IMF Chairman Arrested for Sexual Assault by NYPD

Started by Drakken, May 14, 2011, 09:26:30 PM

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garbon

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:29:37 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 10:24:30 AM
I think you are making in mistake in assuming that the urge to rape stems from not having any outlets.

No, it comes from an urge for dominating women, mixed with sadism and a lack of respect for others' well-being. It's clear that, to DSK, this woman was nothing but a thing to be used and abused.

Yet quite a few men are like that, but they don't rape. They just find women who like it rougher and are submissive. So why DSK, who is thought until now to be an intelligent man capable of self-control, did not have any here? There's something more to it, it's not just a man believing he is above the law.

I tend to think this is not his first rape (and yes I mean rape rape), but we'll never know.

Which is why I don't think it is relevant to discuss what other alternatives he could have availed himself with. They were never legitimate alternatives in his mind (assuming that he is actually a rapist).
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derspiess

Quote from: Barrister on May 18, 2011, 10:34:24 AM
You are making far too many generalities.  I'm sure that for some, rape / sexual assault is about an urge to dominante women.  But not for others - indeed some do it out of a desire for "love", while others in fact do it merely because the opportunity presents itself.

But in short, any time someone says "people commit this crime because of X" they are inevitably wrong for at least some offenders.

Ditto.  Seems like a lot of people want to ignore the fact that sometimes rape happens out of pure lust.  No idea why the need to over-complicate the motivation.
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Seems that most French believe it's some kind of conspiracy.
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Grey Fox

Quote from: Razgovory on May 18, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
Seems that most French believe it's some kind of conspiracy.

What's really funny is that DSK said, back in April, that he wouldn't surprise if is adversaries paid 1 millions to have a women accused him of rape in a parking lot.

Dude knew better.
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Caliga

Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.
I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:
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Malthus

Quote from: Caliga on May 18, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.
I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:

It's only common knowledge if you have the secret seduction community manual.  ;)
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Drakken

Quote from: Grey Fox on May 18, 2011, 12:27:48 PM

What's really funny is that DSK said, back in April, that he wouldn't surprise if is adversaries paid 1 millions to have a women accused him of rape in a parking lot.

Dude knew better.

Sounds like the kind of thing someone smart would say so prepare the terrain when his skeletons will eventually be dugged out.

garbon

Quote from: Malthus on May 18, 2011, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 18, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.
I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:

It's only common knowledge if you have the secret seduction community manual.  ;)

I think they had an episode about it on Law & Order: SVU. ^_^
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Martinus on May 18, 2011, 01:30:47 AM
That's disgusting. He stays at a Sofitel.  :yucky:

?

I've only been to the DC one; it was quite nice.
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Quote from: Zoupa on May 18, 2011, 12:13:46 AM
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Quote from: DGuller on May 18, 2011, 10:18:53 AM
Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
That's what makes me think the guy is a dumbass. Wanted to fuck? All he needed to do was to send an assistant at the reception to anonymously ask numbers for call-girls who like it rough and "forced". All luxury hotels have these available for customers.
:shutup:

Maybe I'm naive, but I'd be surprised if that was the case. If I was an exec at a chain like Sofitel the last thing I would want are headlines about the police getting prostitute recommendations from reception.
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garbon

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on May 18, 2011, 01:06:34 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 18, 2011, 01:30:47 AM
That's disgusting. He stays at a Sofitel.  :yucky:

?

I've only been to the DC one; it was quite nice.

Seeing as how Marti hangs out with the movers and shakers of the world, I defer to his judgment about what is in and what is out. -_-
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 18, 2011, 12:43:39 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 18, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: Drakken on May 18, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
It's common knowledge that hotels have a list of numbers for customers who feel lonely, but they have to be asked so that they aren't seen encouraging prostitution.
I didn't know that. :hmm: :shifty:

It's only common knowledge if you have the secret seduction community manual.  ;)

I think they had an episode about it on Law & Order: SVU. ^_^

Oh wait, I think it was actually The Good Wife. One of those two.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

katmai

The sofitel in Philly was pretty nice. At least back when stayed at it.
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grumbler

Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Seeing as how Marti hangs out with the movers and shakers of the world, I defer to his judgment about what is in and what is out. -_- 
Exactly.  Loser has-beens like the head of the IMF stay at hotels like the Sofitel; Marti and his mover-and-shaker pals stay in much better digs.
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