Is a Confederate uniform an inappropriate halloween costume?

Started by Faeelin, September 06, 2009, 11:08:47 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:40:34 AM
Man living in a wannabe-like-Lettow state has made Caliga a traitor.
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Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states.  The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states.  The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.

Basically, they were pissed that we had moved on from the Articles of Confederation and wanted to bring back the doctrine of nullification.

See: McCulloch v Maryland
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Caliga

Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states.  The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.
I was trying to speak as TEH SOUTH in my reply to Faeelin, which was meant in jest as I think his post was.  :)
Kidding aside, we both know that the Civil War was not *actually* about states' rights.  Only Lettuce doesn't know that.
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Faeelin

Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:41:47 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 08:36:55 AM
I dunno, the EU suggests that half the population of Imperial Center were sith of some degree under Palptatine.

:blink: That's a new one to me.  When did this come up?

Within the EU, under Palpatine's command, there was:

1) Prophets of the Dark Side
2) the Inquisitorius
3)  the Emperor's Hands
4) Palpatine's  Dark Side Elite

Ideologue

Btw, this is pretty much exactly what I was talking about. :P

I mean, yeah, I'm as big or bigger a fucking nerd than anyone here--I even think the costume idea's sorta funny, although x amalgam with y costumes aren't really my bag.  But I would endeavor not to show off my knowledge of the Star Wars extended universe in mixed company without express invitation.

Then again, are chicks in wherever you are (I thought it was Duke?) impressed with an ability to recite the biography of Grand Admiral Thrawn?  If so, I'm in the wrong place. :(
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Ideologue

Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states.  The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.

Basically, they were pissed that we had moved on from the Articles of Confederation and wanted to bring back the doctrine of nullification.

See: McCulloch v Maryland

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Faeelin

Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
Then again, are chicks in wherever you are (I thought it was Duke?) impressed with an ability to recite the biography of Grand Admiral Thrawn?  If so, I'm in the wrong place. :(

Some of them are. It's a pretty geeky bunch, although at the moment I'm debating committing the unspeakable sin of going out with someone on the journal with me.

Ideologue

Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2009, 12:17:32 PM
Then again, are chicks in wherever you are (I thought it was Duke?) impressed with an ability to recite the biography of Grand Admiral Thrawn?  If so, I'm in the wrong place. :(

Some of them are. It's a pretty geeky bunch, although at the moment I'm debating committing the unspeakable sin of going out with someone on the journal with me.

Do it.  What's the worst that could happen? :P
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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states.  The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.

Why are you trying to hijack this thread into a Civil War thread?
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Syt

Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 07:45:14 AM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 15, 2009, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 07:25:06 AM
I actually find that funny.

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Faeelin

Quote from: Ideologue on October 16, 2009, 12:30:14 PM
Do it.  What's the worst that could happen? :P

Rejection from somebody I like and work with fairly frequently?

Anyway, Obama Won Kenobi is an awesome idea, if I was black.

Caliga

Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
Anyway, Obama Won Kenobi is an awesome idea, if I was black.
You don't need to be black.  Just go in blackface.  Nobody will be offended :)
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Faeelin

Quote from: Caliga on October 16, 2009, 12:52:36 PM
Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
Anyway, Obama Won Kenobi is an awesome idea, if I was black.
You don't need to be black.  Just go in blackface.  Nobody will be offended :)

Listen, I have no desire to get my offer for the summer revoked.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 16, 2009, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 16, 2009, 08:46:13 AM
Seriously though what rights exactly was the South protecting besides the right to move their slaves into the territories...which really has nothing to do with "State's Rights" since that was, you know, outside of their states.  The State's Rights thing was just empty media hype.

Basically, they were pissed that we had moved on from the Articles of Confederation and wanted to bring back the doctrine of nullification.

See: McCulloch v Maryland

McCulloch was in 1819 and the nullifcation crisis in the 1830s.  By the 1850s, the Southern position had been effectively reversed - far from pushing for the right of states to cancel or nullify federal policy within their borders, the South sought and obtained extraordinary and unprecedented limitations on basic state powers, in the form of the various enactments relating to fugitive slave capture.  In so doing, they also created what was in effect an ad hoc national police force, with the power and authority to override state law.  And in 1857, the pro-Southern majority in the Supreme Court applied the federal constitution in such a way as to override state policy re free labor.

Thus, the events which led up to the Civil War, far from revolving around southern championing of state's rights. actually involved a frontal assault by the southern states on basic areas traditional state power and authority.
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Caliga

Quote from: Faeelin on October 16, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Listen, I have no desire to get my offer for the summer revoked.
What's your offer for the summer?  :huh:
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