed he would be gone by now.
The only time teammates seem to approach him at this point is when they begin to the see the end of their own careers. He recognizes the look in their eyes, the panic that comes from facing a truth that they won't be able to do the only thing they have known. They have heard the same stories all football players hear, that the first two years after football are the worst, and they wonder how Williams has peace. They wonder if they can handle what is about to happen.
"I don't feel [the fear]," Williams says. "I was talking to my doctor about this the other day. And because I have found something that I love and that I want to do when I'm done I'm sure I'm going to miss it, but because I've been able to look that monster in the face I'll be better prepared. Some people are afraid of it so they try to delay it as long as they can."
For now, he will stay with football, a game that has infused and tormented him so much in the past. He doesn't fit the box the game makes all the players squeeze inside, but the Ravens aren't trying to box him. They leave him alone. He can be whatever he wants just as long as he's there to spell Rice when the situation demands.
He smiles. For a moment the thoughts of a career almost over flash before him: the fiasco of his draft, Ditka and the Saints, the trade to Miami, the suspension, the years away, the headlines, the debate, the cheers, the scorn. All of it.
"Sometimes I look back and I cringe because I didn't realize the situation I was in at the time because I was inside it," he says. "I think I have a tendency to look at things subjectively rather than objectively when I reflect on my experience. It was a wonderful time and I learned a lot but from the outside – yeah – it was kind of a roller coaster."
Then he remembers something John Mackovic, his coach at Texas, said when he told him he was staying for his senior year. "Don't ever have any regrets," Mackovic said. "Make a decision and stick with it."
Williams nods. No regrets for a non-conformist not quite fitting in a league that demands little original thought. He glances around the room again. A group of teammates are yelling about something. No one seems quite sure what it is, but they are smiling, their shouts are all you can hear.
Silently, Ricky Williams picks up his backpack and heads for the door.
Ricky is a good guy. I used to be sorta down on him for abandoning his kids but he is back raising them and working hard at his profession. Glad he is going out in style.
Go Ravens. Hopefully he will get his wish and play in the Super Bowl.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 10, 2012, 10:36:20 PM
I believe a son of his.
I heard him, Mark Davis I think, speak on the radio tonight actually. He definitely sounds like a younger version of Al...in how he sounded not what he said I mean.
Quote from: Valmy on January 11, 2012, 12:00:48 AM
Ricky is a good guy. I used to be sorta down on him for abandoning his kids but he is back raising them and working hard at his profession. Glad he is going out in style.
Go Ravens. Hopefully he will get his wish and play in the Super Bowl.
He has a Monday night talk show on 105.7 here in Mobtown, where they broadcast from a local sports bar. Sometimes he shows up, sometimes he doesn't. :lol: He is a unique snowflake, and they love him here.
Even though I felt McGahee still had a lot more left in the tank--and he does, look at his stats in Denver--Ricky's been a trade-up, both in talent and attitude.
Yeah, Willis still had starter juice left in him, which is why it was right for him to go ply his trade in Denver. Being backup suits Ricky just fine.
:D
QuoteJohn Parr has updated his 1985 #1 hit "St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion)" to honor Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gAIQWzW1MIc
Tim TeBowie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMys2BCuEb8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMys2BCuEb8)
Quote from: citizen k on January 13, 2012, 04:22:21 AM
Tim TeBowie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMys2BCuEb8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMys2BCuEb8)
That's great. :lol:
:D
Hey Wade Phillips pulled out of the running for the Bucs HC job, and isn't going to be meeting with them today. :) The Texans still have a DC for next season (for the moment)!
Edit: Links:
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl/120112-wade-phillips-chooses-not-to-interview-with-tampa-bay
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825f1820/article/texans-phillips-pulls-out-as-candidate-to-be-bucs-head-coach?module=HP11_headline_stack
Quote from: citizen k on January 13, 2012, 04:22:21 AM
Tim TeBowie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMys2BCuEb8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMys2BCuEb8)
Better link here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHB0o9lCizQ
Bengals are getting Jay Gruden back on a 3-year contract extension. I was getting worried that one of the coachless NFL teams in Florida would pull the trigger & hire him. Funny how he went from being a questionable (if not ridiculed) hire to head coaching prospect in less than a year.
Zimmer interviewed with Miami and/or Tampa Bay & although it doesn't look like he has the inside track on either. While I hope he stays here for a bit, the silver lining would be that the door would open for Mark Duffner to return as Defensive Coordinator.
The team inexplicably let LB coach Jeff FitzGerald go earlier this week. Fitzie was a little crazy, but the good kind of crazy. He was the Ravens LB coach in '06 when they had 4 Pro Bowl LBs and I think has done a great job developing Maualuga and Skuta here. As intense as he was when dealing with the players, he always treated the video staff well-- he was certainly patient with me.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 13, 2012, 09:17:06 AM
Hey Wade Phillips pulled out of the running for the Bucs HC job, and isn't going to be meeting with them today. :) The Texans still have a DC for next season (for the moment)!
That would have been a horrible hire for the Bucs. They need a hardass not a players coach.
Jaws endorses Flacco.
QuoteMonday Night Football analyst Ron Jaworski still lives in New Jersey and is friendly with Delaware football coach K.C. Keeler, so it is fair to say that the former NFL quarterback has closely followed the growth and development of Ravens' signal caller, Joe Flacco, a Garden State native and a former Blue Hen.
Jaworski has seen both the good and bad from Flacco, and firmly believes that the fourth-year quarterback hasn't peaked.
"I think Joe has as much natural, God-given talent as anybody playing the position right now," Jaworski said in a phone interview with The Baltimore Sun Wednesday. "Joe is an outstanding passer, he's mechanically sound. There's no question he is going to get better although in looking at this year, I think there's been a little plateau to his game. I don't think his game elevated as much as I expected it to this year and I think there are a lot of reasons for that."
Jaworski cited the uncertainty of the Ravens' offensive line at the beginning of the season, some changes with the team's offensive schemes, an inexperienced receiving corps and the abbreviated training camp that prevented Flacco from working more with his receivers, like newcomer Lee Evans.
"I think all those things contributed to Joe being flat as far as his development this year," Jaworski said. "I saw Joe improving each and every year as he developed. This year, I would say it's been flat. I haven't seen the quantum leap that I expected, but as I said earlier, I think there have been reasons for that."
One of the big knocks on Flacco this season has been his career-low 57.6 completion percentage this season. Jaworski admits that he's surprised with some of the throws that Flacco has missed.
"Mechanically he's fine, but being totally realistic when I look at these tapes, he's missed some throws that he's got to hit," Jaworski said. "There have been some wildly inaccurate throws and that's uncommon for Joe. I think Joe should be probably be a 62 to 63 percent passer in this style of offense. Normally with quarterbacks like Joe, I'd say you have to be about 67, 68, somewhere in there. He's not in that [Drew] Brees, [Aaron] Rodgers' category where they are up there around 70. This is a downfield passing attack. This is not a dink-and-dunk, bubble-screen style. Yeah, there is a screen game, normally to Ray Rice, but if you look at those guys throwing 70 percent, their passes are behind the line of scrimmage pretty much. This is not the Ravens' style under Cam Cameron. They are more of a shot team, a down-the-field team. Those are not high-completion percentage throws even for the best."
Still, Jaworski vehemently defended Flacco, praising him for his ability, durability and toughness, and wondering why he gets so much criticism both in Baltimore and nationally.
"I'm shocked, literally shocked that Joe hasn't been accepted more and not even in Baltimore for that reason, but around the country," Jaworski said. "What do you hear about [the Denver Broncos'] Tim Tebow right now? Oh, he's a winner. What the hell has Joe Flacco done? Playoff wins, on-the road wins, you have to be kidding me. How can you not respect what this guy has done? Does he have warts? Certainly but all the quarterbacks in this league do."
Jaworski said that Flacco is plenty good enough to lead the Ravens to a Super Bowl. In fact, he believes that the Ravens are in an ideal position to get to Indianapolis.
"I really believe they are in a perfect position right now," he said. "You'd like to maybe have the second game at home and who knows? But you have the Texans coming in with a third-string quarterback and by the way – T.J. Yates, yeah I know, he's a third-string quarterback as a rookie but he's given them some nice consistent play so you want to discount that before you put this one in the 'W' column and I'm sure the Ravens aren't doing that. But I think fans have a tendency to say, 'It's the Texans without [Matt] Schaub, an injured [Andre] Johnson and no Mario Williams.
"They're still a good football team but they got them at home and the Ravens are a tough team to beat at home. Even if New England does win, New England is a beatable football team. They really are. This offense should be able to move the ball against New England up and down the field in my opinion. So I think the stage is set for the Ravens to get back to the Super Bowl."
Quote from: Valmy on January 13, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 13, 2012, 09:17:06 AM
Hey Wade Phillips pulled out of the running for the Bucs HC job, and isn't going to be meeting with them today. :) The Texans still have a DC for next season (for the moment)!
That would have been a horrible hire for the Bucs. They need a hardass not a players coach.
He never impressed me in any of his head coaching gigs. If they need a hardass, Zimmer might be a good fit.
Phillips is the defensive equivalent of Norv Turner.
Jaworski needs to assassinate Gruden so he can go back to what he does best: analyze defenses and offensive reads.
I think Jaworski just needs to be assassinated. Can't stand to hear him speak.
Quote from: Neil on January 13, 2012, 02:45:51 PM
Phillips is the defensive equivalent of Norv Turner.
I'm glad someone made this comparison already.
Alright, so I guess I'm going to pick
Saints - They're just too hot right now. At least this will be a better game than Lions-Saints because the Niners are going to make plays.
Broncos - More a heart pick than a head pick, we know that Brady is bad in the playoffs and that defence and the run game is the Patriots kryptonite.
Ravens - They beat them once when the Texans had their real, Pro-Bowl QB. Why not now?
Packers - Where are the Giants weak? At secondary. Where are the Packers unmatchably strong? Quarterback and wide receiver.
I'll miss 3 games this weekend, but fortunately the one I do get to see is the Broncos game.... :(
Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
I'll miss 3 games this weekend, but fortunately the one I do get to see is the Broncos game.... :(
How are you going to miss the games? Work? Fuck the train, they can walk.
Quote from: Liep on January 14, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
I'll miss 3 games this weekend, but fortunately the one I do get to see is the Broncos game.... :(
Saint Tebow slays the dragon.
You know, it's sorta interesting that the Greatest Question of All--the Judeo-Christian concept of whether or not there is a God--comes down to a football game between the Broncos and the Patriots.
Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total
1/14 4:30 ET New Orleans -3.5 At San Francisco 47
1/14 8:00 ET At New England -13.5 Denver 50.5
1/15 1:00 ET At Baltimore -7.5 Houston 36
1/15 4:30 ET At Green Bay -7.5 NY Giants 53.5
Saints by 10.
Pats by 7.
Balmer by 6.
Packers by 17.
Your ass is crazy if thinking Pack and Saints are winning that big.
Quote from: katmai on January 14, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
Your ass is crazy if thinking Pack anRd Saints are winning that big.
Like Neil said, the Saints are hot right now. And the one time I watched the Niners play their offense looked very...limited.
Giants have a monster D line and not much else. Rodgers is having a celestial highlight reel type of year. I think he's going to shred NY.
Saints
Patroits
Ravens
Giants
Niners 24 Saints 21
Patriots 27 Tebows 13
Ravens 27 Texans 14
Packers 31 Giants 24
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 14, 2012, 12:49:41 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 14, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
Your ass is crazy if thinking Pack anRd Saints are winning that big.
Like Neil said, the Saints are hot right now. And the one time I watched the Niners play their offense looked very...limited.
Saints aren't so hot on Road and will have no rushing offense in this game. Niners at home avg close to 30pts a game.
Quote from: katmai on January 14, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
Saints aren't so hot on Road and will have no rushing offense in this game. Niners at home avg close to 30pts a game.
Saints are giving 3.5. Wanna make it interesting?
Saints
Packers
Patriots
Ravens
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 14, 2012, 12:49:41 PM
Like Neil said, the Saints are hot right now. And the one time I watched the Niners play their offense looked very...limited.
Giants have a monster D line and not much else. Rodgers is having a celestial highlight reel type of year. I think he's going to shred NY.
Sure, but it's not like he runs the ball himself. Jennings is a big part of the steamroller, and we'll have to see if he's still an interception machine with his bum knee.
Jennings is an interception machine? :huh:
Quote from: sbr on January 14, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Saints
Patroits
Ravens
Giants
This. COME ON NEW YORK
Quote from: fahdiz on January 14, 2012, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 14, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
Saints
Patroits
Ravens
Giants
This. COME ON NEW YORK
Nothing would make me happier than a New York win there. But I just don't think they can do it. If their offense takes a quarter to get started, they could already be down 3 touchdowns. Sure, the Packers D is vulnerable, but the Giants would be even worse if they didn't have the best D line in football.
I just don't see the Giants doing it against the Pack. Not at Lambeau, not as inconsistent as they've been.
I agree that the Packers win big.
Now the Saints-Niners? I can see the Niners giving a good game, but New Orleans is playing lights out; and for all the talk about Brees and that passing game, they run the ball hard and have an awesome secondary, and can do it on the road. Right now the Saints are the peaking team, not the Packers.
Broncos/Patriots? Ugh. I don't even want to discuss it.
Texans will give the Ravens everything. I don't expect a big Ravens win, even though they will predicate their game plan on shutting down the run, and making Yates beat them in the air. I just hope Cam Cameron hasn't spent two weeks outfuckingthinking himself, which he often does.
I wouldn't put any money on the Giants, or even pick them in something that mattered, but they are the only underdog with a chance to win. Saints and Patroits win by double digits and the Ravens will do enough to win.
The Giants will pressure Rodgers with the front four and the Pack cannot stop the run at all. The Giants are playing very well and on a roll, and the Pack have had a week off after a rather lackluster end to the season.
Quote from: sbr on January 14, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
the Pack cannot stop the run at all.
They may be soft in the middle but the Giants won't be able to run outside on them.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 14, 2012, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 14, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
the Pack cannot stop the run at all.
They may be soft in the middle but the Giants won't be able to run outside on them.
No need to run outside if they can run up the middle all day.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 03:25:05 PM
I just don't see the Giants doing it against the Pack. Not at Lambeau, not as inconsistent as they've been.
I agree that the Packers win big.
Now the Saints-Niners? I can see the Niners giving a good game, but New Orleans is playing lights out; and for all the talk about Brees and that passing game,they run the ball hard and have an awesome secondary, and can do it on the road. Right now the Saints are the peaking team, not the Packers.
I doubt they will today.
Quote from: katmai on January 14, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
I doubt they will today.
Well, they won't if the Niners keep knocking motherfuckers unconscious. :lol:
Why do they keep throwing it on first and goal inside the five? Yeah, it helps when the Saints don't bother to cover Crabtree, but why not give it to Gore twice on first and second?
Quote from: Neil on January 14, 2012, 02:17:41 PM
Nothing would make me happier than a New York win there. But I just don't think they can do it. If their offense takes a quarter to get started, they could already be down 3 touchdowns. Sure, the Packers D is vulnerable, but the Giants would be even worse if they didn't have the best D line in football.
GB is an almost completely pass-oriented offense. The Giants have some of the best pass rush in football. Meanwhile, Manning knows how to win and the Giants can actually run the ball a bit - and as you say, the Packers' D is vulnerable to both the pass AND the run.
With so much on the line, I don't think it's going to take NY a whole quarter to get on the board.
It's still early. Very early.
But this is awesome.
Quote from: sbr on January 14, 2012, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 14, 2012, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 14, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
the Pack cannot stop the run at all.
They may be soft in the middle but the Giants won't be able to run outside on them.
No need to run outside if they can run up the middle all day.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 05:14:43 PM
It's still early. Very early.
But this is awesome.
The Niners match up well with all three of the teams left in NFC, yeah it's early, but with the opportunistic defense and the running game eating up clock, it's a great start for them today.
Wtf is going on in this game :lol:
All these dome boys are losing the ball in the sun. Brees' INT, the second fumble.
So smart of the Niners to defer and choose the end zone to defend.
THEYLL NEVER SEE WILLIS COMING IN FROM THE SUN
Yowza.
If it weren't for bad luck, the Saints'd have no luck at all today.
Jesus.
Receiver was clearly down; I'm sure they'll overturn this one at least.
When the Saints come marching in.
That throw & catch were ridiculously perfect.
Saints could have given their backs the day off today...
What a half!
Thank God it's a game again.
Goose, WTF were you thinking with that tie? Don't you have someone who helps you with stuff like that?
I :wub: Donte Whitner.
Lol, Alex Smith.
Did they grease the ball up or something?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 14, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Did they grease the ball up or something?
Those 4 marines are in charge of the balls.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 14, 2012, 06:39:42 PM
Did they grease the ball up or something?
Those 4 marines are in charge of the balls.
Maybe they pissed on the balls.
So Justin Smith is a pretty good player.
Ahahahaha this is fantastic.
the 49er's game has give me a raging murder boner.
Niners!!
I am katmai's just-induced heart attack.
What ballsy play calls by the Niners in the last 2 minutes. Now see, that's called going for the jugular. They out-Sainted the fucking Saints tonight.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 08:11:37 PM
I am katmai's just-induced heart attack.
I am experiencing shortness of breath.....
Ugh, the CBS brady cocksucker announcers are calling the game. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
Ugh, the CBS brady cocksucker announcers are calling the game. :(
Righteous cock is the best kind of cock.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 14, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
Ugh, the CBS brady cocksucker announcers are calling the game. :(
Dude, you should've known.
Unfortunately, that means we get yet more Gumble/Dierdorf retardation for the Texans/Ravens tomorrow.
*Ouch* Still, to turn the ball over 5-fucking-times and be ahead with 10 seconds left is more than I could have expected, and the end result beat last year.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 08:20:25 PM
Unfortunately, that means we get yet more Gumble/Dierdorf retardation for the Texans/Ravens tomorrow.
Oh goddammit.
Game over. My faith in Tebow doesn't go far enough to watch Tom Shitstain flinging the ball with impunity.
One thing I really dig about the Pats is how often they throw to the tight ends. It's definitely an underutilized position in modern football.
Quote from: fahdiz on January 14, 2012, 08:37:53 PM
One thing I really dig about the Pats is how often they throw to the tight ends. It's definitely an underutilized position in modern football.
Vernon Davis seemed pretty utilized today eh? :P
As was Jimmie Graham.
I mean in general, not just today. :P
Quote from: katmai on January 14, 2012, 08:45:06 PM
As was Jimmie Graham.
And Jermicheal Finley all year, or Antoino Gates every year but this one. :P
Don't forget Salt and Pepper, Dickson and Pitta. Saved Flacco's ass more than once.
I don't think underutilized is the right word. There is a HUGE talent gap between teh incredible athletic freaks like Graham, Gates, Finley, Gronk etc and the standard too-big-and-slow-to-be-a-WR or too-small-to-be-an-OL that most of the rest of the league get stuck with at TE.
The teams with a great TE utilize them, teams with Kevin Boss/Jake Ballard usually have better options.
Gah
This is brutal.
What the what. They should end it here and spare the Broncos more humiliation.
Slight edge to the Pats.
I'm so happy that this is the game I get to see this weekend. Now that God has left Denver maybe he can make it so I don't have to do anything on my on-call duty tomorrow so I can watch NFL instead.
Fucking Patriots. Now they're simply being obnoxious.
It seems that when the cards on the table, evil will triumph. :( I was rooting for NO as well. I was hoping that the Gomorrah on the Mississippi would beat Gomorrah on the West Coast.
By all means, Belichick, please keep running up the score with Brady still in the game.
Just amazed the Steelers lost to these scrubs.
Quote from: Valmy on January 14, 2012, 10:20:15 PM
Just amazed the Steelers lost to these scrubs.
I suppose that's the only positive thing coming out of this game: no Pittsburgh Steelers.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 14, 2012, 10:20:15 PM
Just amazed the Steelers lost to these scrubs.
I suppose that's the only positive thing coming out of this game: no Pittsburgh Steelers.
That is positive.
Somebody really needs to take out Brady's knee. Fuck the league fine, the Texans or Ravens will reimburse you.
That guinea ref is handling the cold like a man.
Sheesh, I expected a very tough game between NE and Denver. And who were those guys on the Pats defense? What did they do with the real players? Pats defense hasn't played that well all year. That was one big reason I was worried about Denver.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 10:40:41 AM
You know, it's sorta interesting that the Greatest Question of All--the Judeo-Christian concept of whether or not there is a God--comes down to a football game between the Broncos and the Patriots.
Nah, God is an evil bastard. I've known that for years.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 14, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 14, 2012, 08:20:25 PM
Unfortunately, that means we get yet more Gumble/Dierdorf retardation for the Texans/Ravens tomorrow.
Oh goddammit.
Indeed. The CBS #2 squad is terrible.
how about that pro-saints CW, Go Niners!!!1111oneoneoen..
Now that Alex Smith finally shut everybody up, it's time for Flacco to do the same.
Thank Jeebus that Tebow's season has been ended. :smoke:
Quote from: Caliga on January 15, 2012, 08:44:17 AM
Thank Jeebus that Tebow's season has been ended. :smoke:
The only problem was that it was someone even more wretched that ended it.
:mad:
I'm just watching the Saints-Niners now, and with all this turning the ball over by the Saints, no wonder they lost. And Brees had 60 pass attempts? Ridiculous.
Niners have been awesome though. Pierre Thomas got knocked the fuck out, and after that the Saints were one-dimensional. OK, Vernon Davis finally got to prove to America how ridiculous he is, and Alex Smith was clutch, but I'm giving Whitner the TKO.
Love Comcast, the channel is randomly down. :yuk:
Jacobi Jones does it again.
Jones is such a fucking retard.
Man, I have no idea how the refs could not give Joe the touchdown on the sneak there. Everybody was waist-deep in the endzone.
:mellow:
I'm not wanting to see Jacoby Jones on the field again. Ever.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 01:39:09 PM
:mellow:
I'm not wanting to see Jacoby Jones on the field again. Ever.
I don't know what Yates was thinking on that pick. Johnson is one of the greatest receivers playing right now, but Webb is probably the best corner in the AFC North and had him totally covered.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 01:48:17 PM
I don't know what Yates was thinking on that pick. Johnson is one of the greatest receivers playing right now, but Webb is probably the best corner in the AFC North and had him totally covered.
Yates might be freaking out a little.
Edit: Foster and Reed are right back out there. Just needed a little extra time to rub some dirt on it, I guess.
That was also not a "freaking out" throw by Yates to Daniels, so I guess it's just "being a rookie" instead.
I'm amazed that Reed didn't come down with that pick earlier on.
Good throwaway by Yates.
Why challenge that?
It always surprises me how unbelievably bad are the Ravens are at challenges. Whoever is up in the booth telling Harbaugh to throw the flag needs to be replaced, because they pretty much invariably fail.
Wooo. Maybe don't just throw it up like that TJ. Nice catch by Foster on the next play though.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
Wooo. Maybe don't just throw it up like that TJ. Nice catch by Foster on the next play though.
I think Reed must be in serious pain right now, because that's two easy interceptions he's dropped.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
I think Reed must be in serious pain right now, because that's two easy interceptions he's dropped.
To be fair, the first one where he hurt himself would have been a spectacular INT.
Nice catch by Boldin. Jackson actually did a good job.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 02:19:48 PM
I think Reed must be in serious pain right now, because that's two easy interceptions he's dropped.
To be fair, the first one where he hurt himself would have been a spectacular INT.
Nice catch by Boldin. Jackson actually did a good job.
Boldin and Flacco have really been clicking today. Flacco has been making amazing throws to him, and he's been making amazing catches.
I dig the stadium music up there in B-more. Pearl Jam earlier, now Alice in Chains. Way better than the shit that is pumped out most places.
Well...17-13 at the half. That could have been a lot worse.
Ray Ray was waddling like a fat old man on that big gain by Foster.
Ray Lewis: on field asset or liability?
After the Bengals losing last week the Ravens are my team the rest of the way, which is screwing with my natural instinct to root for the underdog in this game.
At least it ended up being more entertaining than it was looking in the 1st quarter.
Btw, after the 20th time CBS showed the commercial for that Rob Schneider sitcom, I realized they were pronouncing Cheech Marin's last name with the Spanish pronunciation. When the hell did that start, and why change it this late in his career with everyone knowing him by the anglicized pronunciation?
The current trend towards overpronouncing Spanish names & words is tempting me to pretend to be ignorant to the whole thing & butcher the pronunciation like the Brits do.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2012, 02:39:23 PM
Btw, after the 20th time CBS showed the commercial for that Rob Schneider sitcom, I realized they were pronouncing Cheech Marin's last name with the Spanish pronunciation. When the hell did that start, and why change it this late in his career with everyone knowing him by the anglicized pronunciation?
The Canadian feed is overwriting the CBS commercials with their own, which means I don't get to see that sort of terrible thing.
Jacoby Jones running backwards now. I shouldn't complain too much, I guess. At least he fucking caught it.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
Jacoby Jones running backwards now. I shouldn't complain too much, I guess. At least he fucking caught it.
Great tackle by Nakamura though. He's a very sure special teams tackler.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 15, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
Ray Ray was waddling like a fat old man on that big gain by Foster.
Ray Lewis: on field asset or liability?
Definite asset. He's still a great on-the-field leader, and can still make some amazing plays. He loses a step on a play every now & then, but overall he's still a big asset.
Specifically with the leader part, you want his 16 years of experience out there on the field reading offenses, making adjustments, etc. I would imagine he makes the defensive coaches' job pretty easy-- to the point where the only thing they need to tell him through his helmet radio are when the offense is bringing in different personnel.
Having said all that, I get the feeling that Suggs is about ready to take on that role. He has half of Lews's NFL experience, but then again that's almost a decade.
Hm. Johnson should have caught that 3rd down pass, then the short FG attempt. Missed opportunities.
Lee Evans just earned his salary.
Nice catch by Evans.
:lol: Poor Kareem Jackson just can't catch a break.
No, Dierdorf, you don't kick a FG here. Even if you don't make it, the ball is on the goal line.
Nice stop, now don't fuck it up. And keep Jacoby on the sidelines.
That Kobesystems commercial is the stupidest shoe commercial I've ever seen. Maybe the stupidest non-political commercial I've ever seen.
JJ Watt is a monster.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 15, 2012, 03:27:15 PM
That Kobesystems commercial is the stupidest shoe commercial I've ever seen. Maybe the stupidest non-political commercial I've ever seen.
That is a pretty bad commercial.
I forgot the game was on at normal time today and just turned it on. Oh well, playing Killing Floor was a lot of fun too.
Jacoby. Stop running the wrong way.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
It helps when they don't block him.
Doesn't seem to matter when they do either. ;)
Hey they finally caught one of those crazy "fuck it" passes by Yates.
Flacco did a good job escaping there. He's going to need that.
Time is running short here. Houston is going to need a big play.
Cdm I think you should change the channel before you have a heart attack :lol:
Alright, Mr Yates. Here's your shot.
I want B'more to win but I hope they make it interesting.
That was close but I think he was down.
What the hell was he thinking
Finally!
Damn TJ, you don't have to go for it all there. Ah well.
Congrats Ravens.
I think this is a game the Texans can walk away from with their heads up.
Now it's time for Rodgers to make the Giants look silly.
Quote from: HVC on January 15, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
What the hell was he thinking
He's been attacking bracketed receivers all day today.
I thought he was an inch short. That's the game then.
I really enjoyed the game. Houston's defence played lights out today. What a war.
Hey this way, we get to see Pollard vs. the Patriots again.
Whoa the Ravens are going to punt it. JACOBY JONES CAN DO IT
Watch Jones take this to the house.
:wacko: Why throw the bomb there?
Watching the replay though....uh....that actually bounced off of Walter. Hit him in the shoulder. Damn near a TD.
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Welp
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 04:09:55 PM
:wacko: Why throw the bomb there?
Yeah, the real difference in this game was quarterback play. Flacco made plays when he had to (despite the ferocious pressure from Houston. Houston's O-Line was the better of the two today) and took care of the ball. Yates threw three picks and three more that should have been picked.
Hmmm should I watch the giants get crushed, or go out and do something?
Quote from: HVC on January 15, 2012, 04:16:40 PM
Hmmm should I watch the giants get crushed, or go out and do something?
Watch at least the first quarter.
Quote from: HVC on January 15, 2012, 03:52:57 PM
Cdm I think you should change the channel before you have a heart attack :lol:
No shit. I'm finally getting the feeling back in my hands.
Texans played a hell of a game, like I knew they would. And, of course, Cam Cameron did outfuckingthink himself again.
But at the end of the day, you can say they're old or they're slower now or they're banged up, but #20 and #52 proved one thing: players make plays when plays need to be made.
The offensive game plan the Ravens came out with today will not cut it in Foxboro, though.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 04:09:55 PM
Watching the replay though....uh....that actually bounced off of Walter. Hit him in the shoulder. Damn near a TD.
Yeah, it hit him in the back of the shoulder. Closer than I would have liked it to be.
Well, let's hope that Pollard takes Brady's knee again.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2012, 04:20:57 PM
The offensive game plan the Ravens came out with today will not cut it in Foxboro, though.
It won't have to be. The Texans will outfight you and are physical like crazy. The Patriots D will hold and surrender at every turn.
Good Houston-Baltimore game.
Grats to the Ravens! Next week at Foxboro. Good luck Seedy! (Though of course I hope the Ravens lose.) ;)
Nicks' speed always makes my jaw drop. You think they're going to get him, and then he just puts on a burst at the last second.
That ruling is absolute horseshit. That was a fumble, and there's no way that the refs can honestly say anything different.
The pack have the dropsies.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 15, 2012, 05:41:31 PM
The pack have the dropsies.
You got that right.
lol, refs can't fuck up that one.
It has got to be embarrassing to have the crowd chant your name and right after, cough up the ball.
Send in Brandon saine. Unleash the rook.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Nicks' speed always makes my jaw drop. You think they're going to get him, and then he just puts on a burst at the last second.
I used to work with a Giants fan, and we were both pissed when Nicks was drafted. I was pissed because the Ravens didn't get him, and he was pissed because the Giants did. HOWDA FUCK IS ELI SUPPOSED TO TROW TO DAT MOOLIE, HES GOT NUFFIN
New York fans are total morons second only to Filthadelphians in every sport. :lol:
Eli!
Holy shit. Touchdown!
Eli Manning is fucking clutch.
And a nice catch by Nicks, too.
Hilarious.
Lambeau just got a lot fucking colder.
This game is certainly not playing out according to script. Giants run gets stuffed and they rack up big points anyway.
Goddamn, the Houston media is brutal.
QuoteYes, you can blame Jacoby Jones for this heart-breaking loss
QuoteJacoby Jones' mistake will go down as one of the dumbest in Houston sports history
QuoteWatch his stupid mistake
And those are the headlines in the Chronicle.
Jacoby isn't exactly a fan favorite right now. Hell, he hasn't been one since ~the start of his second season, but after today he's moved into the FUCK HIM zone.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 06:35:39 PM
Jacoby isn't exactly a fan favorite right now. Hell, he hasn't been one since ~the start of his second season, but after today he's moved into the FUCK HIM zone.
Dude, that shit happened in the first quarter. Who are they bitching at for the brown out in the 2nd half? Certainly not the guy that threw 3 INTs, I've noticed.
Black dude loses the ball, and niggers will be dragged behind pick ups tonight in Texas. QB throws 3 picks? Awww, he was a gamer!
Typical fucking Texas racism.
Ouch. I mean, someone has to be the goat, but that's just harsh. And in a game when your QB was drilling Webb right in the numbers, I can't believe that they'd put everything on poor Jones.
Mind you, I think it's more of a 'straw that broke the camel's back' thing. Jones has been fucking up and dropping every pass thrown in his direction for a long time now.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
Dude, that shit happened in the first quarter. Who are they bitching at for the brown out in the 2nd half? Certainly not the guy that threw 3 INTs, I've noticed.
Black dude loses the ball, and niggers will be dragged behind pick ups tonight in Texas. QB throws 3 picks? Awww, he was a gamer!
Typical fucking Texas racism.
Well you're a fucking retard, aren't you? Yates isn't getting a pass, but Yates isn't a four year veteran who just signed an extension and has been doing a lot of fucking up his whole career.
Here's another headline, since you're too dumb to figure it out:
QuoteGrades: T.J. Yates, Jacoby Jones much to blame for this one
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 06:43:07 PM
Mind you, I think it's more of a 'straw that broke the camel's back' thing. Jones has been fucking up and dropping every pass thrown in his direction for a long time now.
That's exactly what it is.
Seriously, every offseason after his rookie year, it was "Jacoby has been working hard and has gotten a lot better and is much more mature <etc>." His rookie year, no one expected him to be Andre Johnson, they just wanted him to be the return guy and learn to be a solid WR from AJ and become the #2 in a couple years. His second year, he kept doing the same things he was as a rookie. Then the third and forth, and now he's doing the same things in the second round of the playoffs. He's just way too erratic.
Jacoby has done this to himself. At some point, you have to stop doing crazy shit on punt returns and dropping more passes than you catch.
MBM, you have to remember seedy sees racism everywhere, cause well you know he's a racist.
I wouldn't sweat CdM. He's hardcore racist.
Then again, maybe the Packers could use Jacoby. I mean, yeah, he's got hands of stone, but sometimes it actually does stay in there.
QuoteMBM, you have to remember seedy sees racism everywhere, cause well you know he's a racist.
QuoteI wouldn't sweat CdM. He's hardcore racist.
The stupidity just caught me off guard.
Helluva stop for the Giants there.
Edit: :blink: Uh. The Giants have the ball again.
Good night, Green Bay. You had a good run, but now it's over.
I really hated that roughing the passer call.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
I really hated that roughing the passer call.
Yeah that was dumb.
NFC title game at the Stick!
Oof. What a collapse.
Now who do I root for.
Unless the refs can cheat the Packers back into it, Rodgers will have the whole off-season to film more shitty commercials.
Well, I like both the Giants and Niners, but I'm holding out for a Harbowl.
As am I.
QuotePatriots it is then.
:lol:
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
Harbowl.
This right here.
If the Saints hadn't turned the ball over 5 times I had a pretty good shot at 4-0 this week. I would have preferred to see the Pack advance, but oh well. I am pulling for the Harbowl now too.
I went 1-3, but the one I got was the only one that mattered.
Giants, niners, ravens...I guess defense does still win.
That was painful- Packers were playing like a bunch of zombies tonight.
My Ravens-Patriots AFC Championship Game prediction came true! :)
Man-- how many times have we seen a 9-7 team on an extreme hot streak come in & knock out the #1 seed that came in cold because they sat their QB in Week 17 and had the bye.
The AFC Championship game will be an epic showdown, and a Harbaugh Bowl rematch would make for an awesome Super Bowl, if possibly the lowest-scoring one ever.
The four last AFC teams were, with one exception, those with Languish fanbases. The Ravens have CdM, Alci and myself, the Texans have MBM and the Cheatriots have asshole bandwagon pieces of shit.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 08:09:17 PM
and the Cheatriots have asshole bandwagon pieces of shit.
:lol:
We don't have any Denver fans here at all? I used to kind of like them after living there in the dark times between the Oilers and Texans, but it's really hard to give a shit about them anymore. lol Brian Griese's first years as a starter there, actually.
well that was unexpected (by me anyway :P )
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 08:14:00 PM
We don't have any Denver fans here at all? I used to kind of like them after living there in the dark times between the Oilers and Texans, but it's really hard to give a shit about them anymore. lol Brian Griese's first years as a starter there, actually.
I hope not. :mad: Although Seedy took over for me being their qb's personal fanbase after the change over.
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 08:09:17 PM
The Ravens have CdM, Alci and myself
Why are you a fan of the Ravens anyway? That makes no fucking sense. It's like me declaring myself to be an Edmonton Oilers fan for no specific reason. :hmm:
Quote from: Caliga on January 15, 2012, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 08:09:17 PM
The Ravens have CdM, Alci and myself
Why are you a fan of the Ravens anyway? That makes no fucking sense. It's like me declaring myself to be an Edmonton Oilers fan for no specific reason. :hmm:
I like defence and a powerful running attack, which is the Ravens, especially when I started getting into the NFL in the early 2000s.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 15, 2012, 06:57:25 PM
Then again, maybe the Packers could use Jacoby. I mean, yeah, he's got hands of stone, but sometimes it actually does stay in there.
QuoteMBM, you have to remember seedy sees racism everywhere, cause well you know he's a racist.
QuoteI wouldn't sweat CdM. He's hardcore racist.
The stupidity just caught me off guard.
Yeah, this one's going to sting for a while.
Quote from: derspiess on January 15, 2012, 08:08:09 PMThe AFC Championship game will be an epic showdown, and a Harbaugh Bowl rematch would make for an awesome Super Bowl, if possibly the lowest-scoring one ever.
If it turns out to be NE-NYG, somebody's going to have to find out which Sears department store David Tyree is working at, and suit him up.
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I used to work with a Giants fan, and we were both pissed when Nicks was drafted. I was pissed because the Ravens didn't get him, and he was pissed because the Giants did. HOWDA FUCK IS ELI SUPPOSED TO TROW TO DAT MOOLIE, HES GOT NUFFIN
Nicks had problems with drops during the year, although that has ended in the playoffs
Also Eli deserves some credit there -- one of his best attributes is patience working with young receivers and coping with the turnover.
Still no question nicks has been great. Giants have drafted pretty well recently. I remember the NY media blasting them when Pierre-Paul got selected. NY sports radio is like the blind leading the blind leading a GOP primary candidate. It is a breeding ground for strutting ignorance.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 15, 2012, 06:16:22 PM
. Giants run gets stuffed and they rack up big points anyway.
It's been like that all year. Giants averaged like 3.6 a carry. The difference recently has been the the defense has been showing up to play (literally in terms of no injuries and metaphortically is terms of intensity)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Nicks' speed always makes my jaw drop. You think they're going to get him, and then he just puts on a burst at the last second.
I used to work with a Giants fan, and we were both pissed when Nicks was drafted. I was pissed because the Ravens didn't get him, and he was pissed because the Giants did. HOWDA FUCK IS ELI SUPPOSED TO TROW TO DAT MOOLIE, HES GOT NUFFIN
Moolie? Haven't heard that one before.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 15, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Nicks' speed always makes my jaw drop. You think they're going to get him, and then he just puts on a burst at the last second.
I used to work with a Giants fan, and we were both pissed when Nicks was drafted. I was pissed because the Ravens didn't get him, and he was pissed because the Giants did. HOWDA FUCK IS ELI SUPPOSED TO TROW TO DAT MOOLIE, HES GOT NUFFIN
Moolie? Haven't heard that one before.
I take it you've never seen the old Eddie Murphy standups? I forget whether it's Delirious or Raw.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 15, 2012, 08:04:55 PM
My Ravens-Patriots AFC Championship Game prediction came true! :)
The Pats-Ravens match will be a hard fought match. This won't be anything close to a replay of the Pats-Broncos.
Early lines
1/22 3:00 ET At New England -7.5 Baltimore
1/22 6:30 ET At San Francisco -2.5 NY Giants
I take both road teams and the points right now. My mind may change as the week goes on.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on January 15, 2012, 09:26:40 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 15, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 15, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 15, 2012, 05:11:33 PM
Nicks' speed always makes my jaw drop. You think they're going to get him, and then he just puts on a burst at the last second.
I used to work with a Giants fan, and we were both pissed when Nicks was drafted. I was pissed because the Ravens didn't get him, and he was pissed because the Giants did. HOWDA FUCK IS ELI SUPPOSED TO TROW TO DAT MOOLIE, HES GOT NUFFIN
Moolie? Haven't heard that one before.
I take it you've never seen the old Eddie Murphy standups? I forget whether it's Delirious or Raw.
I don't watch standup
Quote from: sbr on January 16, 2012, 12:12:38 AM
Early lines
1/22 3:00 ET At New England -7.5 Baltimore
1/22 6:30 ET At San Francisco -2.5 NY Giants
I take both road teams and the points right now. My mind may change as the week goes on.
That New England line is way too big. WTF :blink:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 16, 2012, 12:17:11 AM
Quote from: sbr on January 16, 2012, 12:12:38 AM
Early lines
1/22 3:00 ET At New England -7.5 Baltimore
1/22 6:30 ET At San Francisco -2.5 NY Giants
I take both road teams and the points right now. My mind may change as the week goes on.
That New England line is way too big. WTF :blink:
Yeah it is. I might reconsider the Giants but the Ravens and 7.5 is damn near a lock.
My pick for the Superbowl.
Pats vs. Giants on the strength of their Quaterbacks.
What a lame play-offs this has been. Atlanta and New Orleans both out. Stafford and Tebow both out. Now there's nothing left except to root against the Patriots. <_<
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 16, 2012, 03:53:44 AM
My pick for the Superbowl.
Pats vs. Giants on the strength of their Quaterbacks.
You're a fag. I hope you get run over by a girl-pop tour bus.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 16, 2012, 03:53:44 AM
My pick for the Superbowl.
Pats vs. Giants on the strength of their Quaterbacks.
That theory didn't work so well for the Saints and the Pack.
Quote from: sbr on January 16, 2012, 12:12:38 AM
Early lines
1/22 3:00 ET At New England -7.5 Baltimore
1/22 6:30 ET At San Francisco -2.5 NY Giants
I take both road teams and the points right now. My mind may change as the week goes on.
I'll take the points in the AFC game but for the NFC game my gut tells me the Niners defense is going to find a way to shut Eli down. But I've been dead wrong about the Giants for the first two weeks of the playoffs, so my taking the Niners should probably give Giants fans some hope.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 16, 2012, 04:09:29 AM
What a lame play-offs this has been. Atlanta and New Orleans both out. Stafford and Tebow both out. Now there's nothing left except to root against the Patriots. <_<
With the Falcons and Pack both out, I have to fall back to rooting for the 49ers.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on January 15, 2012, 08:00:03 PM
That was painful- Packers were playing like a bunch of zombies tonight.
NY just outplayed them. Pure and simple.
Niners over Giants
Ravens in spite of Flacco over NE Brady's
Niners vs. Patriots in the Super Bowl
Quote from: Valmy on January 17, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
Niners vs. Patriots in the Super Bowl
I'm hoping for this, but a NE vs Giants would be an interesting rematch, the Giants having beaten NE a few years ago.
Still need to get past the Ravens, and even though the Pats had a good defensive game last week, I'm still worried over their defense, and rightly so.
Reed throws Flacco under the bus. :)
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Baltimore-Ravens-Ed-Reed-calls-out-shaky-quarterback-Joe-Flacco-011712
QuoteI can't wait for Championship Sunday. It's the single best day on the NFL calendar. It's often better than the Super Bowl. I want to scream that Sunday is going to be epic with two pick-'em games. I want to rant and rave how all four teams left in the tournament have an equal chance to make the Super Bowl.
But I can't. I won't. Even though I love everything about the Ravens, I don't think they will win the Super Bowl. I don't have faith in Joe Flacco.
Flacco pretty much nailed it last week in his whiny, defeatist rant, saying the critics would find a way to knock him around and not give him credit if Baltimore won. Well, the Ravens beat the Texans, and Flacco had another pedestrian game.
If you don't believe me, take Ed Reed's word for it.
Reed joined us Monday on the SiriusXM Blitz, and we asked an open-ended question seeking his analysis of Flacco's performance. Reed's response was telling:
"Joe was kind of rattled a little bit by that defense. They had a lot of guys in the box on him and they were giving it to him. I think a couple of times he needed to get rid of the ball. It just didn't look like he had a hold on the offense."
Whoa!
Then Reed added, "He can't play like that. One specific play that sticks out to me was when Ray Rice came out and got pushed out of the backfield and (Flacco) still threw him the ball and he had Torrey Smith on the outside. I can say that sitting on the sideline or sitting in the stands. You don't know what someone else is seeing."
Joe Flacco hasn't been trustworthy this season. He hasn't been consistent. His commentary to the media last week was rather alarming, sounding beaten-down, marching to a loser's lament, worried more about perception than the actual game.
I love John Harbaugh. He's an excellent coach. Every year Baltimore gets a top ranking in my annual organizational rankings, led by Ozzie Newsome and Eric DeCosta. Ray Rice is an elite back. I voted for him as a first-team All-Pro. The Ravens defense, led by Reed's savvy and play-making skills, is outstanding. Terrell Suggs can't be blocked. Haloti Ngata is a beast. Ray Lewis seems healthy and looks like he's drinking from the fountain of youth. And Baltimore isn't scared of the Patriots in Foxborough, having won in New England two seasons ago in dominant, bone-crushing fashion. It actually lines up for a potential upset special.
Now ask yourself if you trust Flacco. Can you picture him pitching the perfect game necessary to best Tom Brady?
If Flacco fizzles on Sunday instead of shining, would it be time to explore Plan B to get Baltimore over the hump? I think it would be that time. Too strong, or right on, according to Reed.
Why does everyone think that exemplary QB play is needed to beat the Patriots? Joe's game in 2009 involved a lot of handoffs, and yet the Ravens completely destroyed the Patriots.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
Why does everyone think that exemplary QB play is needed to beat the Patriots?
Yes, a good pass rush goes at LEAST as far, and good coverage even further.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2012, 06:45:08 PM
Reed throws Flacco under the bus. :)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
FWIW, Flacco's first TD pass was an Flacco improvisation.
I haven't seen a team yet that had figured out NE's double TE formation; will be interesting to see what the Ravens come up with.
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
Why does everyone think that exemplary QB play is needed to beat the Patriots? Joe's game in 2009 involved a lot of handoffs, and yet the Ravens completely destroyed the Patriots.
Ravens D is 2 years older. I don't see them being able to contain Gronk.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2012, 07:09:55 PM
I don't see them being able to contain Gronk.
That dude is such a powerhouse.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2012, 07:09:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 17, 2012, 07:01:40 PM
Why does everyone think that exemplary QB play is needed to beat the Patriots? Joe's game in 2009 involved a lot of handoffs, and yet the Ravens completely destroyed the Patriots.
Ravens D is 2 years older. I don't see them being able to contain Gronk.
Hit Brady in the chest and break his ribs.
Besides, the Ravens D is younger now then it was then.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 17, 2012, 07:08:20 PM
I haven't seen a team yet that had figured out NE's double TE formation; will be interesting to see what the Ravens come up with.
The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard.
Patriotard fanboi on ESPN ignites Flacco's Italian blood!
QuoteJoe Flacco, he wants his respect, he hasn't gotten it, and he's going to get his opportunity against New England, because there's going to be multiple lead changes. He may have to bring his team back in the fourth quarter. You want it, you've got it, Joe Flacco. Here's opportunity right now, because right now Tom Brady is Michael Corleone and Joe Flacco is Fredo. That's who he is. He's Fredo. He wants his respect. Well, if you want your respect, you're going to have to be that quarterback that plays -- well, not better than Brady, but leads your team to victory. So you want it, you've got it.
--former New England Patriots linebacker Tedy Bruschi, ESPN
You and Teddy look a lot alike.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 17, 2012, 07:09:55 PM
Ravens D is 2 years older. I don't see them being able to contain Gronk.
The Ravens have lots of great young players on defense (and some new ones who are not so young like my man Cory Redding :punk: )
Say what you want about the Ravens but their GM knows how to draft defensive players. It is just ridiculous if you look at their drafts since 1996 of how consistently they hit on defenders. The only two guys who are really aging are Lewis and Reed though, granted, those are their two leaders.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 20, 2012, 08:11:48 AM
You and Teddy look a lot alike.
So I look cromagnon. Lovely. <_<
Could be worse. You could look like a Neanderthal.
I actually feel more comfortable about this match-up on the road against New England than I did at home with the Texans.
Defensively, NE will not be able to collapse the pocket with 4 man rushes, like Houston could; they don't have the horses. They'll need to bring 5 and 6 to blitz, and that will allow one-on-ones in space; if Flacco can be given the time, and Rice gets going with the running game to the point they can sell it to the defense, he will obliterate them.
Conversely, the vertical game of the Patriots is non-existent; it's the middle of the field the Ravens need to stake a claim to. And that means linebackers and safeties--arguably their strong suit. And Brady gets extremely rattled when he's touched or gets pressure, he's not dangerous like Rapistburger or the Red Rifle or even Yates, who can do just as much damage outside the pocket as in it. And the Pats have no running game. Look for sell out blitzes by the Ravens non-stop.
What is of paramount importance is sending a message at jump. First time Hernandez or Teh Gronk goes over the middle, need to twist that nigga's cap back. Take the 15 yards. Send the message.
Only way to beat the Pats is to either 1) beat on Brady, or 2) beat on his receivers. As the referees will slant the game towards the golden boy anyway, #1 is not as much as an option. The Pats wideouts are too small, the Ravens CBs can be physical with them, and as long as Welker is contained, that job is done. But they have to destroy those TEs.
Ravens keys:
--Keep Brady off the field by being consistent and converting 3rd downs.
--Keep the defense fresh by getting off the field on 3rd down and getting turnovers. If the Ravens are losing the time of possession at halftime, it's over, regardless of the score.
--Outscore the referees. Don't let them be in a position to change the outcome, like the last 3 meetings with the Patriots.
I look forward to seeing Webb on Welker, because I think that Webb might be the most complete corner in the AFC. He might not have quite the virtuosity in coverage of Revis or Joseph, but he's probably the best tackler at the position.
Gronk is a gigantic Polack slab. I don't see where you can hit him that it would hurt.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 20, 2012, 09:01:49 AM
Gronk is a gigantic Polack slab. I don't see where you can hit him that it would hurt.
The neck. The groin. The knees and ankles.
Someone could rip his eye out, Any Given Sunday style.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2012, 08:30:31 AM
I actually feel more comfortable about this match-up on the road against New England than I did at home with the Texans.
Defensively, NE will not be able to collapse the pocket with 4 man rushes, like Houston could; they don't have the horses. They'll need to bring 5 and 6 to blitz, and that will allow one-on-ones in space; if Flacco can be given the time, and Rice gets going with the running game to the point they can sell it to the defense, he will obliterate them.
If Rice can get 100 yards rushing, the Ravens win. And hell, if the Patriots blitz a lot he could end up with 100 yards receiving.
Quote from: Alcibiades on January 20, 2012, 10:36:17 AM
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Weren't you a Packers fan a few months ago?
Quote from: sbr on January 20, 2012, 10:53:35 AM
Weren't you a Packers fan a few months ago?
He's always been both.
I've always been a fan of the-team-playing-against-the-Patriots. :)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 20, 2012, 09:01:49 AM
Gronk is a gigantic Polack slab. I don't see where you can hit him that it would hurt.
Yeah, he's a big moosie, but if anybody could hit him so he'd notice, it'd be Ray Ray or Bonecrusher Pollard.
Who is #55 and how does he make Brady's hair grow so fast?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 20, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 20, 2012, 09:01:49 AM
Gronk is a gigantic Polack slab. I don't see where you can hit him that it would hurt.
Yeah, he's a big moosie, but if anybody could hit him so he'd notice, it'd be Ray Ray or Bonecrusher Pollard.
I think the best hit of the year though was the one JJ laid on Ward.
Useless stat of the day:
The Patriots have two wins over playoff teams, both against Denver who had no business in the playoffs.
The Ravens have seven wins over playoff teams: 2 vs Pittsburgh, 2 vs Cincy, 2 vs Houston and one vs San Fran.
Time for talk is over. It's on.
:bleeding: That anthem was almost Carl Lewis bad.
And a transport plane for a flyover? Gay.
Quote from: sbr on January 22, 2012, 03:04:29 PM
:bleeding: That anthem was almost Carl Lewis bad.
Carl Lewis sang the national anthem? :lol:
But yeah, Tyler should probably retire from giving public performances. Even the scream was weak.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 22, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: sbr on January 22, 2012, 03:04:29 PM
:bleeding: That anthem was almost Carl Lewis bad.
Carl Lewis sang the national anthem? :lol:
But yeah, Tyler should probably retire from giving public performances. Even the scream was weak.
I can't find the whole clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZaae6jMwnQ&feature=related
Looks like a Ravens kind of game. I like where this is going.
Well, the fix is in.
Quote from: Neil on January 22, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
Well, the fix is in.
:lol: Yeah, when the receiver runs into you, you're guilty as charged for illegal contact.
Offensive line didn't show up at the stadium today, Neil.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 22, 2012, 03:32:33 PM
Offensive line didn't show up at the stadium today, Neil.
No kidding. Although they're playing a little better since Oher got nicked.
Go for it.
Quote from: sbr on January 22, 2012, 03:48:27 PM
Go for it.
The way the line is playing? I don't trust them to get those 2 feet, let alone the 2 yards into the end zone.
The white tight end!
Ravens are looking good.
It would be a different game if Brady had hit the wide open Gronk though.
:D
Joe Flacco haters can suck it.
Big missed opportunity there
I haven't seen one black face in the crowd shots.
Pollard4president.
:lol: pollard
I told you, you just need to take his knee or ankle.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 22, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
I haven't seen one black face in the crowd shots.
That's because they're all wearing helmets.
Duh.
That wasn't a very good pass, Joe.
Fuck you Flacco. Color blind motherfucker.
Wtf did he think he saw there?
Hahaha
Excellent team the Ravens are. They're playing tough, and a very strong defense. Flacco is having a very good game. I knew the Ravens were good, and would play a game like this, and they are.
At what point do the Patriots just do whatever they can to get Pollard on their team so he stops being able to ruin them?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 22, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
At what point do the Patriots just do whatever they can to get Pollard on their team so he stops being able to ruin them?
Wait until the off season. ;)
Quote from: KRonn on January 22, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 22, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
At what point do the Patriots just do whatever they can to get Pollard on their team so he stops being able to ruin them?
Wait until the off season. ;)
Can't. Signed a 3 year contract.
Cam Cameron must be fired. Now.
Draw play? :yuk:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 22, 2012, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: KRonn on January 22, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 22, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
At what point do the Patriots just do whatever they can to get Pollard on their team so he stops being able to ruin them?
Wait until the off season. ;)
Can't. Signed a 3 year contract.
Damn! Can't do another Welker type deal then! :mad:
The worst line in sports.
Quote from: KRonn on January 22, 2012, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 22, 2012, 05:52:32 PM
Quote from: KRonn on January 22, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 22, 2012, 05:48:48 PM
At what point do the Patriots just do whatever they can to get Pollard on their team so he stops being able to ruin them?
Wait until the off season. ;)
Can't. Signed a 3 year contract.
Damn! Can't do another Welker type deal then! :mad:
Go away, faggot.
Goodnight, Boston. Thanks for the biscuits.
How far would that FG have been, and do the Ravens not have a single play in their playbook involving quick slants?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 22, 2012, 05:58:07 PM
How far would that FG have been, and do the Ravens not have a single play in their playbook involving quick slants?
51 yards.
And obviously not.
Hope to see a stop here.
As someone with no real rooting interest it has been a very good game either way.
I still would have liked to see bmore win.
Cundiff is injured and hasn't had much distance for the whole second half of the year. I don't blame them.
Decision was fine, playcall was crap again.
Quote from: Neil on January 22, 2012, 06:00:50 PM
Cundiff is injured and hasn't had much distance for the whole second half of the year. I don't blame them.
A pooch punt would've worked as well.
Great play
It's Flacco's game to win now. Or lose.
Quote from: sbr on January 22, 2012, 06:01:29 PM
Decision was fine, playcall was crap again.
Yeah. Cam Cameron is done.
They don't have much time to move the ball down the field.
Whoa
:blink:
And he hooked the kick.
To go from winning to losing like that is agonizing.
someone call an ambulance Cdm just had a rage enduced heart attack.
LACES OUT. :mad:
Well, that sucked.
Quote from: HVC on January 22, 2012, 06:10:26 PM
someone call an ambulance Cdm just had a rage enduced heart attack.
Nah, it's straight out of the Brady Fantasy storyline.
So, who's the bigger goat? Cundiff or Cameron?
No Hardbowl :(
Good thing Harbaugh hung on to that timeout at the end. Wouldn't want the kicker to, you know, actually be able to get set or anything.
Quote from: Kleves on January 22, 2012, 06:13:21 PM
Good thing Harbaugh hung on to that timeout at the end. Wouldn't want the kicker to, you know, actually be able to get set or anything.
Nope, I disagree.
What an ending.
Sorry Seedy.
Well, this is fucking devastating. Not only do that Ravens go from winning the game to losing it in two plays, but the most evil, cheating, hated team in the entire world of sports advances to the Superbowl. I am so furious right now that I want to have the entire population of Boston liquidated.
This hurts. :yuk:
Why was Cundiff running on to the field with 10 on the play clock? Someone fucked that up. Looks like he didn't have time to get his alignment set up.
Rough ending but at least your team wasn't TEBOWED!
Quote from: sbr on January 22, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
What an ending.
Sorry Seedy.
Meh, just another example of a game the Ravens didn't lose, but almost won.
Thing is:
you keep Brady from throwing a TD pass
you force three turnovers
you lead in rushing and passing and time of possession
But you:
drop the game-winning TD
miss the game-tying field goal
Just another example of the Ravens outplaying their opponent in every facet of the game except the scoreboard. I'm used to it.
Quote from: Neil on January 22, 2012, 06:18:01 PM
Well, this is fucking devastating. Not only do that Ravens go from winning the game to losing it in two plays, but the most evil, cheating, hated team in the entire world of sports advances to the Superbowl. I am so furious right now that I want to have the entire population of Boston liquidated.
Go ahead. What a disappointment. The Ravens played so well, then just fucked up in the end.
I think Giants v Patriots is a pretty interesting match-up.
Early* line is Patriots by 3 (http://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_point_spreads.shtml). I take the G-men and the points in a heartbeat.
*In the understatement of the year.
Tampa bay is supposedly in contract negotiations with chip Kelly.
Man, what a shitty weekend. In both conferences.
The Ravens may have shanked it, but the refs took it away from the Niners with that bullshit fumble-but-the-whistle-blew.
Neil, you'll be happy to know that Cam Cameron's contract is up, and Steve Biscotti made it a point to say that no extension is on the table for him. Not that Hugh Jackson is looking for a job now.
QuoteIt took Ray Lewis a long time to put his suit on after the AFC championship was over on Sunday. He got dressed in silence, he made sure his tie was straight and his jacket wasn't wrinkled. Then, he stood in the eye of a small media storm, smiled into the cameras, and put to bed questions about his future.
"Is this my last game as a Raven? Absolutely not," Lewis said. "Let me answer that question before somebody asks it."
Woo! Rematch! Go Eli!
Well, the two big-market teams are going to play in the Superbowl, so the NFL suits at least are happy, even if nobody else is.
Chip Kelly had a late change of heart and turned down the bugs job.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 05:43:04 AM
Man, what a shitty weekend. In both conferences.
The Ravens may have shanked it, but the refs took it away from the Niners with that bullshit fumble-but-the-whistle-blew.
Neil, you'll be happy to know that Cam Cameron's contract is up, and Steve Biscotti made it a point to say that no extension is on the table for him. Not that Hugh Jackson is looking for a job now.
But hey on the bright side my Sunday Feb 5th has opened up to go snowboarding.
Yeah, the Superbowl just turned into a game like every other that the Patriots are involved in: Boring.
Quote from: Neil on January 23, 2012, 02:05:50 PM
Yeah, the Superbowl just turned into a game like every other that the Patriots are involved in: Boring.
It won't be boring when the Giants beat them.
Quote from: fahdiz on January 23, 2012, 02:18:40 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 23, 2012, 02:05:50 PM
Yeah, the Superbowl just turned into a game like every other that the Patriots are involved in: Boring.
It won't be boring when the Giants beat them.
Will Anyone outside that geographic region be watching?
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 23, 2012, 02:29:10 PM
Will Anyone outside that geographic region be watching?
I am Someone, and I am all the way on the other side of the country.
I will. The Super Bowl has been great for a long time now. It seems like every year is another really entertaining game and by no means have the ones the Patriots been in been an exception. Quite the contrary.
Nope, I won't. I mean, I'm pulling for the Giants, but I won't support the NFL if they allow the Patriots to play in the Superbowl.
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 23, 2012, 02:29:10 PM
Will Anyone outside that geographic region be watching?
It'll probably have a hundred million viewers like any other year.
Quote from: Neil on January 23, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Nope, I won't. I mean, I'm pulling for the Giants, but I won't support the NFL if they allow the Patriots to play in the Superbowl.
Hey if I were you I wouldn't either. Both of those championship games were gut punches to the losers.
Quote from: Valmy on January 23, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 23, 2012, 02:53:27 PM
Nope, I won't. I mean, I'm pulling for the Giants, but I won't support the NFL if they allow the Patriots to play in the Superbowl.
Hey if I were you I wouldn't either. Both of those championship games were gut punches to the losers.
Local media's calling it the most heartbreaking loss in Ravens history, and an extension of Cleveland's bad mojo from the Drive and the Fumble coming with them. :lol:
If someone told me Not having Ted Ginn Jr. playing means no superbowl, i sure as shit wouldn't have believed them.
Quote from: katmai on January 23, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
If someone told me Not having Ted Ginn Jr. playing means no superbowl, i sure as shit wouldn't have believed them.
:lol:
Quote from: katmai on January 23, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
If someone told me Not having Ted Ginn Jr. playing means no superbowl, i sure as shit wouldn't have believed them.
Fucking shame that couldn't happen the week before.
Quote from: Valmy on January 23, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
I will. The Super Bowl has been great for a long time now. It seems like every year is another really entertaining game and by no means have the ones the Patriots been in been an exception. Quite the contrary.
This is the match-up everybody, from the media to the league itself, wanted: a redux of the closest and arguably best Super Bowl in history. The world will be watching.
Unfortunately for the world, I don't think it's going to be as close as the last time. This Giants team is stronger, and this Pats team is weaker.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
This is the match-up everybody, from the media to the league itself, wanted
I wanted Giants-Ravens. But there you go.
Quote from: fahdiz on January 23, 2012, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
This is the match-up everybody, from the media to the league itself, wanted
I wanted Giants-Ravens. But there you go.
Didn't realize you are media or work for NFL.
Quote from: katmai on January 23, 2012, 05:35:43 PM
Didn't realize you are media or work for NFL.
He said "everybody". That assumes all people between "media" and "league itself" are included, not excluded. :P
GRAMMAR WINNING
Quote from: katmai on January 23, 2012, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on January 23, 2012, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
This is the match-up everybody, from the media to the league itself, wanted
I wanted Giants-Ravens. But there you go.
Didn't realize you are media or work for NFL.
LOL do you even remember the shit storm that blew up over SB35? How nobody outside of NY or Mobtown would've cared?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=44HQGlTUyh8
:lol:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on January 23, 2012, 09:04:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=44HQGlTUyh8
:lol:
LOL I was just about to post that.
Bayless is one of the least likable people on Earth. Still, his boys got Tebowed, so fuck him.
from an interview with Pollard:
QuoteYou got an opinion on Super Bowl XLVI?
"My opinion? I really hope the Giants – I just hope they just put a thrashing on the Patriots. I really do. To lose to a team like that the way we played. We played a good game. You gotta look at the experience of the team. You gotta look at what do the Giants have? They got a front four that is relentless. They got a secondary that is really, really good. They got a linebacking core that has been with them. The dinking and the dunking man? It's just not going to happen. They are going to have to take shots down the field. I think the Giants watch our film and watch the film of the season. They gotta take away their big time players. [Rob] Gronkowski I think he is coming off that ankle, so I don't know if he will be 100%."
Your reputation as the "Patriots Killer," continued yesterday with the tackle on Rob Gronkowski huh?
"Oh man that is fine and dandy. Like I said to a lot of people it is part of the game and this is what happens. If you don't like it? So what. I am going to go out there and I am going to play me."
Second part is the best. :)
Quote from: fahdiz on January 23, 2012, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 23, 2012, 03:54:51 PM
This is the match-up everybody, from the media to the league itself, wanted
I wanted Giants-Ravens. But there you go.
Ditto. Might have been the last chance to get even with Ray still playing. Oh well.
Colts signed Ravens DC to be new coach?
No Tressel. :weep:
The sweater vest stays in the closest for bit longer.
Looks like the Bengals expect Zimmer to not get the Tampa Bay HC job, since the supposed plan was to move DB coach Kevin Coyle to DC should Zimmer leave and they gave Coyle permission to talk to Miami about the DC job there.
I'd hate to lose him, but I hope Coyle gets a DC spot somewhere. He's due.
Eh, and I guess it's still not completely public knowledge that Fitzie isn't coming back as LB coach, as I mentioned here last week :ph34r:
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2012/1/25/2732912/reedy-all-indicators-point-to-lb-coach-jeff-fitzgeralds-contract-not
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Colts signed Ravens DC to be new coach?
Ravens DC seems to be a one-year gig at this point.
Still, the Colts job is going to be a weird one, what with the whole Manning-to-whatshisname changeover.
Luck, Andrew Luck.
Yeah, that's the guy. Well, we'll see how it all works out for them.
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2012, 05:37:02 PM
The sweater vest stays in the closest for bit longer.
I'll wear my Scarlet one tomorrow.
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Colts signed Ravens DC to be new coach?
Ravens DC seems to be a one-year gig at this point.
Ray Lewis and Ed Reed call the plays anyway. The DC just talks to the coach.
I had to go all the way to Sacramento to find someone else who spotted the Ravens' confusion with getting the kicker on the field. His theory was that Harbaugh was expecting Belichek to ice the kicker with a time out so he picked his nose until the play clock was down to 10.
I read somewhere that the kicker thought it was still 3rd down.
D'oh!
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 26, 2012, 12:01:46 PM
I read somewhere that the kicker thought it was still 3rd down.
Is that what Skip Bayless and Suggs were arguing about? That would make some sense.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 25, 2012, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Colts signed Ravens DC to be new coach?
Ravens DC seems to be a one-year gig at this point.
Ray Lewis and Ed Reed call the plays anyway. The DC just talks to the coach.
Guy was a Wyoming Cowboy - obviously you underrate his skill and ability. Now he went to Indy to become a douche...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 25, 2012, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 25, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: katmai on January 25, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Colts signed Ravens DC to be new coach?
Ravens DC seems to be a one-year gig at this point.
Ray Lewis and Ed Reed call the plays anyway. The DC just talks to the coach.
I'm sure they call some of the plays, but surely they don't have anything to do with changing packages, etc. (and yes, I am calling you Shirley).
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 12:02:42 PM
D'oh!
Yes, there was actually an error on the play clock.
Pats are cheaters.
Quote from: fahdiz on January 26, 2012, 12:44:29 PM
Yes, there was actually an error on the play clock.
You mean the time keeper muffed it??
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 26, 2012, 12:53:02 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on January 26, 2012, 12:44:29 PM
Yes, there was actually an error on the play clock.
You mean the time keeper muffed it??
QuoteCundiff told me he initially thought he was at fault, that he had looked at the scoreboard too early, before the down number had been changed. In fact, the Gillette Stadium scoreboard was off by a down. ...Ravens P.R. director Kevin Byrne told me—and Cundiff later learned—that team officials watched the All-22 video of the game on Monday and confirmed the scoreboard malfunction.
http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/features/2011/nfl_2011/conference_championships/billy_cundiff_the_ravens_kicker_rushed_his_kick_because_of_an_error_on_the_gillette_stadium_scoreboard_.html
:ph34r:
Bellicheat strikes again.
Typical Foxboro.
While the Patriots might be utterly dishonest and without a single shred of human decency, they didn't make Lee Evans drop the game-winning touchdown.
Quote from: Neil on January 26, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
While the Patriots might be utterly dishonest and without a single shred of human decency, they didn't make Lee Evans drop the game-winning touchdown.
Or Flacco not see a wide open Vonta Leach, who could have walked into the endzone on the drive after the Pats fumbled the kickoff.
The Buccaneers hired former Rutgers coach Greg Schiano.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aow4sXBJhGxDvVmLoFwypYtDubYF?slug=ap-buccaneers-schiano
I'm not sure why they were so set on hiring a college guy, especially after the disaster that the young, inexperienced Morris turned into.
Quote from: sbr on January 26, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 26, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
While the Patriots might be utterly dishonest and without a single shred of human decency, they didn't make Lee Evans drop the game-winning touchdown.
Or Flacco not see a wide open Vonta Leach, who could have walked into the endzone on the drive after the Pats fumbled the kickoff.
That's more forgivable in my books. The fullback is pretty far down in the progression for a QB who is only getting two seconds to throw before the turnstiles on the offensive line get him sacked.
Quote from: Neil on January 26, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
While the Patriots might be utterly dishonest and without a single shred of human decency, they didn't make Lee Evans drop the game-winning touchdown.
Sterling Moore begs to differ.
Quote from: ulmont on January 26, 2012, 03:54:30 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 26, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
While the Patriots might be utterly dishonest and without a single shred of human decency, they didn't make Lee Evans drop the game-winning touchdown.
Sterling Moore begs to differ.
He can differ all he wants. His weakass slap should have been too little, too late.
Quote from: derspiess on January 25, 2012, 05:39:03 PM
Looks like the Bengals expect Zimmer to not get the Tampa Bay HC job, since the supposed plan was to move DB coach Kevin Coyle to DC should Zimmer leave and they gave Coyle permission to talk to Miami about the DC job there.
I'd hate to lose him, but I hope Coyle gets a DC spot somewhere. He's due.
Coyle is now the Dolphins DC and Mike Sherman is the OC.
Ray Lewis being awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQ98PeDcPM&feature=related
Not there anymore, but at one point in the recent past if you wanted to buy a Billy Cundiff youth jersey from shoppingravens.com:
QuoteSHIPPING TIME: Leaves warehouse in 1 - 2 full bus. days - arrives in 3 - 5 bus. days, at the house to the left of yours.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/expect-delivery-billy-cundiff-jersey-wide-left-080349417.html
Poor Cundiff. If he had just stayed hurt, Shayne Graham would have choked in an even more spectacular fashion.
34 teams? Hmm... :hmm:
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2012/02/03/goodell_34_teams_likely_if_la_included/
Quote
Goodell: 34 teams likely if LA included
By Barry Wilner
AP Pro Football Writer / February 3, 2012
INDIANAPOLIS—Commissioner Roger Goodell says if the NFL puts a team in Los Angeles, it is probable the league would expand to 34 franchises.
Appearing Thursday night on "Costas Live" on NBC Sports Network, Goodell said the league "doesn't want to move any of our teams."
"We probably don't want to go to 33" teams by adding just one new club if a suitable stadium is built in the Los Angeles area, Goodell said. Instead, the league would consider adding two. An odd number of teams would pose scheduling problems, including at least one club being off each week, and would create one division with five teams.
There has been speculation an LA stadium could house two NFL franchises, although Goodell did not address that with host Bob Costas.
Goodell says there are several issues that must be solved in LA, particularly which of two current stadium proposals is best. He didn't suggest any timetable for returning to Southern California.
Goodell talked about head injuries and said the NFL was helping other sports and the military through its research into concussions.
"We're in a leadership position in sports. People look up to the National Football League," he said. "We do have a game that's rough. There are inherent risks playing it. But the second-highest incident of concussions is girls' soccer. So what we're learning about concussions in football is helping other sports. Not just every level of football, but every other sport.
"Now the NFL is sharing our research with the Defense Department to help treat our military personnel in the field."
Earlier in the program, Patriots owner Robert Kraft and several current and former players were asked about lawsuits against the league by ex-players who claim they weren't warned about or protected enough against brain trauma during their careers.
The Associated Press published a story Thursday based on interviews with a dozen former players who have filed suits against the league. What emerged was, at best, a depiction of a culture of indifference on the part of the league and its teams toward concussions and other injuries. At worst, there was a strong sense of a willful disregard for players' well-being.
"We have to protect our players," Kraft said. "The league is very strong in this area and I hope we are prolonging careers" with the NFL's concussion research."
Added Colts center Jeff Saturday, a member of the players' union executive board: "The reality is we don't know what kind of damage it is doing long term. It's the biggest problem we face in the NFL now."
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 03, 2012, 05:10:43 AM
There has been speculation an LA stadium could house two NFL franchises,
Why would they want to do that? :lol:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2012, 05:53:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 03, 2012, 05:10:43 AM
There has been speculation an LA stadium could house two NFL franchises,
Why would they want to do that? :lol:
If the NYC metro area can support 2 NFL franchises, then LA should be able to do so as well.
LA did and both teams left. Besides, LA is full of basketball and soccer fans.
How racist of you ET :(
Quote from: dps on February 03, 2012, 06:05:37 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2012, 05:53:20 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 03, 2012, 05:10:43 AM
There has been speculation an LA stadium could house two NFL franchises,
Why would they want to do that? :lol:
If the NYC metro area can support 2 NFL franchises, then LA should be able to do so as well.
They tried that. Twice. Didn't work.
The league continues to operate under the assumption that TV market power = NFL fans, and that's simply not true in LA.
Expansion would be a terrible idea. I am sure that is not a real plan, he just can't come out and tell Viking or Rams fans they are fucked.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2012, 06:07:55 AM
LA did and both teams left. Besides, LA is full of basketball and soccer fans.
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/3299.htm
Quote from: sbr on February 03, 2012, 08:35:59 AM
Expansion would be a terrible idea. I am sure that is not a real plan, he just can't come out and tell Viking or Rams fans they are fucked.
Minnesota and St. Louis both have sustainable football markets, even if their teams left wouldn't they get an expansion team or another moving team eventually?
Rams and comings are the 2 I hear are most likely to move.
To hell with expansion and LA.
Quote from: sbr on February 03, 2012, 10:52:24 AM
Rams and comings are the 2 I hear are most likely to move.
Then just send the Rams back to LA. That is where they belong anyway.
Hall of Fame class announced:
Curtis Martin
Willie Roaf
Chris Doleman
Dermotti Dawson
Cortez Kennedy
Jack Butler as "senior selection"
No WRs, specifically no Cris Carter, Tim Brown or Andre Reed. I am not sure why but WRs are treated very strange when it comes to HoF voting. It took Art Monk, what, like 15 years to get in? Cortez Kennedy was a very good DT, but over Carter?
Roaf? Dawson? Kennedy? Really?
Longevity, perhaps...but I see no real HOF material there, and I remember when all 3 were drafted.
I don't have much problem with Roaf and Dawson. O-linemen don't have many measurables to compare but they were both the best at their position (and the 2 most important positions on the line) for a decade.
T Sizzle, Associated Press NFL Defensive Player of the Year for the 2011-12 season.
Small consolation.
Roaf was, other than Ogden and Pace, the defining tackle of his era. I think he's got a place as much as Martin.
I would rather have had a Superbowl.
Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2012, 09:10:31 PM
Hall of Fame class announced:
Curtis Martin
Willie Roaf
Chris Doleman
Dermotti Dawson
Cortez Kennedy
Jack Butler as "senior selection"
No WRs, specifically no Cris Carter, Tim Brown or Andre Reed. I am not sure why but WRs are treated very strange when it comes to HoF voting. It took Art Monk, what, like 15 years to get in? Cortez Kennedy was a very good DT, but over Carter?
It's because the stats keep going up.
I recently read folks saying that and the attitude problems meant they weren't going to vote for Moss or Owens.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 04, 2012, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2012, 09:10:31 PM
Hall of Fame class announced:
Curtis Martin
Willie Roaf
Chris Doleman
Dermotti Dawson
Cortez Kennedy
Jack Butler as "senior selection"
No WRs, specifically no Cris Carter, Tim Brown or Andre Reed. I am not sure why but WRs are treated very strange when it comes to HoF voting. It took Art Monk, what, like 15 years to get in? Cortez Kennedy was a very good DT, but over Carter?
It's because the stats keep going up.
I recently read folks saying that and the attitude problems meant they weren't going to vote for Moss or Owens.
If the voters can't figure out why WR/QB numbers keep going up they should be punched in the cock and have their vote revoked.
And if they don't vote for those two because of their "attitude" they should die in a fire.
Neither of them is able to go in for years anyways. And isn't the normal procedure in these cases to let them sit for a year or two, and then let them in? Sort of like Michael Irvin?
Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2012, 10:54:50 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 04, 2012, 10:45:43 PM
It's because the stats keep going up.
I recently read folks saying that and the attitude problems meant they weren't going to vote for Moss or Owens.
If the voters can't figure out why WR/QB numbers keep going up they should be punched in the cock and have their vote revoked.
And if they don't vote for those two because of their "attitude" they should die in a fire.
I approve of this rant! :D
When is kickoff?
Well the coverage of the Super Bowl itself, instead of pregame shit, starts in about 45 minutes, so probably about 20 minutes after that. Maybe 30?
NFL.com listed the game for 6:30 eastern, so that's when I'm gonna turn on the tv.
Which just means 20 more minutes of bullshit.
I hate it, and this is the only time I'd ever do it, but I am a New Yawker tonight.
The pats cutting a WR a day before the game sorta angried up my blood even more. Nice class there Belishithead. I hope he chokes on Brady's cum.
FUCK. Tony Dungy. :(
Beligreasyshits dressed up as usual.
I'm watching the Superbowl with Chinese commentators.
They're the best ever because I can't understand a word they say. Every game should have them.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on February 05, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
I'm watching the Superbowl with Chinese commentators.
They're the best ever because I can't understand a word they say. Every game should have them.
You got a good stream?
It's on TV :)
The NFL authorized a live stream. My guess is that it will quickly be overwhelmed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/what-time-is-the-super-bowl_n_1253239.html
https://gamepass.nfl.com/nflgp/secure/packages?icampaign=GP_Superbowllive
:lmfao:
Saftey? WTF
Lulz
Safety on NE and Flava Flav in a Pepsi commercial in a 4 minutes span. :lol:
Fumble!
Oh...12 men on the field? Nice job New England.
E: Salsa dance.
:weep:
What a bunch of idiots. Usually the 12th guy is running off the field. Don't remember the last time I saw 12 men all lined up where they thought they were supposed to be. :lol:
I think Al Michaels may be drunk. The intentional grounding seemed to surprise him now he is calling the wrong guy on the kick return, that was Edelman not Woodhead.
Quote from: sbr on February 05, 2012, 06:57:07 PM
I think Al Michaels may be drunk. The intentional grounding seemed to surprise him now he is calling the wrong guy on the kick return, that was Edelman not Woodhead.
Doesn't he always call the game drunk?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 05, 2012, 07:08:59 PM
Quote from: sbr on February 05, 2012, 06:57:07 PM
I think Al Michaels may be drunk. The intentional grounding seemed to surprise him now he is calling the wrong guy on the kick return, that was Edelman not Woodhead.
Doesn't he always call the game drunk?
He might, he just seems off today.
my stream cut out at the beginning of that drive. I missed the score. :(
Where ever Tim is I want to hit him. Hard.
Very nice last drive by the Pats.
So far I've got to give the edge to the Gints. Pash rush is working, running game is working, Eli is hitting.
Poor Grundkowski looks like a paraplegic running routes on his stumps.
Last five minutes were rough on the Giants. They need to start hitting Brady. Hard. Like on his way out on the field.
Can't find another working stream, they're all overloaded it seems. :( :(
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 08:07:28 PM
Last five minutes were rough on the Giants. They need to start hitting Brady. Hard. Like on his way out on the field.
Or Bernard Pollard can come in from the stands and hit him in the knees. NWO style.
Shit
Awesome drive! :w00t:
Wish I had seen it. :weep:
Fuck off :)
Ouch
They need to mention that Lee Evans drop a few more times.
Quote from: sbr on February 05, 2012, 08:39:22 PM
They need to mention that Lee Evans drop a few more times.
No kidding. Because I missed it two weeks ago.
I need a TD and 2 pt conversion to win $50 in the work pool.
EDIT: Before the quarter ends.
EDIT2: Damn
:w00t:
Loved that hit by Chung on Nicks. Perfect.
So Giants were winning, then I fall asleep and wake up at the start of the 4th quarter where NE is up by two.
Damn it <_<
Fucking Patriots
whoa, that was a huge miss
The Chinese announcers really seem to love Manning.
They're always excited when talking about him.
:lol:
Secondary fucked us in the end, it was just a matter of time. <_<
Finally got him!! :showoff:
:cool:
Eli!
The forces of evil lose.
Nice game (well, 4th quarter).
Too bad NE didn't lose by 2 or less.
That was very close.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 05, 2012, 09:53:57 PM
The forces of evil lose.
I was about to post that! :mad:
:nelson:
I need a TV in this room. Ah well. Good game. Highlights: Man makes touchdown with his ass.
"Ladies and gentlemen, Raymond Berry of the Indianapolis Colts." :mad:
Ravens would've beaten this NY team we saw tonight. :(
Then they should've beaten the NE team we saw a couple weeks ago. :contract:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 05, 2012, 10:14:19 PM
Then they should've beaten the NE team we saw a couple weeks ago. :contract:
:P
lol, Belichick won't come out for his post-SB interview with NBC.
Ooooh, The Voice...I wonder if Christina dropped some of that baby weight from last year. She's so yummy. :wub:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 05, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 05, 2012, 10:14:19 PM
Then they should've beaten the NE team we saw a couple weeks ago. :contract:
:P
lol, Belichick won't come out for his post-SB interview with NBC.
Ooooh, The Voice...I wonder if Christina dropped some of that baby weight from last year. She's so yummy. :wub:
She is looking very tasty.
The Super Bowl was a great game like I expected; I'm not sure why people were upset about the matchup.
Had a deposition today out of town, ended up seeing the game on a 3 inch screen on a JetBlue seat back.
Plane ticket $400
Cheap JetBlue headset $2
NY bound plane full of passenger cheering tears o brady: priceless
Justice was done. The Patriots didn't belong in that Superbowl, so they were ejected. Nice job, Eli. Next time someone tries to tell you that you're not elite, you tell them to suck your cock and kiss your rings.
Quote from: Neil on February 05, 2012, 11:57:23 PM
you tell them to suck your cock and kiss your rings.
I'm sure there are people who would pay for that as a privilege.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 10:05:54 PM
I need a TV in this room. Ah well. Good game. Highlights: Man makes touchdown with his ass.
:D I'm so going to tease our token Pats fan at work about that tomorrow. "Dude, you guys lost to a Giant's
ass."
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 06, 2012, 12:21:45 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 05, 2012, 10:05:54 PM
I need a TV in this room. Ah well. Good game. Highlights: Man makes touchdown with his ass.
:D I'm so going to tease our token Pats fan at work about that tomorrow. "Dude, you guys lost to a Giant's ass."
At least we didn't lose to a helmet this time. <_<
I think this is first super bowl i completely missed since started following football.
Quote from: katmai on February 06, 2012, 12:44:54 AM
I think this is first super bowl i completely missed since started following football.
Objectively speaking, you didn't miss that much- there was plenty of sloppy playing going on on both sides; Manning and Brady both threw to open air quite a few times, Giants kept having to recover their own fumbles, and Branch kept missing balls that Brady threw
straight to him.
Also, as Raz mentioned, the winning touchdown was scored by an ass.
Literally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxfc1sA_rc
Quote from: katmai on February 06, 2012, 12:44:54 AM
I think this is first super bowl i completely missed since started following football.
I watched remarkably little as well. I've been kind of burned out on football since.... November? The terrible play of the Browns and Raiders, together with either no long term plan or a garbage one at that point has driven me into just not caring. I'm definitely looking forward to baseball, especially because the Sabres continue to fail. I feel like it's been a very. very long time since I've been truly excited to watch or listen to a game.
Quote from: katmai on February 06, 2012, 12:44:54 AM
I think this is first super bowl i completely missed since started following football.
Yeah, me too.
I watched the 1st and 4th quarters. And watched Holmes on Homes on HGTV in between. :blush:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 06, 2012, 01:14:14 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 06, 2012, 12:44:54 AM
I think this is first super bowl i completely missed since started following football.
Objectively speaking, you didn't miss that much- there was plenty of sloppy playing going on on both sides; Manning and Brady both threw to open air quite a few times, Giants kept having to recover their own fumbles, and Branch kept missing balls that Brady threw straight to him.
Also, as Raz mentioned, the winning touchdown was scored by an ass. Literally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxfc1sA_rc
I dunno - it wasn't a great game, but it was an entertaining game. Score was tight all the way through, game came down to the final play and could have gone either way.
But then again I haven't watched a football game since November.
What was also nice is that the NHL conveniently scheduled a Jets-Habs game in the afternoon. It was a cornucopia of sports. :)
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 09:40:59 AM
I dunno - it wasn't a great game, but it was an entertaining game. Score was tight all the way through, game came down to the final play and could have gone either way.
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
I agree about the competitiveness but I thought the game was lacking in big dramatic plays.
I also thought the Patriots had no choice but let them score. Better odds than hoping they miss a 2 yard field goal.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
I agree about the competitiveness but I thought the game was lacking in big dramatic plays.
I also thought the Patriots had no choice but let them score. Better odds than hoping they miss a 2 yard field goal.
I suppose football purists can enjoy "good defensive plays", but for me great football means high scoring and big dramatic plays.
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
I suppose football purists can enjoy "good defensive plays", but for me great football means high scoring and big dramatic plays.
Defense can make dramatic plays as well: monster sacks, penetrate and blow up a screen or a sweep, stick a run play in the hole, lay out for a batted down pass. I would have been happy with more of those. Instead what I saw a lot of was good coverage downfield and dink and dunk passes to outlet guys.
The let "let them score" strategy didn't seem to avail them. Though in that last minute the Pats were moving down the field pretty good. I thought for a moment that Brady might pull it off.
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
I agree about the competitiveness but I thought the game was lacking in big dramatic plays.
I also thought the Patriots had no choice but let them score. Better odds than hoping they miss a 2 yard field goal.
I suppose football purists can enjoy "good defensive plays", but for me great football means high scoring and big dramatic plays.
I hope the ghost of Woody Hayes punches you in the balls.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 06, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
I agree about the competitiveness but I thought the game was lacking in big dramatic plays.
I also thought the Patriots had no choice but let them score. Better odds than hoping they miss a 2 yard field goal.
I suppose football purists can enjoy "good defensive plays", but for me great football means high scoring and big dramatic plays.
I hope the ghost of Woody Hayes punches you in the balls.
Woody Hayes is dead man.
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 10:08:49 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 06, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
I agree about the competitiveness but I thought the game was lacking in big dramatic plays.
I also thought the Patriots had no choice but let them score. Better odds than hoping they miss a 2 yard field goal.
I suppose football purists can enjoy "good defensive plays", but for me great football means high scoring and big dramatic plays.
I hope the ghost of Woody Hayes punches you in the balls.
Woody Hayes is dead man.
Which is why he is a ghost. Sheesh.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
Defense can make dramatic plays as well: monster sacks, penetrate and blow up a screen or a sweep, stick a run play in the hole, lay out for a batted down pass. I would have been happy with more of those. Instead what I saw a lot of was good coverage downfield and dink and dunk passes to outlet guys.
There were several sacks, and there was an interception caught inside the 10 (course it was like a 40-50 yard pass or so).
Apparently Carl predicted it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-g2ACJjkcE&feature=relmfu Barrister, don't let your boy grow up like this.
BB's kid's gonna be a Jets fan.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 06, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
BB's kid's gonna be a Jets fan.
:shifty: Why ever do you say that?
Quote from: Barrister on February 06, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
Can't really ask for a whole lot more. Good defensive play on both sides (aside from the last TD, and btw I hate the "let them score" strategy) and a damned sight better than the string of mostly non-competitive games we had in the 90s & early 00s. We've been really spoiled the past 4 years.
I agree about the competitiveness but I thought the game was lacking in big dramatic plays.
I also thought the Patriots had no choice but let them score. Better odds than hoping they miss a 2 yard field goal.
I suppose football purists can enjoy "good defensive plays", but for me great football means high scoring and big dramatic plays.
I suppose I should clarify that I was talking about good defensive
play and not spectacular defensive plays.
The story about Pierre-Paul's blind no-English dad was kind of charming. Too bad by the time they got the camera on him he'd gotten so bored/confused by the French language broadcast that he'd stopped listening.
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
btw I hate the "let them score" strategy
Should be a rule that if a team scores a TD in the last 2 minutes, they can elect to either go for the PAT or take 40 seconds off the clock.
That would give the offense incentive to go for the TD and the defense to stop them.
Quote from: derspiess on February 06, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
btw I hate the "let them score" strategy
Trading points for time. Works for basketball.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 06, 2012, 01:05:34 PM
Trading points for time. Works for basketball.
Doesn't work for basketball; it makes the end of nearly every game into an interminable foul-fest.
I agree, the rules have been changed a bit in recent years to stop this but with little effect.
And now, the long dark time between football season and football season begins...
Now we start gearing up for March Madness. :)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 06, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
Now we start gearing up for March Madness. :)
The final push to the NHL playoffs. :)
Sounds a bit harsh.
I loved the game - loved watching both defenses, loved the Giants' use of both the run and short-pattern passes, loved the tight score and nailbiter ending. Great Super Bowl. It also had the added benefit of the correct result :)
Not at all. Only you and your direct descendants pay for your blasphemy. I didnt even mention your siblings, cousins, second cousins etc and their seed.
You got off pretty easy I thought.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 06, 2012, 02:24:59 PM
Sounds a bit harsh.
Some people get inexplicably excited about basketball.
Quote from: Neil on February 06, 2012, 03:22:27 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 06, 2012, 02:24:59 PM
Sounds a bit harsh.
Some people get inexplicably excited about basketball.
The biggest problem with college basketball is the same as the problem with the NBA--it's only interesting once the regular season is over.
I am surrounded by morons.
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 06, 2012, 03:42:05 PM
I am surrounded by morons.
Watching a basketball game with some other fans, huh? :console: :P
It's fun to shoot hoops but watching basketball is a bore.
Quote from: PRC on February 06, 2012, 06:16:05 PM
It's fun to shoot hoops but watching basketball is a bore.
I can accept this. Especially now that Magic, Bird and Jordan aren't playing anymore.
QuoteRavens backup running back Ricky Williams announced Tuesday that he is retiring from the NFL, but later in the afternoon, the 34-year-old told 560-WQAM in South Florida that he could change his mind.
Asked by WQAM if there is a chance he'll return to the NFL, he said, "Well," then paused. "The easy answer is I've moved on. But the thing I've learned about myself is, who the hell knows?"
:lol: Go fig.
The really great thing about the NFL season ending is that the Mike & Mike show was all basketball all the time this morning.
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 09, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
The really great thing about the NFL season ending is that the Mike & Mike show was all basketball all the time this morning.
The terrible thing about the NFL season is it makes any ESPN Radio program unlistenable.
Quote from: PRC on February 06, 2012, 06:16:05 PM
It's fun to shoot hoops but watching basketball is a bore.
It used to be fun shooting hoops when I didn't wear myself out in 10 minutes.