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QuoteIMF CHIEF ARRESTED IN NEW YORK FOR ALLEGEDLY FORCING HOTEL MAID TO GIVE HIM ORAL SEX

Joe Weisenthal|May 14, 2011, 6:54 PM|7,199|53

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the head of the IMF, was arrested in New York on allegations that he forced or attempted to force a maid at the Sofitel hotel in Manhattan to perform oral sex on him.

The New York Post was first to break the news that the IMF chief was hauled off an Air France flight two minutes before it was due to take off, and taken into custody by the NYPD.

Here's its description of the events that transpired in the hotel:

The trouble began around noon today, when a housekeeper entered Strauss-Kahn's room at the Sofitel on West 44th Street.

Strauss-Kahn was in his bathroom, said sources. He emerged from the bathroom naked, said the sources, and grabbed her.

Then, Strauss-Kahn allegedly threw the housekeeper on the room's bed and forced her to perform oral sex on him, said the sources

The New York Daily news puts it a different way, saying that the maid escaped:

Strauss-Kahn, 62, allegedly crept up behind a maid after she entered his room and forced her to perform oral sex on him, sources said.

The woman broke free and ran out of the room. Strauss-Khan quickly headed for the airport, sources said.

He has been seen as a potential future candidate for Prime Minister of France.

This is not the first time he's been involved in a sex scandal. Back in 2008 there was a story of the IMF investigating an improper sexual relationship with a subordinate.

And approximately a year ago, a book described his string of extra-marital affairs.

The Telegraph wrote this almost exactly one year ago:

The leader French Socialist and former finance minister is considered perhaps the only politician in a position to beat President Nicolas Sarkozy should he run against him in elections in 2012. But according to the book - said to be written by a close female aide - his penchant for the opposite sex could knock him out of the race even before it starts.

Meanwhile, The Guardian has a story -- actually dated tomorrow -- about how Strauss-Kahn is suing a French newspaper that made claims about his super-rich lifestyle, such as buying expensive, tailored suits.

He was due to meet with Angela Merkel this weekend on Euro-crisis matters.

QuoteNY police say IMF head Strauss-Kahn in custody

NEW YORK | Sat May 14, 2011 9:34pm EDT

(Reuters) - IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn was taken into custody on Saturday at JFK airport in New York and was being questioned in regard to a sexual assault, a New York police spokesman told Reuters.

Spokesman Paul Browne said the woman who filed the complaint against Strauss-Kahn, 62, was a 32-year-old chambermaid who fled the room after the incident.

Strauss-Kahn, a possible Socialist candidate in the French presidential election next April, left the hotel after the incident and boarded an Air France aircraft scheduled to depart for Paris, the police spokesman said.

"The NYPD realized he had fled, he had left his cell phone behind," Browne said. "We learned he was on an Air France plane. They held the plane and he was taken off and is now being held in police custody for questioning."

Browne said Strauss-Kahn had not been charged.

Police said the alleged incident took place at the upscale Sofitel hotel on West 44th Street near Times Square.

The chambermaid "was brought by EMS (emergency medical services) to the Roosevelt Hotel, where she was treated for minor injuries," Brown said.

Strauss-Kahn took over the International Monetary Fund in November 2007. Before that, he was a member of the French National Assembly and a professor of economics at the Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris.

The IMF declined to comment and board officials said they had not been informed officially of the incident.

In October 2008, Strauss-Kahn apologized for "an error of judgment" in an affair with a subordinate, but denied he had abused his position.

Strauss-Kahn apologized to employees, the woman he had the affair with, Piroska Nagy, and his wife, French television personality Anne Sinclair, for the trouble it had caused.

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 14, 2011, 10:30:22 PM
Dominique is a man's name?  :huh:

Quote from: barkdreg on May 14, 2011, 11:22:45 PM
Mitterand used to say: 'Et alors?'
Loosely translated 'so what?'
I don't care if my premier is a horny bastard that fucks around, it's his politics that I care about.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 14, 2011, 11:27:43 PM

Quote from: barkdreg on May 14, 2011, 11:22:45 PM
Mitterand used to say: 'Et alors?'
Loosely translated 'so what?'
I don't care if my premier is a horny bastard that fucks around, it's his politics that I care about.

This rape we're talking about, not sleeping around.

Quote from: Syt on May 15, 2011, 01:39:30 AM
I'm betting that Slargos will show up and decide that this is a result more of the man's Jewishness than Frenchness and declare it a metaphore what the International Jewish Money Conspiracy(tm) does to the world.

Quote from: Drakken on May 14, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
Just in: NYPD revenge on the weasel Frenchies for their lack of support for Iraq War II? :lol:

Quote from: Martinus on May 15, 2011, 04:20:56 AM
What's up with Jews in power raping people? First the ex Israeli president and now this.
(...)
Besides, aren't we already over the whole "OMG you didn't help in Iraq" thing? One would think that as a nation of idiots duped by a lying President to go into a disastrous conflict, you'd not actually want to keep bringing up this fiasco...

Quote from: Scipio on May 15, 2011, 07:32:12 AM
Americans, presumably NYPD, who arrested said rapist, don't think the rape is wrong?  Fucking eggplant douchebags...

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 15, 2011, 07:45:27 AM
A certain group of Languish posters who have not yet appeared in this thread? :yeahright:

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 07:27:16 AM

The only reason why DSK is being persecuted is because he was a political threat to president Sarkozy (also a horny bastard), and thus this makes a good excuse to get him. If that wasn't the case, this incident would have been buried like his previous offences were.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

Quote from: Scipio on May 15, 2011, 07:32:12 AM
Americans, presumably NYPD, who arrested said rapist, don't think the rape is wrong?  Fucking eggplant douchebags...

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

Quote from: Caliga on May 15, 2011, 08:47:52 AM

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

You're living in a fantasy world. :)

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2011, 10:14:45 AM

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

:lol:  You're assuming the rank and file NYPD knows what the IMF is.  Everybody knows it's a semi-pro hockey league.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2011, 10:14:45 AM

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

:lol:  You're assuming the rank and file NYPD knows what the IMF is.  Everybody knows it's a semi-pro hockey league.

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 15, 2011, 07:30:04 AM
The head of the IMF is a capitalist?

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 07:27:16 AM
Wealthy capitalists like to rape working women. Film at 11.

Quote from: Razgovory on May 15, 2011, 10:29:18 AM

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 15, 2011, 07:30:04 AM
The head of the IMF is a capitalist?

Not inconceivable.  But, the guy is a member of the Socialist Party in France.

Quote from: Caliga on May 15, 2011, 08:47:52 AM
You're living in a fantasy world. :)

QuoteDominique Strauss-Kahn faces further claim of sexual assault

Socialist party official says her daughter was left traumatised after alleged attack by Strauss-Kahn in 2002


    * Kim Willsher in Paris
    * The Guardian, Monday 16 May 2011
    * Article history

By this time next year, Dominique Strauss-Kahn might well have been president of France. The 62-year-old was by far the most popular choice to be the Socialist presidential candidate, and he was the only contender seen as capable of unseating Nicolas Sarkozy.

But now his plan to run for the Elysée Palace appears to be in ruins, even without resolution of the New York case, after further allegations against him were broadcast on French television on Sunday night.

A local official of the Socialist party claimed that Strauss-Kahn had attacked her daughter, who is goddaughter to Strauss-Kahn's second wife, in 2002.

Tristane Banon was in her 20s and writing a book when she approached Strauss-Kahn for an interview in 2002. In a TV programme in 2007, in which Strauss-Kahn's name had been bleeped out, Banon allegedly described him as a "rutting chimpanzee" and described how she was forced to fight him off. "It finished badly ... very violently ... I kicked him," Banon said. "When we were fighting, I mentioned the word 'rape' to make him afraid, but it didn't have any effect. I managed to get out."

Banon consulted a lawyer, but did not press charges. "I didn't want to be known to the end of my days as the girl who had a problem with the politician."

Banon's mother, Anne Mansouret, told journalists on Sunday night she had dissuaded her daughter from legal action because she believed Strauss-Kahn's behaviour had been out of character and because of close links with his family. "Today I am sorry to have discouraged my daughter from complaining. I bear a heavy responsibility," she said.

She said Strauss-Kahn was "an otherwise warm, sympathetic and extremely talented man", but the attack left her daughter depressed and traumatised. "My daughter, despite the passing years, is still shocked by these facts. Her life was completely upset by this affair and she was depressed for a long time." She added that it was clear Strauss-Kahn had "difficulty controlling his urges". She said: "I'm not a doctor or psychiatrist, but there is something violent in this predatory move."

Of the half-a-dozen candidates expected to seek the Socialist party nomination in the autumn, Strauss-Kahn was the frontrunner. A poll for the Parisien newspaper, before the furore erupted, gave him 41% among members of his party, way ahead of his nearest rival. With Sarkozy's popularity at a record low, "DSK" was on track to get to the Elysée Palace in the two-round election next year.

However, supporters warned him the fight would be dirty. Last week he claimed to be victim of a "smear campaign" orchestrated by the French president after details emerged of his luxury lifestyle, with photos of him climbing into a friend's £87,000 Porsche outside his £3.5m Paris home. Another paper claimed he had a penchant for suits costing anything up to £22,000, an allegation he denied and over which he threatened legal action. His supporters dismissed the stories as mud-slinging.

But in 2008, after a well-documented affair with Piroska Nagy a Hungarian economist and a junior colleague at the IMF, he was forced to publicly apologise for "an error of judgment", but was cleared of abusing his position. He insisted the relationship was consensual, but when his wife, journalist Anne Sinclair, described it as a "one-night stand", an indignant Nagy wrote to investigators saying: "I was not prepared for the advances of the IMF director general. I didn't know what to do ... I felt damned if I do, damned if I don't." Nagy left her job at the IMF after the affair, and hinted at harassment of female staff, adding that her boss had "without question" used his position to seduce her.

Sinclair, Strauss-Kahn's third wife, told journalists she had forgiven her husband: "We love each other as much as before."

Strauss-Kahn's alleged womanising appears to have been an open secret in French political circles for years. Thierry Saussez, a former adviser to Sarkozy, who took part in the TV show with Banon, said: "All this stupefaction from people is sheer hypocrisy. Everyone in Paris has known for years he had something of a problem. Not many female journalists are prepared to interview him alone these days."

In 2009, the radio satirist Stephane Guillon dedicated his morning comedy slot on France Inter to Strauss-Kahn's "obsession with females". Some commentators suggested his behaviour was a reflection of French culture. In 2000 French writers Vincent Giret and Véronique Le Billon wrote almost presciently in their biography of him: "There is only one thing this famous man has avoided ... a fall from grace."

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:01:03 PM

Strauss-Kahn's alleged womanising appears to have been an open secret in French political circles for years. Thierry Saussez, a former adviser to Sarkozy, who took part in the TV show with Banon, said: "All this stupefaction from people is sheer hypocrisy. Everyone in Paris has known for years he had something of a problem. Not many female journalists are prepared to interview him alone these days."

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2011, 04:51:34 AM
So he has an issue with sexually assaulting women.  He's French.  Is it really going to affect his political chances next year?

Quote from: The Brain on May 16, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
Oh he'll serve be served.

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

Quote from: garbon on May 16, 2011, 11:28:06 AM
I wonder if Merkel is sad that their meeting got cancelled.

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 08:20:50 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
NYP couldn't care less about the Sarkozy. If you don't think people of all classes are arrested for rape in America you're a moron.

And if you think that when the cops found out that the case involved the IMF head there weren't an awful lot of phone calls going to and fro between Washington/Paris/The IMF before a decision was made to arrest him, you're severely delusional.

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 05:06:21 PM
I await the Law and Order:SVU episode next season.

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 05:06:21 PM
I await the Law and Order:SVU episode next season.

Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2011, 05:48:07 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 05:06:21 PM
I await the Law and Order:SVU episode next season.

Won't be till fall :(

Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2011, 05:48:07 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 05:06:21 PM
I await the Law and Order:SVU episode next season.

Won't be till fall :(

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 05:50:39 PM

Quote from: katmai on May 16, 2011, 05:48:07 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 05:06:21 PM
I await the Law and Order:SVU episode next season.

Won't be till fall :(

Ice-T beating up a frenchman? Can't wait.

Quote from: Drakken on May 16, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Rumors simmer from French-speaking sources that it's not the first time DSK has "his ways" with the room service ladies at the Sofitel hotels, but that the French administrators made pressures to hush the victims up about it.

Quote from: Faeelin on May 16, 2011, 06:55:18 PM

Quote from: Drakken on May 16, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Rumors simmer from French-speaking sources that it's not the first time DSK has "his ways" with the room service ladies at the Sofitel hotels, but that the French administrators made pressures to hush the victims up about it.

So what's actually going on is France is the corrupt banana republic where the elites can rape without any punishment. Sensible.

Quote from: Zoupa on May 16, 2011, 06:57:40 PM

Quote from: Faeelin on May 16, 2011, 06:55:18 PM

Quote from: Drakken on May 16, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Rumors simmer from French-speaking sources that it's not the first time DSK has "his ways" with the room service ladies at the Sofitel hotels, but that the French administrators made pressures to hush the victims up about it.

So what's actually going on is France is the corrupt banana republic where the elites can rape without any punishment. Sensible.

Huh, no   :huh:

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
All I know is, Le Monde and Liberation is a bit funny to read in the past few days.

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on May 16, 2011, 10:48:43 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
All I know is, Le Monde and Liberation is a bit funny to read in the past few days.

What's the French equivalent of "Freedom Fries"?

Quote from: Syt on May 17, 2011, 05:17:00 AM
So, who'll succeed to the IMF lordship?

Quote from: Drakken on May 17, 2011, 07:08:15 AM
At least Berlusconi didn't rape anyone, so my vote goes to Il Cavaliere.  :sleep:

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 16, 2011, 11:10:36 PM

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on May 16, 2011, 10:48:43 PM

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 16, 2011, 07:34:30 PM
All I know is, Le Monde and Liberation is a bit funny to read in the past few days.

What's the French equivalent of "Freedom Fries"?

French Fries

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 17, 2011, 07:45:00 AM

Quote from: Drakken on May 17, 2011, 07:08:15 AM
At least Berlusconi didn't rape anyone, so my vote goes to Il Cavaliere.  :sleep:

Yeah, atleast Berlu's as the decency to pay at the end of the nite.

It might have been mentioned, I haven't read the thread, but the French Press is leaning "conspiracy" on this one.

Quote from: DGuller on May 17, 2011, 08:15:25 AM

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 17, 2011, 07:45:00 AM

Quote from: Drakken on May 17, 2011, 07:08:15 AM
At least Berlusconi didn't rape anyone, so my vote goes to Il Cavaliere.  :sleep:

Yeah, atleast Berlu's as the decency to pay at the end of the nite.

It might have been mentioned, I haven't read the thread, but the French Press is leaning "conspiracy" on this one.

:lol:  It always amuses me how people from third world countries assume that America works just like their homeland.

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 17, 2011, 06:36:59 PM

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Translate it!

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French to English translation
A jewel of the French political class is arrested for sexual assault in New York. France is in turmoil. France is accustomed to that kind of history remains hidden under the covers.

This is not me saying that.

This is the book Sexus Politicus, a survey of journalists and Christophe Dubois Christophe Deloire on the habits of 'political' French, published in 2006.

The investigation of MM. Dubois Deloire and confirms that, in libertinism elected officials, France is a cultural exception. It is in this regard, the exact opposite of prudish America.

The American politician caught in the act of adultery can reasonably expect that the new one makes the Washington Post.

The president, himself, may have a mistress, a child and make him the confidence to stay at the presidential palace without being troubled by the media, the new fall silent.

This was the case, famous, Francois Mitterrand.

Of course, you can admire the French reservation in respect of the private lives of politicians. I am. But this reserve is not a lack of interest: Sexus politicus highlights the obsession of French political ecosystem for the sex lives of its members.

An ecosystem where the cops and spies of the state "provide information" as interior minister or president as the intimate secrets of such an enemy, like rival of such an object of desire ...

What MM. Deloire and Dubois describe, especially, is a climate of extreme tolerance for sexual excesses of French politicians. A climate where the cops on the orders of their political masters, close their eyes when they surprised a high placed in a compromising position of potentially criminal nature.

Page 234 of Sexus Politicus: "Over 10 years later, under another government, even the former minister was arrested with a young boy of 15 years in the underground car park of the Centre Beaubourg. And thanks to a fairy godmother, the matter will again be stifled. This indulgence is also the limit of this system for protecting many notables. "

Further, page 280, about famous people "arrested in positions scabrous," the authors write that former Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin "also tells anyone who will listen that generally, it settled for a phone call with Sarkozy (then Minister of Interior) and that nobody had heard. "

A phone call, and it is buried.

Back to Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Sexus politicus discusses the sexual escapades of the man who was already considered in 2006 as "presidential." One chapter, "The case DSK", she even spent! It talks about his advances "displaced" to French journalists, but kill things known, and his attendance of a libertine club.

Also mentioned by the authors: the disturbing story of this writer 24 years, Tristane Banon, who had to physically repel the advances of DSK. Today, the story of Ms. Banon returns to haunt the deposed leader of the IMF. But at the time? Omerta. Page 365: "The case, at the time, caused an uproar in the corridors of power, but the press ignores it."

I repeat: the French press knows that a flagship of the Socialist Party has made what amounts to advance "tough" to a young woman of 24 years.

But the press does not investigate. She does not worry DSK.

I summarize ...

You are a French politician. Historically, you know that France is a cultural exception, not the pranks she n'ébruite deprived of its political class. Even when they are of public interest.

Historically, the excuse of the right to "privacy" conveniently covers all the nonsense you do with your dick. Even when these are potentially criminal mischief.

Journalists are in cahoots. As the cops. As your friends - and even your enemies - political. We know. But it remains silent.

With this impunity, maybe one day when you go out naked in the bathroom of your hotel room, maybe the back of the maid, please ...

You forget - the flesh is weak - that the hotel room where you walk in hair is in a country where political culture, judicial and media is the exact opposite of that of la douce France.

A country where impunity, at least for these things, does not exist. Page 208 of Sexus Politicus: "For America and sex is quite a story, and different from ours. The drives are the same as in France, but not social rules. "

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
Duh, everybody knows France loves rape since Depardieu made it cool.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 17, 2011, 06:36:59 PM

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Translate it!

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 17, 2011, 06:50:17 PM
GT clearly isn't perfect, but it looks better than it used to be.

One thing about this story that does bug me a little is the line of thinking that "some mere maid can destroy such an important man". Frankly, the fact that a mere hotel housekeeper can get the (hopeful) next President of any country arrested and yanked off a plane because she was wronged by him is an example of something that is very right about the United States.

Quote from: Monoriu on May 17, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
Am I the only one who is amazed about the quality of the online translator?  I've always thought that such translators are utter crap, because every time I use it, I get gibberish.  But that article was actually largely understandable. 

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I usually try to translate Japanese into Chinese, or English.

Quote from: Monoriu on May 17, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
Am I the only one who is amazed about the quality of the online translator?  I've always thought that such translators are utter crap, because every time I use it, I get gibberish.  But that article was actually largely understandable. 

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I usually try to translate Japanese into Chinese, or English.

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2011, 07:19:15 PM

Quote from: Monoriu on May 17, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
Am I the only one who is amazed about the quality of the online translator?  I've always thought that such translators are utter crap, because every time I use it, I get gibberish.  But that article was actually largely understandable. 

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I usually try to translate Japanese into Chinese, or English.

Google's toolbar translator of the major languages ain't bad.

Slovak... utter crap though.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 17, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
Is there any reason to believe these charges have legitimacy? It would suck if this was completely made up and Dominique is going to have to sit in jail for a while.

Quote from: grumbler on May 17, 2011, 09:15:53 PM

Quote from: alfred russel on May 17, 2011, 07:55:25 PM
Is there any reason to believe these charges have legitimacy? It would suck if this was completely made up and Dominique is going to have to sit in jail for a while.

Circumstantial evidence, it seems.  Guy runs out of the hotel, takes the first plane (no reservation), and calls the hotel to make sure he didn't leave anything behind (don't know if he did).

All this from an excited radio op-ed piece, though, so some salt may be indicated.  Still, if true, it has some weight.  Maybe not a lot.

Quote from: HVC on May 17, 2011, 09:19:45 PM
if he was trying to flee why call the hotel to see if he forgot something?

Quote from: Martim Silva on May 15, 2011, 07:27:16 AM


Wealthy people are corrupt at heart and truly believe they can do anything to any poor person whenever they want, without consequence. And I've seen that happen. My grandfather and uncle always raped their maids.

Quote from: HVC on May 17, 2011, 09:19:45 PM
*edit and when was his stay up? i thought i had heard that his reservation was over when he signed out.

Quote from: Razgovory on May 17, 2011, 09:26:25 PM
What is it with Europeans and rape?

Quote from: citizen k on May 17, 2011, 10:07:14 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/forensic-evidence-against-dominique-strauss-kahn-sex-assault-2011-5 (http://www.businessinsider.com/forensic-evidence-against-dominique-strauss-kahn-sex-assault-2011-5)

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Quote from: Zoupa on May 18, 2011, 12:02:06 AM

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated?  :lol:

Really viper? You think rape is widely tolerated.

Wow.

I have no comment. There's no need to call me out each time some shit goes down involving a french dude. I wouldn't give DSK the steam off my piss, so he can rot in jail for all I care.

Quote from: Drakken on May 16, 2011, 05:02:38 PM
Rumors simmer from French-speaking sources that it's not the first time DSK has "his ways" with the room service ladies at the Sofitel hotels, but that the French administrators made pressures to hush the victims up about it.

Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 06:43:57 PM

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
Duh, everybody knows France loves rape since Depardieu made it cool.

Thank heaven for little girls
For little girls get bigger every day!

Thank heaven for little girls
They grow up in the most delightful way!
Those little eyes so helpless and appealing
One day will flash and send you crashin thru the ceilin
Thank heaven for little girls
Thank heaven for them all,
No matter where no matter who
For without them,
what would little boys do?

Quote from: Zoupa on May 18, 2011, 12:02:06 AM

Quote from: viper37 on May 17, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Zoupa!  What do you think of this:
Article de Cyberpresse concernant Sexus politicus (http://www.cyberpresse.ca/chroniqueurs/patrick-lagace/201105/16/01-4400098-sexe-mutisme-et-impunite.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B40_chroniqueurs_373561_accueil_POS1)

Apparently, rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated for politicians in France, wich explains why so many media seem so surprised DSK was arrested.

Rape and juvenile prostitution are widely tolerated?  :lol:

Really viper? You think rape is widely tolerated.

Wow.

I have no comment. There's no need to call me out each time some shit goes down involving a french dude. I wouldn't give DSK the steam off my piss, so he can rot in jail for all I care.

Quote from: Martinus on May 18, 2011, 01:30:47 AM
That's disgusting. He stays at a Sofitel.  :yucky:

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
That's what makes me think the guy is a dumbass. Wanted to fuck? All he needed to do was to send an assistant at the reception to anonymously ask numbers for call-girls who like it rough and "forced". All luxury hotels have these available for customers.

Quote from: DGuller on May 18, 2011, 10:18:53 AM

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
That's what makes me think the guy is a dumbass. Wanted to fuck? All he needed to do was to send an assistant at the reception to anonymously ask numbers for call-girls who like it rough and "forced". All luxury hotels have these available for customers.

:shutup:

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:12:38 AM

Quote from: Martinus on May 18, 2011, 01:30:47 AM
That's disgusting. He stays at a Sofitel.  :yucky:

At 3000$ per night, he surely had access to the best service Sofitel could supply. In everything.

That's what makes me think the guy is a dumbass. Wanted to fuck? All he needed to do was to send an assistant at the reception to anonymously ask numbers for call-girls who like it rough and "forced". All luxury hotels have these available for customers.

He was in the thrill of the hunt? Why not just to down to the bar on the first floor and seduce one of the high class women taking a drink there, and bring her back to his room?

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
I think you are making in mistake in assuming that the urge to rape stems from not having any outlets.

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:29:37 AM

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
I think you are making in mistake in assuming that the urge to rape stems from not having any outlets.

No, it comes from an urge for dominating women, mixed with sadism and a lack of respect for others' well-being. It's clear that, to DSK, this woman was nothing but a thing to be used and abused.

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:29:37 AM

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
I think you are making in mistake in assuming that the urge to rape stems from not having any outlets.

No, it comes from an urge for dominating women, mixed with sadism and a lack of respect for others' well-being. It's clear that, to DSK, this woman was nothing but a thing to be used and abused.

Yet quite a few men are like that, but they don't rape. They just find women who like it rougher and are submissive. So why DSK, who is thought until now to be an intelligent man capable of self-control, did not have any here? There's something more to it, it's not just a man believing he is above the law.

I tend to think this is not his first rape (and yes I mean rape rape), but we'll never know.

Quote from: Barrister on May 18, 2011, 10:34:24 AM
You are making far too many generalities.  I'm sure that for some, rape / sexual assault is about an urge to dominante women.  But not for others - indeed some do it out of a desire for "love", while others in fact do it merely because the opportunity presents itself.

But in short, any time someone says "people commit this crime because of X" they are inevitably wrong for at least some offenders.

Quote from: Razgovory on May 18, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Seems that most French believe it's some kind of conspiracy.

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.

Quote from: Caliga on May 18, 2011, 12:41:11 PM

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.

I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 18, 2011, 12:27:48 PM

What's really funny is that DSK said, back in April, that he wouldn't surprise if is adversaries paid 1 millions to have a women accused him of rape in a parking lot.

Dude knew better.

Quote from: Malthus on May 18, 2011, 12:43:39 PM

Quote from: Caliga on May 18, 2011, 12:41:11 PM

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.

I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:

It's only common knowledge if you have the secret seduction community manual.  ;)

Quote from: Martinus on May 18, 2011, 01:30:47 AM
That's disgusting. He stays at a Sofitel.  :yucky:

Quote from: Zoupa on May 18, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
Thank you for your contribution old man. You bring so much to every thread.

Quote from: DGuller on May 18, 2011, 10:18:53 AM

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
That's what makes me think the guy is a dumbass. Wanted to fuck? All he needed to do was to send an assistant at the reception to anonymously ask numbers for call-girls who like it rough and "forced". All luxury hotels have these available for customers.

:shutup:

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 18, 2011, 01:06:34 PM

Quote from: Martinus on May 18, 2011, 01:30:47 AM
That's disgusting. He stays at a Sofitel.  :yucky:

?

I've only been to the DC one; it was quite nice.

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 12:59:59 PM

Quote from: Malthus on May 18, 2011, 12:43:39 PM

Quote from: Caliga on May 18, 2011, 12:41:11 PM

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.

I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:

It's only common knowledge if you have the secret seduction community manual.  ;)

I think they had an episode about it on Law & Order: SVU. ^_^

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Seeing as how Marti hangs out with the movers and shakers of the world, I defer to his judgment about what is in and what is out. -_- 

Quote from: katmai on May 18, 2011, 01:28:16 PM
The sofitel in Philly was pretty nice. At least back when stayed at it.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 18, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
I spent some time in a Mecure (run by Accor, the same people as Sofitel, but a notch lower in quality) in Poland and it was a hellhole. The reward program sucks too. Maybe Accor in Poland is not very good.

Quote from: The Brain on May 18, 2011, 01:31:15 PM

Quote from: katmai on May 18, 2011, 01:28:16 PM
The sofitel in Philly was pretty nice. At least back when stayed at it.

At least you can talk to the cleaning staff. The rest of us aren't so lucky.

Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 06:43:57 PM

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
Duh, everybody knows France loves rape since Depardieu made it cool.

Thank heaven for little girls
For little girls get bigger every day!

Thank heaven for little girls
They grow up in the most delightful way!
Those little eyes so helpless and appealing
One day will flash and send you crashin thru the ceilin
Thank heaven for little girls
Thank heaven for them all,
No matter where no matter who
For without them,
what would little boys do?

Quote from: alfred russel on May 18, 2011, 01:34:08 PM
I spent some time in a Mecure (run by Accor, the same people as Sofitel, but a notch lower in quality) in Poland and it was a hellhole. The reward program sucks too. Maybe Accor in Poland is not very good.

Quote from: dps on May 18, 2011, 02:14:48 PM
Accor?  The Motel 6 owners?  Ok, I can kind of see where Marti's disdain comes from.

Quote from: Ideologue on May 18, 2011, 02:14:27 PM

Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 06:43:57 PM

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 17, 2011, 06:38:27 PM
Duh, everybody knows France loves rape since Depardieu made it cool.

Thank heaven for little girls
For little girls get bigger every day!

Thank heaven for little girls
They grow up in the most delightful way!
Those little eyes so helpless and appealing
One day will flash and send you crashin thru the ceilin
Thank heaven for little girls
Thank heaven for them all,
No matter where no matter who
For without them,
what would little boys do?

That movie's not really all that funny, but that was one hilarious fucking scene.

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 18, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/dominique-strauss-kahn-bernard-henri-levy-ben-stein_n_863633.html?ir=World

:mellow:

Quote from: grumbler on May 18, 2011, 01:30:13 PM

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Seeing as how Marti hangs out with the movers and shakers of the world, I defer to his judgment about what is in and what is out. -_- 

Exactly.  Loser has-beens like the head of the IMF stay at hotels like the Sofitel; Marti and his mover-and-shaker pals stay in much better digs.

Quote from: grumbler on May 18, 2011, 01:24:37 PM

Quote from: Zoupa on May 18, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
Thank you for your contribution old man. You bring so much to every thread.

Just curious:  do you think these tired, cliched personal attacks improve, or damage, your rep here at Languish?

QuoteNY police look for DNA in hotel carpet in IMF case
By TOM HAYS AND COLLEEN LONG, Associated Press

NEW YORK – Investigators cut out a piece of carpet in a painstaking search of a penthouse suite for DNA evidence in IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn's sex assault case, law enforcement officials said Wednesday as he made a new bid to get out of jail.

New York detectives and prosecutors believe the carpet in the hotel room may contain Strauss-Kahn's semen, spat out after an episode of forced oral sex by a hotel maid, the officials told The Associated Press.

Strauss-Kahn, jailed at Rikers Island since Monday, made a second appeal for bail and proposed to be confined to his daughter's Manhattan home 24 hours a day with electronic monitoring. He was set for another hearing Thursday afternoon.

The French politician said in court papers that he had surrendered his passport and wouldn't flee the country. "I do not intend to leave the United States of America without the permission of the New York Court," he said.

In addition to examining the Sofitel Hotel suite for further potential DNA evidence, investigators were looking at the maid's keycard to determine whether she used it to enter the room, and how long she was there, officials said.

One of the officials said that the DNA testing was being "fast-tracked" but that the results could still be a few days away.

The two officials spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because neither was authorized to speak about the case publicly and because it has gone to a grand jury.

The maid, a 32-year-old immigrant from the West African nation of Guinea, told police that the 62-year-old Strauss-Kahn came out of the bathroom naked, chased her down, forced her to perform oral sex on him and tried to remove her underwear before she broke free and fled the room.

The AP does not identify alleged victims of sex crimes unless they agree to it.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly declined to comment Wednesday on the details of the evidence-gathering but said results of any DNA and other testing have not yet come back. He said the detectives investigating the case found the maid's story believable.

"Obviously, the credibility of the complainant is a factor in cases of this nature," Kelly said. "One of the things they're trained to look for, and what was reported to me early on, was that the complainant was credible."

One of Strauss-Kahn's attorneys, Benjamin Brafman, said at his client's arraignment this week that the forensic evidence "will not be consistent with a forcible encounter." That led to speculation the defense would argue it was consensual sex.

The woman's lawyer, Jeffrey Shapiro, has dismissed suggestions from some of Strauss-Kahn's defenders that she made up the charges or tried to cover up a consensual encounter.

In court papers filed Wednesday, Strauss-Kahn's attorneys proposed posting $1 million cash bail and confining him to the home of his daughter, Camille, a Columbia University graduate student, 24 hours a day with electronic monitoring.

Strauss-Kahn "is a loving husband and father, and a highly regarded diplomat, politician, lawyer, politician, economist and professor, with no criminal record," his attorneys said in court papers.

The attorneys had proposed similar conditions at an earlier bail hearing but added the promise of home detention Wednesday. A judge denied Strauss-Kahn bail Monday, sending him to an isolated wing of Rikers Island.

The motion for bail also laid out a more precise timeline for Strauss-Kahn's movements while arguing he never tried to flee: It says he checked out of the hotel at 12:28 p.m., went to a lunch appointment a few blocks away at 12:45 p.m. and went to the airport afterward.

"Prior to the flight's departure, Mr. Strauss-Kahn contacted the hotel at which he had been staying in New York to inquire about a cell phone he had left at the hotel," it added. "In a conversation with hotel security, Mr. Strauss-Kahn voluntarily disclosed that he was at John F. Kennedy International Airport and was scheduled to depart for France at 4:40 p.m."

Police on Wednesday offered their own timeline for their response starting with a 911 call at 1:32 p.m. from hotel security saying an employee had been sexually assaulted by a guest. Officers arrived by no later than 1:45 p.m. and summoned paramedics and special victims detectives to the scene, they said.

Manhattan prosecutors didn't immediately comment on the bail motion. The hearing was set for 2:15 p.m. Thursday. Another hearing had been set for Friday, the deadline for prosecutors bring an indictment, agree to a preliminary hearing or release Strauss-Kahn.

Strauss-Kahn is one of France's highest-profile politicians and was seen as a potential candidate for president in next year's elections. His arrest shocked France.

The scandal comes at a critical moment for the International Monetary Fund, which is trying to shore up teetering economies in Europe. The IMF is an immensely powerful agency that loans money to countries to stabilize the world economy. In exchange it often imposes strict austerity measures.

Defense lawyers can raise the issue of bail as many times as they like, and it's common to make new proposals and try again after a client gets high or no bail, said Stuart P. Slotnick, a New York defense lawyer not involved in the Strauss-Kahn case. Such attempts can succeed if a judge is persuaded that new information reduces the perceived risk that the person won't come back to court if released.

Living elsewhere is often seen as raising that risk, but it's not insurmountable, Slotnick said.

In a case like Strauss-Kahn's, bail "is not going to be a slam-dunk, but if they can convince the judge that he's not a risk of flight, that he's going to come back, then he'll get bail," Slotnick said.

QuoteStrauss-Kahn, jailed at Rikers Island since Monday, made a second appeal for bail and proposed to be confined to his daughter's Manhattan home 24 hours a day with electronic monitoring. He was set for another hearing Thursday afternoon.

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 18, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/dominique-strauss-kahn-bernard-henri-levy-ben-stein_n_863633.html?ir=World

:mellow:

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 18, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/dominique-strauss-kahn-bernard-henri-levy-ben-stein_n_863633.html?ir=World

:mellow:

Quote from: Razgovory on May 18, 2011, 11:15:06 PM

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on May 18, 2011, 06:42:26 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/18/dominique-strauss-kahn-bernard-henri-levy-ben-stein_n_863633.html?ir=World

:mellow:

Reminds me of the Polanski thing.

Quote from: The Brain on May 19, 2011, 12:54:10 AM
WTF. I was once told I reminded someone of Ben Stein. I don't remember defending rape.

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 18, 2011, 03:59:37 PM

Quote from: dps on May 18, 2011, 02:14:48 PM
Accor?  The Motel 6 owners?  Ok, I can kind of see where Marti's disdain comes from.

That makes no sense.
That is like saying that Mouton Rotchschild most be crap b/c Mouton Cadet is cheap plonk.

Quote from: Zoupa on May 18, 2011, 10:10:22 PM
It's not a personal attack dude. You're old, and you're a man. Those are facts.

QuoteThing is, in most threads, you don't bring anything with your posts. 90% of them is an unfunny and unnecessary jab at someone, or an "Actually, you're wrong" know-it-all BS.

QuoteAnyways. I don't hate you or anything. You're just tiresome dude.

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 19, 2011, 05:10:06 AM

Quote from: The Brain on May 19, 2011, 12:54:10 AM
WTF. I was once told I reminded someone of Ben Stein. I don't remember defending rape.

:lol: Wrong Ben Stein, man.

Quote from: Drakken on May 19, 2011, 09:10:38 AM
Ben Stein the walking strawman?

Quote from: grumbler on May 19, 2011, 06:17:27 AM


Your "facts" are also based purely on perceptions.  You don't know my age and don't even know for a "fact" that I am a man. I am just curious as to why someone who seems to be adult in so many ways is so juvenile in this way.

Quote from: Drakken on May 19, 2011, 10:09:52 AM
Ah okey, got confused with Ben Stein the scientists-are-Nazi-selectors-sending-us-to-get-gassed religious crackpot. Thanks.

Quote from: Caliga on May 19, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
Also Ben Stein the speechwriter for Nixon.

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 18, 2011, 12:27:48 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on May 18, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Seems that most French believe it's some kind of conspiracy.

What's really funny is that DSK said, back in April, that he wouldn't surprise if is adversaries paid 1 millions to have a women accused him of rape in a parking lot.

Dude knew better.

Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2011, 04:59:58 PM
No, that would a terrible idea.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 19, 2011, 05:08:10 PM

Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2011, 04:59:58 PM
No, that would a terrible idea.

Not as bad as an unpopular president pressuring a pilot to land in unsafe conditions, knowing that if you crashed you would get a sympathy bounce in the polls.

But yes, an epically bad idea.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 19, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
Not as bad as an unpopular president pressuring a pilot to land in unsafe conditions, knowing that if you crashed you would get a sympathy bounce in the polls.

But yes, an epically bad idea.

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 19, 2011, 10:30:18 PM
What's the over/under on him escaping home confinement and getting off scott free back to France?

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 19, 2011, 10:30:18 PM
What's the over/under on him escaping home confinement and getting off scott free back to France?

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 20, 2011, 06:10:43 AM
Well in all honesty he'll have one armed guard on him and video surveillance. So it basically requires one person to be lazy/susceptible to bribe etc and he could be on a helicopter and flown straight out to a boat in international waters.

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 19, 2011, 10:55:27 PM

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 19, 2011, 10:30:18 PM
What's the over/under on him escaping home confinement and getting off scott free back to France?

French commandos will kill his guards and evacuate him in a stealth helicopter!

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 20, 2011, 06:43:03 AM

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 19, 2011, 10:55:27 PM

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 19, 2011, 10:30:18 PM
What's the over/under on him escaping home confinement and getting off scott free back to France?

French commandos will kill his guards and evacuate him in a stealth helicopter!

At Rikers? I'd give the advantage to Rikers.

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 20, 2011, 06:10:43 AM
Well in all honesty he'll have one armed guard on him and video surveillance. So it basically requires one person to be lazy/susceptible to bribe etc and he could be on a helicopter and flown straight out to a boat in international waters.

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 20, 2011, 08:33:55 AM
He could always hit the guard with one of those baguettes.

Quote from: DGuller on May 20, 2011, 08:31:07 AM
He could even overpower the guard himself;  I imagine the guy with one arm wouldn't be able to provide much resistance.

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 20, 2011, 04:02:37 PM

Quote from: DGuller on May 20, 2011, 08:31:07 AM
He could even overpower the guard himself;  I imagine the guy with one arm wouldn't be able to provide much resistance.

You've obviously never fought a one-armed man, their single arm gets retard strong.

QuoteAP sources: DNA matches Strauss-Kahn in sex attack
By COLLEEN LONG, Associated Press


NEW YORK – Test results returned Monday found that DNA from former International Monetary Fund leader Dominique Strauss-Kahn matched material on the work clothes of a Manhattan hotel maid who says he attacked her, two people familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press.

The two people would not describe the material found on the shirt, but said DNA matched a sample from Strauss-Kahn, who submitted to testing after his arrest more than a week ago. He denies the charges.

The two people said additional testing was being performed on other items. They were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.

During their investigation, authorities cut out a piece of carpet and swabbed sinks and other surfaces in his hotel room. Investigators told the AP they believed the carpet in the hotel room may contain Strauss-Kahn's semen, spat out after an episode of forced oral sex by the maid.

The forensic evidence is the first to link DSK to the woman — and it's also on track with what his lawyers have suggested would be his defense.

Strauss-Kahn's attorney Benjamin Brafman declined to comment on Monday. At a court hearing last week, he told a judge that forensic evidence developed in the investigation "will not be consistent with a forcible encounter" — leading to speculation that Strauss-Kahn's defense would argue that it was consensual.

NYPD spokesman Paul J. Browne and the Manhattan District Attorney's office would not comment.

The one-time French presidential contender has been charged with a criminal sex act, attempted rape and sexual abuse and is free on $1 million bail, under house arrest at a lower Manhattan apartment. He has been accused of attacking the 32-year-old West African immigrant on May 14 in his luxury suite at the Sofitel hotel near Manhattan's Times Square. His lawyers say he is innocent.

Staff at the Sofitel told authorities that the 62-year-old had made passes at them the day before the alleged attack, including flirting with a clerk and calling another employee to ask her up to his room, according to a third person with direct knowledge of investigators' interviews with staff.

Strauss-Kahn had flirted with one female staff member who accompanied him to his suite to make sure his accommodations were satisfactory after he checked in on May 13, the person said. Later, he phoned the desk clerk who had checked him in, asking her if she would like to get together with him when she got off duty, the person said. The desk clerk refused, saying she was not allowed to socialize with the VIP guest, the person said.

That person also wasn't authorized to speak publicly and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.

On Monday, lawyers for Strauss-Kahn continued to search for new digs for their client as he awaits trial. His bail agreement hit a snag late last week after tenants at the Upper East Side apartment building chosen for his house arrest refused to allow him, citing unwanted media attention.

Strauss-Kahn is currently housed at a temporary location under watch by armed guards with Stroz Friedberg, the same company that guarded disgraced financier Bernard Madoff. It was not clear when he would be moved. French and U.S. media have been staking out the building where Strauss-Kahn spent the weekend after he was released from his Rikers Island jail cell.

He resigned last Wednesday from the IMF.

His attorneys have described Strauss-Kahn as a loving father and family man. They say his actions after the alleged attack are not those of a guilty man eager for a quick escape. He left the hotel, had lunch and then phoned later to ask if he'd left anything behind. When he was told by hotel staff they had his cellphone, he told them exactly where he was: at John F. Kennedy International Airport on a flight bound for Paris. Authorities pulled him from the jetliner.



Associated Press Writer Tom Hays contributed to this report.

QuoteStaff at the Sofitel told authorities that the 62-year-old had made passes at them the day before the alleged attack, including flirting with a clerk and calling another employee to ask her up to his room, according to a third person with direct knowledge of investigators' interviews with staff.

Strauss-Kahn had flirted with one female staff member who accompanied him to his suite to make sure his accommodations were satisfactory after he checked in on May 13, the person said. Later, he phoned the desk clerk who had checked him in, asking her if she would like to get together with him when she got off duty, the person said. The desk clerk refused, saying she was not allowed to socialize with the VIP guest, the person said.

Quote from: Zoupa on May 23, 2011, 11:08:25 PM

QuoteStaff at the Sofitel told authorities that the 62-year-old had made passes at them the day before the alleged attack, including flirting with a clerk and calling another employee to ask her up to his room, according to a third person with direct knowledge of investigators' interviews with staff.

Strauss-Kahn had flirted with one female staff member who accompanied him to his suite to make sure his accommodations were satisfactory after he checked in on May 13, the person said. Later, he phoned the desk clerk who had checked him in, asking her if she would like to get together with him when she got off duty, the person said. The desk clerk refused, saying she was not allowed to socialize with the VIP guest, the person said.

:bleeding:

Stunningly moronic if true, and why wouldn't it be true. Why is the wife paying for this bag of douche. Jeebus.

QuoteFriends of alleged hotel sex fiend Dominique Strauss-Kahn secretly contacted the accusing maid's impoverished family, offering them money to make the case go away since they can't reach her in protective custody, The Post has learned.

The woman, who says she was sexually assaulted by the disgraced former head of the International Monetary Fund, has an extended family in the former French colony of Guinea in West Africa, well out of reach of the Manhattan DA's Office.

"They already talked with her family," a French businesswoman with close ties to Strauss-Kahn and his family told The Post. "For sure, it's going to end up on a quiet note."

Prosecutors in Manhattan have done their best to keep the cleaning woman out of the reach of Strauss-Kahn's supporters, but the source was already predicting success for the Parisian pol's pals.

"He'll get out of it and will fly back to France. He won't spend time in jail. The woman will get a lot of money," said the source, adding that a seven-figure sum has been bandied about.

While the DA's office has sequestered the maid -- and is even monitoring her phone calls -- her extended family lives in a village that lacks paved roads, electricity and phone lines.

The average monthly income is $45, which is near-starvation, and some of her family members can't even afford shoes.

They live so off-the-grid in a remote village that they didn't know the maid was allegedly nearly raped until reporters trekked to the village to inform them.

The alleged victim, who lives with her 15-year-old daughter in The Bronx, came to the United States from Guinea several years ago after her husband died. She has received some financial help from her sister and brother-in-law living in New York.

The DA's office has warned local family members not to accept calls from associates of Strauss-Kahn. Even without the maid's testimony, however, prosecutors claim they have plenty of damning evidence to prosecute Strauss-Kahn, including her videotaped statement, grand-jury testimony, statements from fellow hotel employees and semen samples found on the hotel room carpet.

Strauss-Kahn, 62, remains under house arrest in a pricey lower Manhattan pad secured by his billionaire wife, Anne Sinclair. He must wear a GPS-enabled ankle bracelet and have armed guards to prevent him from escaping.

Meanwhile, in another development yesterday, it emerged that Strauss-Kahn allegedly shouted, "Do you know who I am?" as he assaulted the victim, according to a new report.

"Don't you know who I am? Don't you know who I am?" Strauss- Kahn repeatedly inquired during the incident, according to Fox News.

"Please, please stop. No!" she cried as he pinned her to the bed, law-enforcement sources said. "Please stop. I need my job, I can't lose my job, don't do this. I will lose my job. Please, please stop!"

In a heartless reply, Strauss-Kahn, allegedly told her, "No, baby. Don't worry, you're not going to lose your job," sources said, adding that he again repeated, "Don't you know who I am?"

While she begged him to stop, he allegedly pressed the attack, dragging her down the hall and forcing her to perform oral sex.

The maid finally escaped by pushing him into a piece of furniture in the $3,000-a-night Sofitel suite, she said. Sources said that the Frenchman has a gash on his back where he hit the armoire and that blood was found on the sheets.

Investigators also confirmed a DNA match between Strauss-Kahn and a semen sample found on the maid's shirt.

Meanwhile, Strauss-Kahn faces a deadline this morning to vacate the apartment at 71 Broadway where he's been under house arrest since he was sprung from Rikers on Friday.

He is now hunting for a townhouse so he doesn't have to deal with belligerent co-op and condo boards, and has a $50,000 monthly budget, sources said.

"He has been calling around, but no broker wants to work with him," a top broker said. "He wants to find a broker who will help secure a place for him with more privacy so he won't be harassed, and he is not particular about the neighborhood."

Additional reporting by Chuck Bennett, Helen Freund, Hannah Rappleye, Jennifer Gould Keil, Larry Celona, Jamie Schram and Post Wire Services

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 24, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
You link looks dubious Timmy.

Quote from: Zoupa on May 25, 2011, 12:05:02 AM
It's kind of easy to write up anything with "according to sources".

Is the NY post a decent paper or trash? Not familiar with it.

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 25, 2011, 09:48:02 AM
Mostly trashy but some good reporters.  A cut above the Brit tabloids or Bild.

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 25, 2011, 02:25:02 PM
A few years back I was on trial in a case that involved the financial sector.  The Post covered the case along with various other papers including the qualities (NYT, WSJ).  Overall I would say the Post's coverage was the most accurate.  That is just one anecdote and obviously there are other issues with the Post editorially that would cause me not to prefer it to the qualities.  But the experience did raise the Post somewhat in my estimation.

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on May 25, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
Bernie?

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 25, 2011, 02:25:02 PM
A few years back I was on trial in a case that involved the financial sector.  The Post covered the case along with various other papers including the qualities (NYT, WSJ).  Overall I would say the Post's coverage was the most accurate.  That is just one anecdote and obviously there are other issues with the Post editorially that would cause me not to prefer it to the qualities.  But the experience did raise the Post somewhat in my estimation.

Quote from: Berkut on May 25, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Huh. You could not blame the woman or her family for taking a pay-off, even if it would be a travesty of justice.

A million dollars to shut up and make this go away, for a family in utter poverty? Seems like a no brainer to me...

Quote from: Berkut on May 25, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Huh. You could not blame the woman or her family for taking a pay-off, even if it would be a travesty of justice.

A million dollars to shut up and make this go away, for a family in utter poverty? Seems like a no brainer to me...

Quote from: DGuller on May 25, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Are you implying that 86% is a low number?  I would think that when it comes to rich men with rich lawyers, 86% is pretty good.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 03:36:34 PM

Quote from: Berkut on May 25, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Huh. You could not blame the woman or her family for taking a pay-off, even if it would be a travesty of justice.

A million dollars to shut up and make this go away, for a family in utter poverty? Seems like a no brainer to me...

What is interesting to me is the intrade results were 86% of a conviction. It would seem right now that this is a he said / she said, and of course the potential for a buy off is always there. Either the "market" is totally out of whack, or someone knows something.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 03:47:52 PM

Quote from: DGuller on May 25, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Are you implying that 86% is a low number?  I would think that when it comes to rich men with rich lawyers, 86% is pretty good.

I think it is extremely high.

Quote from: Malthus on May 25, 2011, 03:49:39 PM

Well, allegedly there is leaked DNA evidence. That changes the odds.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 03:57:43 PM

Quote from: Malthus on May 25, 2011, 03:49:39 PM

Well, allegedly there is leaked DNA evidence. That changes the odds.

I'm not following the blow by blows here, but if the defense is that this was a consensual encounter, DNA evidence may not mean much. Hell, and I'm not admitting anything, but it may be possible to find DNA evidence of me in some rooms I stayed in, even without a woman ever being present.  :blush:

Quote from: The Brain on May 25, 2011, 03:58:21 PM

I don't follow.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 03:57:43 PM

Quote from: Malthus on May 25, 2011, 03:49:39 PM

Well, allegedly there is leaked DNA evidence. That changes the odds.

I'm not following the blow by blows here, but if the defense is that this was a consensual encounter, DNA evidence may not mean much. Hell, and I'm not admitting anything, but it may be possible to find DNA evidence of me in some rooms I stayed in, even without a woman ever being present.  :blush:

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 03:57:43 PM

Quote from: Malthus on May 25, 2011, 03:49:39 PM

Well, allegedly there is leaked DNA evidence. That changes the odds.

I'm not following the blow by blows here, but if the defense is that this was a consensual encounter, DNA evidence may not mean much. Hell, and I'm not admitting anything, but it may be possible to find DNA evidence of me in some rooms I stayed in, even without a woman ever being present.  :blush:

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 04:00:37 PM

Quote from: The Brain on May 25, 2011, 03:58:21 PM

I don't follow.

You know, hair might fall out when I comb, or I might cut my self shaving... :ph34r:

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 25, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
Of all criminal cases that went to trial in the Manhattan DA's office from 1999-2008, the rate of conviction was about 61 percent.

Note that the vast majority of cases tend to be pled out before trial.

Quote from: Malthus on May 25, 2011, 04:17:25 PM
Without the DNA evidence, there would be the possibility that the event never happened.

I suppose his version of events could make sense, if he could prove she was a hustler on the side ... but really, aside from pay-for-play, it's gonna be hard to get a jury to buy that a youngish working hotel maid was overcome with instant lust at the sight of this guy, and in the spot agreed to a vigorous mouth-fucking.  :lol:

Quote... you might splooge on the maid ... you know, the usual. 

Quote from: The Brain on May 25, 2011, 04:40:27 PM
I often get loud comments about my ass.

Quote from: alfred russel on May 25, 2011, 04:31:17 PM

Quote from: Malthus on May 25, 2011, 04:17:25 PM
Without the DNA evidence, there would be the possibility that the event never happened.

I suppose his version of events could make sense, if he could prove she was a hustler on the side ... but really, aside from pay-for-play, it's gonna be hard to get a jury to buy that a youngish working hotel maid was overcome with instant lust at the sight of this guy, and in the spot agreed to a vigorous mouth-fucking.  :lol:

What would be plausible (based on some of the stories to come out) is that he goes through life hitting on every service type woman with a pulse, and eventually one of them realizes, "Hey, I make $8 an hour, this guy is in a $3,000 a night hotel room, if I agree and then call the cops saying it wasn't consentual, I could probably get a settlement out of it."

That isn't a workable defense strategy, but I would be amused by the defense calling a long series of women to testify, "yes, the first time I met him, he made lewd comments about my ass and propositioned me."

Quote... you might splooge on the maid ... you know, the usual. 

:blush:

QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — Former International Monetary Fund Leader Dominique Strauss-Kahn will have his pricey bail substantially reduced in his sexual assault case because of issues with his accuser's credibility, a person familiar with the case said Thursday.

The person, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters not yet made public in court, said prosecutors have raised issues about the credibility of the hotel housekeeper who has accused Strauss-Kahn of raping her, but would not elaborate on what those issues were.

The New York Times first reported that the investigators uncovered major holes in the maid's credibility, citing two law enforcement officials. One of the officials told the Times that the woman has repeatedly lied since making the initial allegation May 14.

The woman's lawyer did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment.

Another person familiar with the case, speaking on conditions of anonymity for the same reason, said earlier Thursday that Strauss-Kahn may get his pricey bail and house arrest arrangement eased in the case. The person declined to detail what the new bail arrangements might be.

Strauss-Kahn lawyer William W. Taylor would say only that the hearing was to review the bail plan. The Manhattan District Attorney's office declined to comment.

Strauss-Kahn has been under armed guard in a Manhattan townhouse after posting a total of $6 million in cash bail and bond. He denies the allegations.

Strauss-Kahn was held without bail for nearly a week after his May arrest. His lawyers ultimately persuaded a judge to release him by agreeing to extensive — and expensive — conditions, including an ankle monitor, surveillance cameras and armed guards. He can leave for only for court, weekly religious services and visits to doctors and his lawyers, and prosecutors must be notified at least six hours before he goes anywhere.

The security measures were estimated to cost him about $200,000 a month, on top of the $50,000-a-month rent on a town house in trendy TriBeCa. He settled there after a hasty and fraught househunt: A plan to rent an apartment in a tony building on Manhattan's Upper East Side fell through after residents complained about the hubbub as reporters and police milled around the building.

Under New York law, judges base bail decisions on factors including defendants' characters, financial resources and criminal records, as well as the strength of the case against them — all intended to help gauge how likely they are to flee if released.

Defendants and prosecutors can raise the issue of bail at any point in a case. It's common, if asking a judge to revisit a bail decision, to argue that new information or new proposed conditions change how one or more of the factors should be viewed.

The 32-year-old maid told police that Strauss-Kahn chased her down a hallway in his $3,000-a-night suite in the Sofitel hotel, tried to pull down her pantyhose and forced her to perform oral sex before she broke free.

Strauss-Kahn's lawyers have said the encounter wasn't forcible, and that they have unreleased information that could "gravely undermine the credibility" of the housekeeper. Her lawyer has said she is prepared to testify despite a "smear campaign" against her.

The Associated Press generally does not identify accusers in sex crime cases unless they agree to it.

Strauss-Kahn, 62, was in New York on a personal trip. He left the hotel shortly after the alleged assault — to have lunch with a relative, his attorneys have said.

During his initial bail hearings, prosecutors noted that Strauss-Kahn was arrested on a Paris-bound plane at John F. Kennedy International Airport, and that they could not compel his return from France if he fled. His lawyers have underscored that it was a long-planned flight, and they've said he wants to return to court to clear his name.

He resigned his IMF post after his arrest.

Quote from: DGuller on June 30, 2011, 10:37:12 PM
Now we're not sure if she did see it coming either.

Quote from: Martinus on July 01, 2011, 03:58:22 AM
I hope he becomes the next President of the Republic. :frog:

QuoteJust saw that the woman who accused Strauss-Kahn of raping her is known to have lied on her asylum application and to have links with money laundering and organised crime....ooops! Prosecution says it needs to talk to the judge asap. Given that this man is, or was, the main contender to run against Sarkozy, France is watching all this like a hawk. If it DOES turn out to be ill-founded, it will be quite a blot on the escutcheon of US justice.

Quote from: Brazen on July 01, 2011, 05:06:53 AM
As reported by a friend in France:

QuoteJust saw that the woman who accused Strauss-Kahn of raping her is known to have lied on her asylum application and to have links with money laundering and organised crime....ooops! Prosecution says it needs to talk to the judge asap. Given that this man is, or was, the main contender to run against Sarkozy, France is watching all this like a hawk. If it DOES turn out to be ill-founded, it will be quite a blot on the escutcheon of US justice.

Quote from: Brazen on July 01, 2011, 05:06:53 AM
As reported by a friend in France:

QuoteJust saw that the woman who accused Strauss-Kahn of raping her is known to have lied on her asylum application and to have links with money laundering and organised crime....ooops! Prosecution says it needs to talk to the judge asap. Given that this man is, or was, the main contender to run against Sarkozy, France is watching all this like a hawk. If it DOES turn out to be ill-founded, it will be quite a blot on the escutcheon of US justice.

Quote from: Brazen on July 01, 2011, 05:06:53 AM
As reported by a friend in France:

QuoteJust saw that the woman who accused Strauss-Kahn of raping her is known to have lied on her asylum application and to have links with money laundering and organised crime....ooops! Prosecution says it needs to talk to the judge asap. Given that this man is, or was, the main contender to run against Sarkozy, France is watching all this like a hawk. If it DOES turn out to be ill-founded, it will be quite a blot on the escutcheon of US justice.

Quote from: WikipediaEscutcheon may refer to:

    * Escutcheon (heraldry), a shield or shield-shaped emblem, displaying a coat of arms
    * Escutcheon (furniture), an item of door furniture that surrounds a keyhole or lock cylinder
    * a decorative plate that surrounds a faucet in a bathtub or shower
    * (in medicine) the distribution of pubic hair
    * (in veterinary medicine) the shield-like pattern of distribution of the haircoat in the area below the vulva, down to the top of the udder, in the cow
    * a plate on the stern of a ship inscribed with the ship's name

Quote from: sbr on July 01, 2011, 06:10:11 PM

Quote from: Brazen on July 01, 2011, 05:06:53 AM
As reported by a friend in France:

QuoteJust saw that the woman who accused Strauss-Kahn of raping her is known to have lied on her asylum application and to have links with money laundering and organised crime....ooops! Prosecution says it needs to talk to the judge asap. Given that this man is, or was, the main contender to run against Sarkozy, France is watching all this like a hawk. If it DOES turn out to be ill-founded, it will be quite a blot on the escutcheon of US justice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon

Quote from: WikipediaEscutcheon may refer to:

    * Escutcheon (heraldry), a shield or shield-shaped emblem, displaying a coat of arms
    * Escutcheon (furniture), an item of door furniture that surrounds a keyhole or lock cylinder
    * a decorative plate that surrounds a faucet in a bathtub or shower
    * (in medicine) the distribution of pubic hair
    * (in veterinary medicine) the shield-like pattern of distribution of the haircoat in the area below the vulva, down to the top of the udder, in the cow
    * a plate on the stern of a ship inscribed with the ship's name

I wonder which one they mean?

Quote from: Razgovory on July 01, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
I suppose the lesson here is not to use a word in the the Thesaurus unless you actually know what it means.