So, my father was a civil war reenactor when he was younger, and still has his costume around. I'm debating wearing it to school for a Halloween party, but am worried some people will cry about it.
Squee! before the lock
I thought you were older.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 06, 2009, 11:11:41 PM
I thought you were older.
23 year olds aren't allowed to go to Halloween parties?
The people in your school that would cry about it are exactly the sorts worth offending.
I'd think so.
Quote from: garbon on September 06, 2009, 11:13:50 PM
I'd think so.
I'm not sure you're not being evil for evil's sake.
I wouldn't wear it.
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
I wouldn't wear it.
Yea, I kind of agree, but I feel it's a shame to let it go to waste. I was kinda curious if people see it as an incredibly offensive emblem.
But I suspect I'd end up on ATL if I wore it.
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
I wouldn't wear it.
Yea, I kind of agree, but I feel it's a shame to let it go to waste. I was kinda curious if people see it as an incredibly offensive emblem.
But I suspect I'd end up on ATL if I wore it.
The problem is if only a few people find it offensive, you'll be in needless trouble. It is not worth the risk, as there are countless other alternatives.
My opinion on the general part of this neednt be said, so i'll only say that I seldom avoid things because a small minority might take exception, or that doing what I want to do or what I feel is right could cause controversy.
And isnt a certain amount of to-do and controversy ideal at a party? You'll be the belle of the ball, as it were.
Quote from: Monoriu on September 06, 2009, 11:23:22 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:20:44 PM
I wouldn't wear it.
Yea, I kind of agree, but I feel it's a shame to let it go to waste. I was kinda curious if people see it as an incredibly offensive emblem.
But I suspect I'd end up on ATL if I wore it.
The problem is if only a few people find it offensive, you'll be in needless trouble. It is not worth the risk, as there are countless other alternatives.
What would happen if you wore a Republic of China type uniform to work?
Yes but make it a ZOMBIE Confederate
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 06, 2009, 11:27:42 PM
Yes but make it a ZOMBIE Confederate
Like the ghost of dead conferate soldiers? Nothing bad could come from that...
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:32:55 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 06, 2009, 11:27:42 PM
Yes but make it a ZOMBIE Confederate
Like the ghost of dead conferate soldiers? Nothing bad could come from that...
"I found the current GOP so appealing I had to come back."
Do it.
Be Zombie Lee, that's pretty cool.
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:32:55 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 06, 2009, 11:27:42 PM
Yes but make it a ZOMBIE Confederate
Like the ghost of dead conferate soldiers? Nothing bad could come from that...
"I found the current GOP so appealing I had to come back."
I think the dress of the KKK came from them initially claiming to be the ghosts of dead confederate soldiers when they intimidated/attacked their victims.
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:40:09 PM
I think the dress of the KKK came from them initially claiming to be the ghosts of dead confederate soldiers when they intimidated/attacked their victims.
Given how the war was about tariffs and states' rights, that's weird.
In 6th grade each kid in my class had to pick a hero from American history and come to school dressed up as them. I picked Robert E. Lee. -_-
I don't think it's appropriate even for Civil War reenactments.
maybe if you make it a zombie-halloween-costume... It'll be at least a bit halloween-scary then.
As it is normally a confederate uniform isn't scary enough to stop a brigade of union soldiers from burning down atlanta.
I was photgraphed in Confederate uniform at a themepark in Germany once (they make the picture look like from the period). Unfortunately, I don't have the picture anymore, which may be just as well as the uniform was highly inaccurate.
If I wanted to dress as a Celtic Warrior, what kind of shoes would I use? What would I use to dye my hair and make it stick up like the Celts? I could just use pajama bottoms with pajama bottoms featuring a tartan, and some tattoos, and maybe a gold necklace of some sort, but what kind of sandals or boots would they wear?
Quote from: Queequeg on September 07, 2009, 01:21:45 AM
If I wanted to dress as a Celtic Warrior, what kind of shoes would I use? What would I use to dye my hair and make it stick up like the Celts? I could just use pajama bottoms with pajama bottoms featuring a tartan, and some tattoos, and maybe a gold necklace of some sort, but what kind of sandals or boots would they wear?
Go-Go boots.
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:41:19 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 06, 2009, 11:40:09 PM
I think the dress of the KKK came from them initially claiming to be the ghosts of dead confederate soldiers when they intimidated/attacked their victims.
Given how the war was about tariffs and states' rights, that's weird.
States don't have rights.
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:14:40 PM
I'm not sure you're not being evil for evil's sake.
:huh:
I think it would be inappropriate.
Quote from: Queequeg on September 07, 2009, 01:21:45 AM
If I wanted to dress as a Celtic Warrior, what kind of shoes would I use? What would I use to dye my hair and make it stick up like the Celts? I could just use pajama bottoms with pajama bottoms featuring a tartan, and some tattoos, and maybe a gold necklace of some sort, but what kind of sandals or boots would they wear?
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Heh. It just occurred to me. According to Lettow's ideology a Celtic warrior and a Confederate warrior are the same thing!
So I encourage both Faeelin and Queequeg to wear the same outfit. Some kind of amalgamation of ancient Celt and Confederate. A gray tunic with brass buttons and epaulettes, a white skirt, military boots with spurs and a big winged helmet.
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Yes, it is inappropriate. Unless you're a confederate zombie.
Well, obviously I do not know much about American culture, since I wouldn't find the uniform offensive (as far as I am concerned, anything that hasn't happened within the living memory is a free game - for example, I don't think anyone in Poland would get offended if someone came to a fancy dress party dressed like a Prussian soldier, with a pickelhaube and all, or as Lenin).
But since it seems to be controversial, I'd go for the zombie confederate option - that certainly can't be interpreted as "glorifying the confederacy" imo. Plus it would obviously fit with the Halloween theme.
Quote from: DGuller on September 07, 2009, 12:01:51 AM
I don't think it's appropriate even for Civil War reenactments.
You're joking, right?
Confederate zombie sounds like a good idea indeed. :)
Quote from: Syt on September 07, 2009, 01:56:55 AM
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Just need the helmet and that's perfect. You won't offend anyone except those with taste. Nobody will know what the fuck you are.
Quote from: Syt on September 07, 2009, 02:05:08 AM
Confederate zombie sounds like a good idea indeed. :)
I agree...this is probably the only way it can be pulled off without being potentially offensive; and it needs to be as garish and blatant as possible.
Better yet, carry a fake AK-47. What could be scarier than a character from a Turtledove novel?
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 07, 2009, 02:53:59 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 07, 2009, 02:05:08 AM
Confederate zombie sounds like a good idea indeed. :)
I agree...this is probably the only way it can be pulled off without being potentially offensive; and it needs to be as garish and blatant as possible.
I can see it working, though, if you're black:
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The two arent the same at all, obviously. I just happen to like both, and the South has a signifigant celtic background in its roots.
I don't think things would go well.
Quote from: Lettow77 on September 07, 2009, 03:18:39 AM
The two arent the same at all, obviously. I just happen to like both, and the South has a signifigant celtic background in its roots.
Scotland doesn't even have significant celtic background in its roots let alone the U.S.
Unless you can make it into a Yosemite Sam costume (the one where Yosemite Sam guards the Mason-Dixie line, as a CS Colonel) would it be inappropriate...
Quote from: Syt on September 07, 2009, 03:02:33 AM
I can see it working, though, if you're black:
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There were in fact black Confederate soldiers. :contract:
Quote from: Tyr on September 07, 2009, 04:56:47 AM
Quote from: Lettow77 on September 07, 2009, 03:18:39 AM
The two arent the same at all, obviously. I just happen to like both, and the South has a signifigant celtic background in its roots.
Scotland doesn't even have significant celtic background in its roots let alone the U.S.
I think he's referring mostly to ulster scots, who as we know, are not pure laine celtic.
It's Halloween for fuck's sake, anybody who takes offense needs to get over themselves.
Agree with Guller, though I'd extend that to the reenactments themselves. :P
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:08:47 PM
So, my father was a civil war reenactor when he was younger, and still has his costume around. I'm debating wearing it to school for a Halloween party, but am worried some people will cry about it.
I went to a party dressed as a Terrorist and almost got into a fight.
I bet reaction will be, um, less explosive.
Quote from: Tyr on September 07, 2009, 04:56:47 AM
Scotland doesn't even have significant celtic background in its roots let alone the U.S.
O rly?
Besides, we have plenty of English, Welsh, and Irish blood as well.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2009, 07:28:37 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 07, 2009, 04:56:47 AM
Scotland doesn't even have significant celtic background in its roots let alone the U.S.
O rly?
Besides, we have plenty of English, Welsh, and Irish blood as well.
probably more german in fact.
the peak period of celtic (Irish) immigration to the US begins in the 1830's-40's. significantly, the majority chose to concentrate in northern urban centres.
before the american revolution, the south received its fair share of ulster scots, who are scottish immigrants to ireland. largely presbyterian, lowland scots. "scots" of course, is a regional dialect or sub language of old english.
I suggest you ask Harry
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Quote from: Martinus on September 07, 2009, 02:03:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 07, 2009, 12:01:51 AM
I don't think it's appropriate even for Civil War reenactments.
You're joking, right?
Eh, there's an argument that southern reenactors are acting out nostalgia for a coup by southern planters to keep millions of Americans in bondage.
Quote from: Caliga on September 07, 2009, 07:21:29 AM
There were in fact black Confederate soldiers. :contract:
I know that. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Faeelin on September 07, 2009, 07:45:58 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 07, 2009, 02:03:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 07, 2009, 12:01:51 AM
I don't think it's appropriate even for Civil War reenactments.
You're joking, right?
Eh, there's an argument that southern reenactors are acting out nostalgia for a coup by southern planters to keep millions of Americans in bondage.
That's a retarded argument. If Poles can stomach reenactors of WW2 battles wearing nazi uniforms, surely Americans can stomach that.
Quote from: saskganesh on September 07, 2009, 07:39:56 AM
the peak period of celtic (Irish) immigration
The Scotti were a Celtic tribe from Ireland originally and the Celtic Britons were assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons. Moreover, Ireland also had substantial Germanic additions from Viking excursions, English occupation, natural intermarriage(the islands are rather close to each other) and the like. Both populations were mongrel mixtures of Celtic and German roots. The Scots and Welsh as well as the Irish tend to play up the Celtic side to distinguish themselves from the English.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2009, 07:26:01 AM
It's Halloween for fuck's sake, anybody who takes offense needs to get over themselves.
Agree with Guller, though I'd extend that to the reenactments themselves. :P
Says the Georgian.
Sounds more interesting than all the goddamn Johnny Depp wannabes in the last couple of years at Halloween parties. I hate that fucking movie and I hate Johnny Depp.
Quote from: saskganesh on September 07, 2009, 07:27:15 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:08:47 PM
So, my father was a civil war reenactor when he was younger, and still has his costume around. I'm debating wearing it to school for a Halloween party, but am worried some people will cry about it.
I went to a party dressed as a Terrorist and almost got into a fight.
I bet reaction will be, um, less explosive.
You, I just remember I did this once (dressed as an arab terrorist) but nobody said a thing. Of course this was back in 1999. It was a simpler time. I prefer that time.
If you weren't at school I'd say go for it. Anyone offended by a Halloween custom deserves to be offended, but since you can be penalized for it I wouldn't do it.
If you wear a Reb uniform don't people have the right to kill you?
I assume it's a law school party? Full of people who plan on taking offense full time as a professional calling? In one of the bastions of political correctness? It's asking for nothing but trouble.
This thread proves you should wear an accurate confederate uniform, and as much as I love zombies, just keep it accurate. You want a reaction don't you? True up in yankeeland that reaction might be overblown, but worth it for our entertainment.
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 07, 2009, 12:43:51 PM
This thread proves you should wear an accurate confederate uniform, and as much as I love zombies, just keep it accurate. You want a reaction don't you? True up in yankeeland that reaction might be overblown, but worth it for our entertainment.
Yeah,
I can't see a fownside to
him wearing that costume. It's all win. :D
Quote from: Malthus on September 07, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Yeah, I can't see a fownside to him wearing that costume. It's all win. :D
I's be fowning and I'll never even see it.
Quote from: garbon on September 07, 2009, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 07, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Yeah, I can't see a fownside to him wearing that costume. It's all win. :D
I's be fowning and I'll never even see it.
As I said - it's all good.
Even the
typos are good. :D
Quote from: garbon on September 07, 2009, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 07, 2009, 12:52:08 PM
Yeah, I can't see a fownside to him wearing that costume. It's all win. :D
I's be fowning and I'll never even see it.
You're just ticked that Faeelin's honing in on your turf as the forum's gay contrarian.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
You're just ticked that Faeelin's honing in on your turf as the forum's gay contrarian.
I am? He is? :unsure:
Quote from: garbon on September 07, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
I am? He is? :unsure:
Well, maybe ticked is overstating it.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
You're just ticked that Faeelin's honing in on your turf as the forum's gay contrarian.
Heh, maybe he should dye the uniform pink, sew up a few pink triangle military badges, and come as a
Gay Confederate soldier.
That ought to throw the complainers for a loop!
Quote from: Malthus on September 07, 2009, 03:23:23 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 07, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
You're just ticked that Faeelin's honing in on your turf as the forum's gay contrarian.
Heh, maybe he should dye the uniform pink, sew up a few pink triangle military badges, and come as a Gay Confederate soldier.
That ought to throw the complainers for a loop!
Black gay zombie confederate soldier :yeah:
Though I suspect the blackface will be more offensive than the rest.
Quote from: Faeelin on September 06, 2009, 11:08:47 PM
So, my father was a civil war reenactor when he was younger, and still has his costume around. I'm debating wearing it to school for a Halloween party, but am worried some people will cry about it.
Wearing a politically suspect costume for Halloween worked out great for Prince Harry.
Seriously, of course it's inappropriate. You should be a scary ghost instead.
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Quote from: Martinus on September 07, 2009, 08:00:33 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on September 07, 2009, 07:45:58 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 07, 2009, 02:03:00 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 07, 2009, 12:01:51 AM
I don't think it's appropriate even for Civil War reenactments.
You're joking, right?
Eh, there's an argument that southern reenactors are acting out nostalgia for a coup by southern planters to keep millions of Americans in bondage.
That's a retarded argument. If Poles can stomach reenactors of WW2 battles wearing nazi uniforms, surely Americans can stomach that.
You cried like a bitch when Prince Harry wore that Nazi uniform.
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on September 07, 2009, 12:11:08 AM
maybe if you make it a zombie-halloween-costume... It'll be at least a bit halloween-scary then.
As it is normally a confederate uniform isn't scary enough to stop a brigade of union soldiers from burning down atlanta.
Yeah, if you just go straight up as "I'm a confederate" then you run the risk of it being seen as a political statement. If you mess it up somehow and go as a zombie confederate solider or use the uniform as the basis of a steampunk confederate soldier or some such then you can probably pull it off.
Use makeup to scar half your face and go as Jonnah Hex.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 07, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
Use makeup to scar half your face and go as Jonnah Hex.
Hard to drink with a tendon across your lips.
Quote from: Viking on September 07, 2009, 07:44:06 AM
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In a way, I find that less offensive that a Confederate uniform would be. The Nazi's were worse than the Confederates, but on the other hand, the Nazi's weren't traitors to my country, either.
Quote from: dps on September 07, 2009, 06:54:28 PM
Quote from: Viking on September 07, 2009, 07:44:06 AM
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In a way, I find that less offensive that a Confederate uniform would be. The Nazi's were worse than the Confederates, but on the other hand, the Nazi's weren't traitors to my country, either.
To be fair, your country didn't really exist back then.
I wouldn't consider the Confederate uniform to be offensive. However, the fact that the South fought to retain slavery along with other issues it was fighting for, so the Confederacy and the South has become a lot more controversial. Along with how easily people are offended these days. But for myself, I wouldn't give anyone grief over it for just wearing the uniform at a costume party.
I like the idea of a zombie Confederate. That would be pretty cool.
If you wear a Confederate Uniform to express your fanboyness for the Confederacy that would not only be incredibly lame but maybe offensive as well.
Speaking of Halloween, I've got to figure something out for these work parties.
If I go nerd, I could be the Joker(not the Heath Ledger homo Joker), while my wife does the Harley Quinn bit.
Or I can wear a toga and call myself Consul Biggus Dickus.
I've got a leather trench coat and can do the gestapo bit, but the jews may not care for it.
Or you could dress up exactly as the one staff member you're planning to fire right after Hallowe'en. You could make it an annual tradition. It'd be good for morale.
Quote from: Jacob on September 08, 2009, 11:08:16 AM
Or you could dress up exactly as the one staff member you're planning to fire right after Hallowe'en. You could make it an annual tradition. It'd be good for morale.
I look awful in a dress. Seriously.
I don't really care who wears a confederate uniform but I vote that anyone who uses the word "celt" or "celtic" to refer to any people or culture later in time than 1500 years ago be shot repeatedly at close range with a Sharp's carbine.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 08, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
I don't really care who wears a confederate uniform but I vote that anyone who uses the word "celt" or "celtic" to refer to any people or culture later in time than 1500 years ago be shot repeatedly at close range with a Sharp's carbine.
Pass the celt, eh? ;)
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 08, 2009, 10:48:55 AM
Speaking of Halloween, I've got to figure something out for these work parties.
If I go nerd, I could be the Joker(not the Heath Ledger homo Joker), while my wife does the Harley Quinn bit.
Or I can wear a toga and call myself Consul Biggus Dickus.
I've got a leather trench coat and can do the gestapo bit, but the jews may not care for it.
Mickey Mouse went as himself once in the early 80s. I found it incredibly lame and retarded. Should work for you.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 08, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
I don't really care who wears a confederate uniform but I vote that anyone who uses the word "celt" or "celtic" to refer to any people or culture later in time than 1500 years ago be shot repeatedly at close range with a Sharp's carbine.
:lol:
I meant this kind of Celt, (http://www.galloturca.com/galatians_files/image434.jpg) not the fantasy type. (http://dandalf.com/dandalf/braveheart14.gif)
Quote from: Queequeg on September 08, 2009, 01:15:34 PM:lol:
I meant this kind of Celt, (http://www.galloturca.com/galatians_files/image434.jpg)
Technically that is a Galatian. :nerd:
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 10:45:16 AM
Technically that is a Galatian. :nerd:
Which is a Celt!
Quote from: Valmy on September 09, 2009, 10:47:42 AMWhich is a Celt!
Ok. Btw the French are merely Europeans. :)
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 10:48:31 AM
Ok. Btw the French are merely Europeans. :)
Yes. The Celts are a cultural group not a tribal group. The Galatians were one of many many nations from Spain to India that were Celts.
Therefore the French are indeed Europeans.
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 08, 2009, 01:15:34 PM:lol:
I meant this kind of Celt, (http://www.galloturca.com/galatians_files/image434.jpg)
Technically that is a Galatian. :nerd:
Looks like an early Romulin...
I think when most people think of a Celt, they're not talking about Galatians. :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
I think when most people think of a Celt, they're not talking about Galatians. :huh:
I do. But then I am a :nerd: .
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
I think when most people think of a Celt, they're not talking about Galatians. :huh:
True but when most people talk about the Celts they think it's a basketball team.
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
I think when most people think of a Celt, they're not talking about Galatians. :huh:
Maybe, but they were reasonably similar across inter-Celtic lines. I doubt even a very well educated man would be able to functionally distinguish Galatian from Gaulish (or for that matter Germans near the frontier) equipment or colors, though I suspect that the Galatians were probably a fair bit darker due to native admixture.
Quote from: Queequeg on September 09, 2009, 06:28:37 PM
though I suspect that the Galatians were probably a fair bit darker due to native admixture.
With whom?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 09, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 09, 2009, 06:28:37 PM
though I suspect that the Galatians were probably a fair bit darker due to native admixture.
With whom?
Greeks and Paleo-Balkan populations. IIRC, our examples of the Galatian language show heavy linguistic influence from Greek and possibly from Paleo-Anatolian languages.
They probably would have been fairly light skinned by Anatolian standards, though. The Thracians were famous for being pale and having red hair, and the Thracians would have been the primary admixture I'd think.
I have decided. Robert E. Lee, Sith Lord.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 02:43:28 PM
I have decided. Robert E. Lee, Sith Lord.
What? :lol:
How are you going to mesh the two together?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 14, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 02:43:28 PM
I have decided. Robert E. Lee, Sith Lord.
What? :lol:
How are you going to mesh the two together?
I will use the Confederate uniform, and a white beard. I'll take a lightsaber and a flowing black cape. I will mutter ominously how I find your lack of faith in states' rights disturbing. And I will use my battle meditation to give rebel troops an advantage against the damnyankees.
Boy, a roomfull of people who both get that and find it funny sounds like the funnest Hallowe'en party crowd ever.
Quote from: Mr.Penguin on September 07, 2009, 06:43:53 AM
Unless you can make it into a Yosemite Sam costume (the one where Yosemite Sam guards the Mason-Dixie line, as a CS Colonel) would it be inappropriate...
This would be Awesome especially if you can do the voice.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
Boy, a roomfull of people who both get that and find it funny sounds like the funnest Hallowe'en party crowd ever.
Well, these people are happier than the cynical assholes who populate Languish.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 09:56:26 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 14, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
Boy, a roomfull of people who both get that and find it funny sounds like the funnest Hallowe'en party crowd ever.
Well, these people are happier than the cynical assholes who populate Languish.
This is a law school shindig, right? :unsure:
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 06:54:31 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 14, 2009, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 02:43:28 PM
I have decided. Robert E. Lee, Sith Lord.
What? :lol:
How are you going to mesh the two together?
I will use the Confederate uniform, and a white beard. I'll take a lightsaber and a flowing black cape. I will mutter ominously how I find your lack of faith in states' rights disturbing. And I will use my battle meditation to give rebel troops an advantage against the damnyankees.
I actually find that funny.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 07:25:06 AM
I actually find that funny.
"Don't be so proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to lay a transcontinental railroad is insignificant next to the power of a Southern gentleman."
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 09:56:26 PM
Well, these people are happier than the cynical assholes who populate Languish.
I'm happy. :mad:
Quote from: Faeelin on October 15, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 07:25:06 AM
I actually find that funny.
"Don't be so proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to lay a transcontinental railroad is insignificant next to the power of a Southern gentleman."
The problem with the Robert E. Vader concept is that Lee was commanding a rebellion, not trying to destroy one. :huh:
Go as William Tecumseh Vader, or Darth Sherman.
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 07:45:14 AM
The problem with the Robert E. Vader concept is that Lee was commanding a rebellion, not trying to destroy one. :huh:
Go as William Tecumseh Vader, or Darth Sherman.
Ah, but Lee was fighting for an evil state that practiced slavery, and so is anaogous to the Empire.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 07:54:33 AM
Ah, but Lee was fighting for an evil state that practiced slavery, and so is anaogous to the Empire.
But the Union did not respect states' rights much like the Empire did not respect the 'state' rights of Kashyyyk and Endor, and so is analogous to the Empire.
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 07:56:56 AM
But the Union did not respect states' rights much like the Empire did not respect the 'state' rights of Kashyyyk and Endor, and so is analogous to the Empire.
The Empire wasn't too big on Jedi or Sith, either; they put up with Vader because he could choke a bitch, so his choice of line works, just not in context. :contract:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:03:28 AM
The Empire wasn't too big on Jedi or Sith, either
Wasn't Palpatine a Sith Lord? :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:03:28 AM
The Empire wasn't too big on Jedi or Sith, either
Wasn't Palpatine a Sith Lord? :huh:
There's no indication anybody besides Vader and his personal guard knew about that. The Empire used a lot of propaganda and misinformation to keep the populace and even, to an extent, the military in line. It definitely came as a surprise to Luke and company, who were pretty damn high-ranking officers, privy to most of the intelligence information the Rebellion received.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:34:37 AM
There's no indication anybody besides Vader and his personal guard knew about that. The Empire used a lot of propaganda and misinformation to keep the populace and even, to an extent, the military in line. It definitely came as a surprise to Luke and company, who were pretty damn high-ranking officers, privy to most of the intelligence information the Rebellion received.
I dunno, the EU suggests that half the population of Imperial Center were sith of some degree under Palptatine.
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 07:54:33 AM
Ah, but Lee was fighting for an evil state that practiced slavery, and so is anaogous to the Empire.
But the Union did not respect states' rights much like the Empire did not respect the 'state' rights of Kashyyyk and Endor, and so is analogous to the Empire.
Man living in a wannabe-like-Lettow state has made Caliga a traitor.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 08:36:55 AM
I dunno, the EU suggests that half the population of Imperial Center were sith of some degree under Palptatine.
:blink: That's a new one to me. When did this come up?
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
Man living in a wannabe-like-Lettow state has made Caliga a traitor.
:alberta:
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
Man living in a wannabe-like-Lettow state has made Caliga a traitor.
:alberta:
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states. The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states. The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
Basically, they were pissed that we had moved on from the Articles of Confederation and wanted to bring back the doctrine of nullification.
See: McCulloch v Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCulloch_v._Maryland)
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states. The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
I was trying to speak as TEH SOUTH in my reply to Faeelin, which was meant in jest as I think his post was. :)
Kidding aside, we both know that the Civil War was not *actually* about states' rights. Only Lettuce doesn't know that.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:41:47 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 08:36:55 AM
I dunno, the EU suggests that half the population of Imperial Center were sith of some degree under Palptatine.
:blink: That's a new one to me. When did this come up?
Within the EU, under Palpatine's command, there was:
1) Prophets of the Dark Side
2) the Inquisitorius
3) the Emperor's Hands
4) Palpatine's Dark Side Elite
Btw, this is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. :P
I mean, yeah, I'm as big or bigger a fucking nerd than anyone here--I even think the costume idea's sorta funny, although x amalgam with y costumes aren't really my bag. But I would endeavor not to show off my knowledge of the Star Wars extended universe in mixed company without express invitation.
Then again, are chicks in wherever you are (I thought it was Duke?) impressed with an ability to recite the biography of Grand Admiral Thrawn? If so, I'm in the wrong place. :(
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states. The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
Basically, they were pissed that we had moved on from the Articles of Confederation and wanted to bring back the doctrine of nullification.
See: McCulloch v Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCulloch_v._Maryland)
See: Andrew Jackson massing troops on your borders. Feel: the fear crackle down your spine. Experience: the wrath of a man with a taste for genocide.
Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
Then again, are chicks in wherever you are (I thought it was Duke?) impressed with an ability to recite the biography of Grand Admiral Thrawn? If so, I'm in the wrong place. :(
Some of them are. It's a pretty geeky bunch, although at the moment I'm debating committing the unspeakable sin of going out with someone on the journal with me.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
Then again, are chicks in wherever you are (I thought it was Duke?) impressed with an ability to recite the biography of Grand Admiral Thrawn? If so, I'm in the wrong place. :(
Some of them are. It's a pretty geeky bunch, although at the moment I'm debating committing the unspeakable sin of going out with someone on the journal with me.
Do it. What's the worst that could happen? :P
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states. The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
Why are you trying to hijack this thread into a Civil War thread?
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 07:45:14 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 15, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 07:25:06 AM
I actually find that funny.
"Don't be so proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to lay a transcontinental railroad is insignificant next to the power of a Southern gentleman."
The problem with the Robert E. Vader concept is that Lee was commanding a rebellion, not trying to destroy one. :huh:
Go as William Tecumseh Vader, or Darth Sherman.
Obama Wan Kenobi.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkottkegae.appspot.com%2Fimages%2Fobama-lightsaber-02.jpg&hash=56e34f658107276b24bfa82835d4f3f3b77b34a4)
Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2009, 12:30:14 PM
Do it. What's the worst that could happen? :P
Rejection from somebody I like and work with fairly frequently?
Anyway, Obama Won Kenobi is an awesome idea, if I was black.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
Anyway, Obama Won Kenobi is an awesome idea, if I was black.
You don't need to be black. Just go in blackface. Nobody will be offended :)
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
Anyway, Obama Won Kenobi is an awesome idea, if I was black.
You don't need to be black. Just go in blackface. Nobody will be offended :)
Listen, I have no desire to get my offer for the summer revoked.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states. The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
Basically, they were pissed that we had moved on from the Articles of Confederation and wanted to bring back the doctrine of nullification.
See: McCulloch v Maryland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCulloch_v._Maryland)
McCulloch was in 1819 and the nullifcation crisis in the 1830s. By the 1850s, the Southern position had been effectively reversed - far from pushing for the right of states to cancel or nullify federal policy within their borders, the South sought and obtained extraordinary and unprecedented limitations on basic state powers, in the form of the various enactments relating to fugitive slave capture. In so doing, they also created what was in effect an ad hoc national police force, with the power and authority to override state law. And in 1857, the pro-Southern majority in the Supreme Court applied the federal constitution in such a way as to override state policy re free labor.
Thus, the events which led up to the Civil War, far from revolving around southern championing of state's rights. actually involved a frontal assault by the southern states on basic areas traditional state power and authority.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Listen, I have no desire to get my offer for the summer revoked.
What's your offer for the summer? :huh:
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 12:52:36 PM
You don't need to be black. Just go in blackface. Nobody will be offended :)
Listen, I have no desire to get my offer for the summer revoked.
It's cool; blackface is now
tres chic since Lara Stone appeared in French Vogue:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.nydailynews.com%2Fimg%2F2009%2F10%2F14%2Famd_french-vogue.jpg&hash=a604f329d6a946bf9b68baef3dcd9aaef744ca08)
Incidentally, I can't help but feel most people would find a Joseph Stalin costume less offensive, despite the fact he killed millions of people. Am I right?
(I want to reenact the Communist Party T-Shirt).
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
Incidentally, I can't help but feel most people would find a Joseph Stalin costume less offensive, despite the fact he killed millions of people. Am I right?
(I want to reenact the Communist Party T-Shirt).
Yes. He was a sadistic killer, but by God, he was OUR sadistic killer! :smoke:
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
Incidentally, I can't help but feel most people would find a Joseph Stalin costume less offensive, despite the fact he killed millions of people. Am I right?
(I want to reenact the Communist Party T-Shirt).
Yes. He was a sadistic killer, but by God, he was OUR sadistic killer! :smoke:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthereaganwing.files.wordpress.com%2F2007%2F08%2Fcommunist_party_t-shirt.jpg&hash=121fc24a7ebf1dff6ac8e66049b23cc5a49d1339)
I have gotten enough people to do this, so huzzah.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:07:34 PM
Within the EU, under Palpatine's command, there was:
1) Prophets of the Dark Side
2) the Inquisitorius
3) the Emperor's Hands
4) Palpatine's Dark Side Elite
I never knew that Palpatine was in command of the EU. That explains so much.
Quote from: Maximus on October 16, 2009, 02:41:45 PM
I never knew that Palpatine was in command of the EU. That explains so much.
It's gone downhill since Thrawn refused to sign the Treaty of Brussels.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 02:33:32 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
Incidentally, I can't help but feel most people would find a Joseph Stalin costume less offensive, despite the fact he killed millions of people. Am I right?
(I want to reenact the Communist Party T-Shirt).
Yes. He was a sadistic killer, but by God, he was OUR sadistic killer! :smoke:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthereaganwing.files.wordpress.com%2F2007%2F08%2Fcommunist_party_t-shirt.jpg&hash=121fc24a7ebf1dff6ac8e66049b23cc5a49d1339)
I have gotten enough people to do this, so huzzah.
Now that's pretty cool.
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 01:03:04 PM
What's your offer for the summer? :huh:
Pool boy in the Hamptons.
Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2009, 12:22:16 AM
Pool boy in the Hamptons.
And currently working for pharm, too... are you slowly turning into this guy?
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.tvguide.com%2FMediaBin%2FGalleries%2FShows%2FM_R%2FRi_Rp%2FRoyal_Pains%2Fcrops%2FRoyalPains3.jpg&hash=ef15f14bbd7a7df6be59fbf49d291f60789bc7cf)
Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Listen, I have no desire to get my offer for the summer revoked.
What's your offer for the summer? :huh:
In law school, students interview in the fall of the 2nd year for firm jobs for the following summer. You get your offers in the fall, work in the summer, and if they like you, you will have a job after your third year.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 17, 2009, 08:00:58 AM
And currently working for pharm, too... are you slowly turning into this guy?
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.tvguide.com%2FMediaBin%2FGalleries%2FShows%2FM_R%2FRi_Rp%2FRoyal_Pains%2Fcrops%2FRoyalPains3.jpg&hash=ef15f14bbd7a7df6be59fbf49d291f60789bc7cf)
I'm not Faeelin and I have no idea what that is an image of.
Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2009, 12:21:35 PM
I'm not Faeelin and I have no idea what that is an image of.
Evan Williams, from
Royal Pains. Actually, in retrospect, it was a pretty flimsy potshot. :(
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
Incidentally, I can't help but feel most people would find a Joseph Stalin costume less offensive, despite the fact he killed millions of people. Am I right?
(I want to reenact the Communist Party T-Shirt).
Well, I for one can't accept the implied equivalence Abe Lincoln = Addi Hitler. For Christ's sake, Old Abe was a goddamn' lawyer! :P
If you ask that seriously, I guess the proper comparison would be a Stalin costume in
Russia, and I bet there you would find both Stalin fanboys and people that remember all too well that NKVD killed their grandfathers, stole their cows and literally burned their bible.
Fucking kulaks got what they deserved.