Spoilers: it's bugs, cost of living, housing market,and inequality.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36730174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36730174)
Reasons people DO move there:
Healthy lifestyles
Good air quality
Scenery
Friendly reputation
LGBT rights
Longer maternity leave
Opportunities for women (even the cabinet is gender balanced)
There are other cities than Toronto & Vancouver where CoL isn't that bad. For London Brits it's going to be dirt cheap.
Excellent education, free health care, fantastic air and environmental qualities are the main reasons often cited of why people go there.
I guess for the fantastic air, people do not go to oil-rich Alberta. :P
QuoteMeanwhile reports of mass suicide attempts in the First Nations community of Attawapiskat in Ontario in April brought renewed attention to the high levels of poverty and isolation experienced by Canada's 1.4 million indigenous people.
Well, I don't think a lot of Americans or Brits are packing up the family travois to follow the tatanka herd, so nobody really cares.
Quote from: Brazen on July 07, 2016, 06:06:11 AM
Opportunities for women (even the cabinet is gender balanced)
:D
Heh, the allegedly "horrifying" mosquito picture in the article is nothing. :lol: I think the guy who posted that would literally die of horror if he saw what the bugs in Northern Quebec were like, in a bad year.
To repeat an anecdote: one spring I was sitting on the screen porch, just as the sun went down (what we call 'the hour of the bug' - they prefer dusk and dawn). I thought I heard a motorboat approaching the dock - a very loud 'burrrrrrrrrr' sound, like a motor approaching. I shone my flashlight out the screen to discover what was making that sound - it was literally millions of mosquitos buzzing against the screen. The screen was shiny black with them, you could not even see out.
We pissed in buckets that night, rather than opening the door to go to the outhouse ... we didn't dare.
There are also many varieties of biting insects. Mosquitos are the most common, then there are blackflies - they are very numerous in spring (in some places, again, in huge swarms) but don't last long. Then there are stableflies (specialized in biting ankles), horseflies (huge and painful), and deerflies (very annoying - they always land on the back of your neck or head).
But to be fair, you won't see many bugs at all in the big cities. I've only seen like one mosquito in Toronto all year.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on July 07, 2016, 07:18:38 AM
I guess for the fantastic air, people do not go to oil-rich Alberta. :P
Well, I have never been to Alberta. But I suspect that Alberta has great air too.
The guy talking about bugs - he moved to Yellowknife, NWT. It's the middle of the sub-arctic. How the hell would he not know about the bugs - the NWT is notorious for its bugs.
Housing market - Vancouver and Toronto are the two most interesting places to live? Oh my.
And who the fuck moves to a places because of who the leader is? Leaders come and go all the time.
Think of all those poor bastards who moved to Canada just because they wanted to be ruled by Stephen Harper. :(
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
Think of all those poor bastards who moved to Canada just because they wanted to be ruled by Stephen Harper. :(
Those magnificent bastards. :(
Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
The guy talking about bugs - he moved to Yellowknife, NWT. It's the middle of the sub-arctic. How the hell would he not know about the bugs - the NWT is notorious for its bugs.
It is here. In other places, you would be surprised what people know about the NWT. ;) Namely, "nothing". :lol:
QuoteHousing market - Vancouver and Toronto are the two most interesting places to live? Oh my.
The article traffics in the truth. :)
QuoteAnd who the fuck moves to a places because of who the leader is? Leaders come and go all the time.
They just want the light of his countenance to shine upon them.
The place seems stuffed full of rather nice people, must be a hell-hole. :P
Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
Housing market - Vancouver and Toronto are the two most interesting places to live? Oh my.
:lol:
According to teleport.org I should move to Canada. :unsure:
Quote from: Tyr on July 07, 2016, 11:57:43 AM
According to teleport.org I should move to Canada. :unsure:
Do it! Comes to Alberta - we have coal mines! You'll feel right at home!
Alternately, you could probably swing a UX gig in Vancouver or Toronto... or one of the other, more interesting, places that BB can recommend :hug:
Regina could be interesting. You never know.
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 12:10:29 PM
Alternately, you could probably swing a UX gig in Vancouver or Toronto... or one of the other, more interesting, places that BB can recommend :hug:
I think Tyr and I are very very different people, and what I think is interesting might be different from what he thinks is interesting. -_-
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
Regina could be interesting. You never know.
Regina? *spit*
No, let me tell you about a lovely prairie city called Saskatoon...
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
Regina could be interesting. You never know.
'Regina - just two letters away from being interesting!' :P
QuoteI think Tyr and I are very very different people, and what I think is interesting might be different from what he thinks is interesting. -_-
:yes:
Rock > rocks
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 12:10:29 PM
Alternately, you could probably swing a UX gig in Vancouver or Toronto... or one of the other, more interesting, places that BB can recommend :hug:
My list was
1: Vancouever
2: Tokyo
3: Toronto
4: Edinburgh
5: Ottawa
London (UK) was on the top 5 too until I ticked the box that said low crime was important :lol:
Its a cool little site anyway. Would be interesting to see it with more work.
Ok what about Thunder Bay? That sounds like a dungeon in a MMORPG. Home of Dread Orc Pirates.
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
Ok what about Thunder Bay? That sounds like a dungeon in a MMORPG. Home of Dread Orc Pirates.
I'd tell you about the town of Dildo, Newfoundland, but that's probably not even legal in Texas. :D
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
Ok what about Thunder Bay? That sounds like a dungeon in a MMORPG. Home of Dread Orc Pirates.
I've been through Thunder Bay and there weren't any Orcs in sight, alas - it's more about Tim Horton's and a minor league hockey team.
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
Ok what about Thunder Bay? That sounds like a dungeon in a MMORPG. Home of Dread Orc Pirates.
I've been through Thunder Bay and there weren't any Orcs in sight, alas - it's more about Tim Horton's and a minor league hockey team.
Some minor hockey league parents can be as
belligerent as Orcs ... ;)
I see that everyone is conveniently avoiding mentioning the real hot bed of software development in Canada.
Altho, Tyr can't go there, as he would die.
Quote from: Tyr on July 07, 2016, 12:38:41 PM
QuoteI think Tyr and I are very very different people, and what I think is interesting might be different from what he thinks is interesting. -_-
:yes:
Rock > rocks
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 12:10:29 PM
Alternately, you could probably swing a UX gig in Vancouver or Toronto... or one of the other, more interesting, places that BB can recommend :hug:
My list was
1: Vancouever
2: Tokyo
3: Toronto
4: Edinburgh
5: Ottawa
London (UK) was on the top 5 too until I ticked the box that said low crime was important :lol:
Its a cool little site anyway. Would be interesting to see it with more work.
My list is coming up as
1. Madison
2. Tallinn
3. Edinburgh
4. Boulder
5. Cluj-Napoca
Other than the fact I'm not moving to Romania any time soon, a pretty reasonable list. I haven't been in awhile but Madison did seem like a very nice town.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 07, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
I see that everyone is conveniently avoiding mentioning the real hot bed of software development in Canada.
Altho, Tyr can't go there, as he would die.
He would still be subjected to all official signs and documents being in the language that shall not be named.
I got:
1. Cluj-Napoca, Romania
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Tartu, Estonia
4. Zurich, Switzerland
5. Singapore
:blink:
Among US Cities Austin came in #3 behind Madison and Boulder. Which, to the best of my knowledge, are basically just colder versions of Austin.
Madison is pretty different from Austin IMO. Less highway-ish, more scruffy alt rock hippy-ish, less tight jeans blues-ish.
1. Copenhagen
2. Vienna
3. Utrecht
4. Singapore
5. Eindhoven
That makes sense, perhaps apart from Singapore, though I loved it when I did live there (50 years ago).
1.) Tallinn, Estonia
2.) Tartu, Estonia
3.) Cluj-Napoca, Romania
4.) Minsk, Belarus
5.) Vilnius, Lithuania
What an adventure those would be; but I don't think I could talk my wife to moving into any of those places.
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:42:59 PM
Ok what about Thunder Bay? That sounds like a dungeon in a MMORPG. Home of Dread Orc Pirates.
I've been through Thunder Bay and there weren't any Orcs in sight, alas - it's more about Tim Horton's and a minor league hockey team.
Don't believe him, Valmy, Jacob just wants all the Dread Orc Pirate gold for himself.
Quote from: Savonarola on July 07, 2016, 03:10:36 PM
1.) Tallinn, Estonia
2.) Tartu, Estonia
3.) Cluj-Napoca, Romania
4.) Minsk, Belarus
5.) Vilnius, Lithuania
What an adventure those would be; but I don't think I could talk my wife to moving into any of those places.
What did you select to end up in the Eastern Bloc? :lol:
Quote from: Savonarola on July 07, 2016, 03:11:48 PM
Don't believe him, Valmy, Jacob just wants all the Dread Orc Pirate gold for himself.
:whistle:
Quote from: The Larch on July 07, 2016, 03:24:46 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 07, 2016, 03:10:36 PM
1.) Tallinn, Estonia
2.) Tartu, Estonia
3.) Cluj-Napoca, Romania
4.) Minsk, Belarus
5.) Vilnius, Lithuania
What an adventure those would be; but I don't think I could talk my wife to moving into any of those places.
What did you select to end up in the Eastern Bloc? :lol:
I said I wasn't overly worried about corruption or crime (being from Detroit and all
1.), but no to pollution or traffic (it was trying to stick me in Hyderabad before that).
1.) Actually maybe I could talk CB into those places; it will be just like home, dear, only they speak Estonian. You'll pick it up in no time.
Edit: The only two cities on my top 10 that aren't in eastern Europe are Valencia and Porto. :lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's not? :)
Winter = no deadly snakes, no deadly spiders, no gigantic reptiles that take a kid from the beach and drag him underwater for a late nigh snack, no white sharks near the beaches, no nothing that could ambush you in the dark and bite you until you die an horrible painful death.
Quote from: viper37 on July 07, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's not? :)
Winter = no deadly snakes, no deadly spiders, no gigantic reptiles that take a kid from the beach and drag him underwater for a late nigh snack, no white sharks near the beaches, no nothing that could ambush you in the dark and bite you until you die an horrible painful death.
Well, the cougars presumably have to eat during winter too, even if the bears hibernate.
Another thing not mentioned in the article is that Canada seems to be filled to the brim with lawyers, if Languish is any indication.
Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2016, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
Regina could be interesting. You never know.
Regina? *spit*
No, let me tell you about a lovely prairie city called Saskatoon...
Buddy says hi.
Buddy's real talent was beating people up
His heart wasn't in it but the crowd ate it up
Through pee-wee's and juniors, midgets and mites
He must have racked up more than six hundred fights
A scout from the flames came down from Saskatoon
Said, "There's always room on our team for a goon..."
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 04:12:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 07, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's not? :)
Winter = no deadly snakes, no deadly spiders, no gigantic reptiles that take a kid from the beach and drag him underwater for a late nigh snack, no white sharks near the beaches, no nothing that could ambush you in the dark and bite you until you die an horrible painful death.
Well, the cougars presumably have to eat during winter too, even if the bears hibernate.
No cougars where I live :yeah:
Quote from: DGuller on July 07, 2016, 04:13:24 PM
Another thing not mentioned in the article is that Canada seems to be filled to the brim with lawyers, if Languish is any indication.
Yet another point in Canada's favour. :cool:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Never experienced a Canadian winter but I can imagine it is fantastic.
All of the good sides (snow, being snug around a fire, bracing air) with none of the bad sides (darkness)
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Winters in Vancouver are pretty mild.
Quote from: Tyr on July 07, 2016, 05:12:20 PM
Never experienced a Canadian winter but I can imagine it is fantastic.
All of the good sides (snow, being snug around a fire, bracing air) with none of the bad sides (darkness)
:o
Josq being naively positive about something!?!?!
Trump's candidacy, Brexit, and now this. 2016 is truly a strange year.
Quote from: DGuller on July 07, 2016, 04:13:24 PM
Another thing not mentioned in the article is that Canada seems to be filled to the brim with lawyers, if Languish is any indication.
And not an accountant in sight! Truly, Canada is a blessed land. :)
Quote from: Malthus on July 07, 2016, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 07, 2016, 04:13:24 PM
Another thing not mentioned in the article is that Canada seems to be filled to the brim with lawyers, if Languish is any indication.
And not an accountant in sight! Truly, Canada is a blessed land. :)
What do you have against HVC?
Quote from: Jacob on July 07, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: Malthus on July 07, 2016, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 07, 2016, 04:13:24 PM
Another thing not mentioned in the article is that Canada seems to be filled to the brim with lawyers, if Languish is any indication.
And not an accountant in sight! Truly, Canada is a blessed land. :)
What do you have against HVC?
Hush, you. :D
:weep:
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
I got:
1. Cluj-Napoca, Romania
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Tartu, Estonia
4. Zurich, Switzerland
5. Singapore
:blink:
Better than me. My top 5:
1) Sofia
2) Skopje
3) Budapest
4) Minsk
5) Prague
The only Western cities in my top 25 were Montreal, San Jose, and Berlin. The top US cities other than San Jose were Oklahoma City, San Antonio, Austin, and Salt Lake City.
Maybe I ought to try it again and check "low corruption" as important, but I think what's really screwing with the results is that our mortgage payment is so low.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Easily if you realize that not all Canada is Edmonton :P
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 07, 2016, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Easily if you realize that not all Canada is Edmonton :P
Pshaw.
Edmonton has pretty wimpy winters compared to Winnipeg (lots more snow) or Whitehorse (lots more darkness).
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's expected and even the most naive person considering a move there will be prepared for that. As the article says:
"It should come as no surprise that areas of Canada can get very cold in the winter - temperatures can drop to -40C (-40F) with severe wind chills."
Quote from: viper37 on July 07, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's not? :)
Winter = no deadly snakes, no deadly spiders, no gigantic reptiles that take a kid from the beach and drag him underwater for a late nigh snack, no white sharks near the beaches, no nothing that could ambush you in the dark and bite you until you die an horrible painful death.
you can already apply to Estonian E-citizenship to test it out ;-)
https://e-estonia.com/e-residents/about/
My list comes up as:
1. Singapore
2. London
3. LA
4. Hong Kong
5. Toronto
I've worked in Singapore, visited Hong Kong a couple of times and have relatives in Toronto. Singapore and Hong Kong are tiny compared with London and its urban sprawl and I fear I'd have seen and done it all in a few years. Maybe I'll just stick with second best.
Grüss Gott,
I have apparently a very German taste (except for number 5)
1)Wien
2)Berlin
3)Köln
4)München
5)Kobenhavn
I've only been to Cologne of the cities above. To be honest I found it a modern boring city, i suspect a consequence of the bombings, nice Roman Museum and Cathedral though.
Would love to visit Vienna & Berlin though.
Well mind you, weather made things a bit odd as there was no nice choice like say SD weather (so I went with SF), here's what I got.
1) Ottawa
2) Glasgow
3) Belfast
4) Bristol
5) Singapore
:hmm:
edit: Weather seems to have little impact in their algorithm...<_<
Before we all set off to Singapore to set up a Languish commune, let us remind ourselves of its rather intolerant views towards homosexuality, chewing gum, smoking, litter and vandalism (for which an American was famously caned). Also:
QuoteNot flushing the toilet is more than just a breach of propriety in Singapore, you will be breaking the law if you do so. Expect to pay a fine if you get caught. Don't even think of urinating in elevators, as they are equipped with Urine Detection Devices (UDD), which detect the scent of urine, setting off an alarm and closing the doors until the police arrive to arrest the offender.
http://www.goabroad.com/articles/study-abroad/singapore-laws-to-know-before-you-go (http://www.goabroad.com/articles/study-abroad/singapore-laws-to-know-before-you-go)
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 04:35:27 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's expected and even the most naive person considering a move there will be prepared for that. As the article says:
"It should come as no surprise that areas of Canada can get very cold in the winter - temperatures can drop to -40C (-40F) with severe wind chills."
:lol: That's funny Berry.
The Africans are never ready. (Both Arabs & Blacks)
I dunno, if you were to do word association and someone said Canada, cold would be up there with Mounties, ice hockey, poutine and saying "Eh".
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 06:24:12 AM
I dunno, if you were to do word association and someone said Canada, cold would be up there with Mounties, ice hockey, poutine and saying "Eh".
Yes but they don't know what "cold" is or how winter is different from where you are from.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 07, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
The pervasive smugness will keep you warm, like naturally occurring hot springs.
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 08, 2016, 07:08:36 AM
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 06:24:12 AM
I dunno, if you were to do word association and someone said Canada, cold would be up there with Mounties, ice hockey, poutine and saying "Eh".
Yes but they don't know what "cold" is or how winter is different from where you are from.
Heh, this is true. I've had visitors come who knew intellectually what temperatures in Canada were like in winter, but were totally unprepared anyway. Just knowing it can get down to (say) -30 C isn't the same thing as knowing what being outside in -30 weather is like.
One example was my brother's wife, who is English. She came to visit us one February. We all told her it was a bad idea to come in the dead of winter, but she insisted she was well prepared for it; well, she wasn't. ;)
I don't think that the typical English person would know what sort of clothes are needed for -30 C.
On the other hand I have seen Canadians grumbling about how cold it was in the English winter :lol:
The reason being that English people live in ancient draughty homes and do things like "I'll turn the heating off, its not that cold" or dash off to the pub in light clothing hoping to get to the warm before they get too chilled.
On my one visit to Canada the weather was all over the place as it was march/april. The strange thing for me was that the houses I stayed in were so weatherproof that I had no idea what the outside temperature was without a proper check.
That is just a basic difference between Europe and North America. I mean it was not as hot in the south of France as it was in Texas but there was rarely any AC. The French just sort of sat around being hot or hoped their ancient stone buildings would stay cool. So as a result it was kind of uncomfortable even for a Texan.
There are clothes for 30C, clothes for 20C, clothes for 10C, and clothes for 0C. However, I would have assumed that the clothes for 0C are basically invincible. So the clothes for -30C are the same as the clothes for 0C.
Quote from: garbon on July 08, 2016, 05:49:08 AM
Well mind you, weather made things a bit odd as there was no nice choice like say SD weather (so I went with SF), here's what I got.
1) Ottawa
2) Glasgow
3) Belfast
4) Bristol
5) Singapore
:hmm:
edit: Weather seems to have little impact in their algorithm...<_<
I'm suspicious of any algorithm that would put Ottawa at the top of a "cities for you" list. I mean it's a nice enough city and all, but still...
Quote from: Monoriu on July 08, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
There are clothes for 30C, clothes for 20C, clothes for 10C, and clothes for 0C. However, I would have assumed that the clothes for 0C are basically invincible. So the clothes for -30C are the same as the clothes for 0C.
I think you are wrong about this. Sure it gets down to 0C here in Texas from time to time so I thought I was pretty well prepared. Then one winter it got down to about -15 and hung out there for about a week. Holy shit did I learn I needed different clothes than for 0C. So in the unlikely event that it ever gets that cold for that long again I have a big winter coat :P
Quote from: Jacob on July 08, 2016, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 08, 2016, 05:49:08 AM
Well mind you, weather made things a bit odd as there was no nice choice like say SD weather (so I went with SF), here's what I got.
1) Ottawa
2) Glasgow
3) Belfast
4) Bristol
5) Singapore
:hmm:
edit: Weather seems to have little impact in their algorithm...<_<
I'm suspicious of any algorithm that would put Ottawa at the top of a "cities for you" list. I mean it's a nice enough city and all, but still...
Edinburgh was my top one until I said that I wanted over 500k population.
Belfast and Bristol are fairly nice but I think I'd quickly get bored with both (<2 years).
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Quote from: Monoriu on July 08, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
There are clothes for 30C, clothes for 20C, clothes for 10C, and clothes for 0C. However, I would have assumed that the clothes for 0C are basically invincible. So the clothes for -30C are the same as the clothes for 0C.
Degrees are not linear.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 08, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
There are clothes for 30C, clothes for 20C, clothes for 10C, and clothes for 0C. However, I would have assumed that the clothes for 0C are basically invincible. So the clothes for -30C are the same as the clothes for 0C.
Woah, not so. In 0 C, you can get by in a sweater or windbreaker if you are active. In -30, you would quickly freeze to death dressed like that. :lol:
At -30, exposed skin freezes fast: less than ten minutes. So you have to cover up, with insulated layers. The big problem at those temps is avoiding wearing too much clothing for your activity level - if you are active while wearing thick insulation, you start to sweat. So you need to wear layers.
Edit: Mono, it is lucky you lived in Vancouver! ;)
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Bristol is pretty nice. Lovely museums and churches. Nice eateries outside and some good views around as well. Leeds and Cardiff are definitely more boring.
I worked with Canadian colleagues, and their counterparts back home were told not to come into work when it was below -20C, I think, as the risk of frostbite was too high.
Quote from: garbon on July 08, 2016, 10:03:17 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Bristol is pretty nice.
Also Cockney rhyming slang for boobs. I'll let you work that one out yourselves.
Just out of interest, I was thinking about what exactly I was wearing when I had to spend some time outside on the coldest day I can remember - it was down to -38 C.
On feet: two pairs of socks - an inner wicking one, and an outer fleecy one. The pants tucked into the outer socks. Insulated boots.
On legs: wicking long underwear, then an insulating thick long underwear, then pants.
On torso: wicking long underwear top, then a shirt, then a down-filled coat.
On head: balaclava, goggles, down-filled hood. Exposed skin (lips etc.) smeared with Vaseline.
On hands: thick mitts with fur on the inside (gloves are useless when it is that cold).
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 10:14:07 AM
I worked with Canadian colleagues, and their counterparts back home were told not to come into work when it was below -20C, I think, as the risk of frostbite was too high.
Heh. -20 isn't so bad. It is that cold for weeks at a time here, and we certainly go to work in it. ;)
Quote from: Grey Fox on July 08, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 08, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
There are clothes for 30C, clothes for 20C, clothes for 10C, and clothes for 0C. However, I would have assumed that the clothes for 0C are basically invincible. So the clothes for -30C are the same as the clothes for 0C.
Degrees are not linear.
Actually, they are. :nerd:
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Been there only briefly but I hear it and Brighton are the 2 good cities in the south
I think Bristol is only boring to someone who is spending their first year in London, Paris, NY et al and is striking a bit of a pose.
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 08, 2016, 10:03:17 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Bristol is pretty nice.
Also Cockney rhyming slang for boobs. I'll let you work that one out yourselves.
Unimpressed as it seems the Bristol bit is irrelevant. <_<
Quote from: Tyr on July 08, 2016, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Been there only briefly but I hear it and Brighton are the 2 good cities in the south
Just out of interest, where does "the south" start for you? Manchester?
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 11:01:22 AM
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I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Been there only briefly but I hear it and Brighton are the 2 good cities in the south
Just out of interest, where does "the south" start for you? Manchester?
I know it's wrong but it's somewhat there in my mind anyway: York.
Serious answer: the border runs between the Humber and the Mersey
I use the old counties for my definition of the North, which is Cumberland, Westmorland, Northumberland, Durham, Lancashire and Yorkshire.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
I have been told Bristol is one of the most boring places in the world. But those people have never spent time in a Texas suburb so what do they know?
Well Bristol is sort of disfigured by it's outer 'ring road' and how traffic is handled nearer in and in the city centre itself; from my point of view it somewhat spoils the place, though it has some good museums.
Can't speak for the nightlife as i've not been out in the city for many a year, used to have some quite good music venue.s
Quote from: Brazen on July 08, 2016, 06:10:33 AM
Before we all set off to Singapore to set up a Languish commune, let us remind ourselves of its rather intolerant views towards homosexuality, chewing gum, smoking, litter and vandalism (for which an American was famously caned). Also:
QuoteNot flushing the toilet is more than just a breach of propriety in Singapore, you will be breaking the law if you do so. Expect to pay a fine if you get caught. Don’t even think of urinating in elevators, as they are equipped with Urine Detection Devices (UDD), which detect the scent of urine, setting off an alarm and closing the doors until the police arrive to arrest the offender.
http://www.goabroad.com/articles/study-abroad/singapore-laws-to-know-before-you-go (http://www.goabroad.com/articles/study-abroad/singapore-laws-to-know-before-you-go)
I don't think I've ever stepped into an elevator and thought, "This would be a good place to take a leak". Is urinating in elevators a British thing?
I've heard of it happening.... but that it would be enough of a problem lifts all need special detectors to stop it?
Seems overkill.
Quote from: dps on July 08, 2016, 03:53:08 PM
I don't think I've ever stepped into an elevator and thought, "This would be a good place to take a leak".
If you're alone, why not?
I've never considered peeing in an elevator to be a thing at all likely for anyone to do.
Quote from: Malthus on July 08, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
I've never considered peeing in an elevator to be a thing at all likely for anyone to do.
The courthouse elevator sometimes has quite an aroma coming from it.
I've never heard of anyone doing that, seems remarkably dangerous too, given it's a steel proto-coffin driven by electronic controls, you might at the least cause it to malfunction and grind to a halt?
Quote from: Barrister on July 08, 2016, 04:12:11 PM
Quote from: Malthus on July 08, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
I've never considered peeing in an elevator to be a thing at all likely for anyone to do.
The courthouse elevator sometimes has quite an aroma coming from it.
Those Crowns and Judges must be real pigs.
;)
One major disadvantage of using elevators to relieve yourself is that inevitably the puddle comes back to you, no matter how much effort you make to aim at a diagonally opposed corner. Elevator cars tend to be perfectly level by design.
Elevators at the NYC subway are all about being urination spots.
Quote from: Barrister on July 07, 2016, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 07, 2016, 12:15:47 PM
Regina could be interesting. You never know.
Unless Saskatoon has drastically changed, the average citizen is in their late 50s.
Regina? *spit*
No, let me tell you about a lovely prairie city called Saskatoon...
Quote from: DGuller on July 08, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
Quote from: dps on July 08, 2016, 03:53:08 PM
I don't think I've ever stepped into an elevator and thought, "This would be a good place to take a leak".
If you're alone, why not?
When I was single, I was alone in bed a lot, but I never considered that a good place to pee either.
Quote from: dps on July 08, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: DGuller on July 08, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
Quote from: dps on July 08, 2016, 03:53:08 PM
I don't think I've ever stepped into an elevator and thought, "This would be a good place to take a leak".
If you're alone, why not?
When I was single, I was alone in bed a lot, but I never considered that a good place to pee either.
That's a different situation. In that situation your subconsciousness often makes the choice for you.
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How can you write an article about the disadvantages of Canada and not mention winter? :huh:
Because it's expected and even the most naive person considering a move there will be prepared for that. As the article says:
"It should come as no surprise that areas of Canada can get very cold in the winter - temperatures can drop to -40C (-40F) with severe wind chills."
More to the point why would anyone move to those parts when there are far better parts. :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2016, 08:59:53 PMMore to the point why would anyone move to those parts when there are far better parts. :)
When did Canada annex some Caribbean islands?
Foolishly they passed on the opportunity.
The American grasp of geography can be weak at times but Vancouver is nowhere near the Caribbean.
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
The American grasp of geography can be weak at times but Vancouver is nowhere near the Caribbean.
So, therefore, it is not far better. How is your summer going? Put away the sweaters yet?
Quote from: Malthus on July 08, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
I've never considered peeing in an elevator to be a thing at all likely for anyone to do.
I've never considered peeing in an airplane alley to be a thing at all likely for anyone to do. Yet, it happenned.
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:15:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2016, 08:59:53 PMMore to the point why would anyone move to those parts when there are far better parts. :)
When did Canada annex some Caribbean islands?
we talk about it, from time to time. With all the help we sent Haiti, we could have bought the place and turn it into a resort of some kind :(
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2016, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
The American grasp of geography can be weak at times but Vancouver is nowhere near the Caribbean.
So, therefore, it is not far better. How is your summer going? Put away the sweaters yet?
right now, it's 15C in Vancouver. Also 15C in my hometown. I don't see how it's much better... ;)
Quote from: viper37 on July 09, 2016, 12:23:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 08, 2016, 09:15:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 08, 2016, 08:59:53 PMMore to the point why would anyone move to those parts when there are far better parts. :)
When did Canada annex some Caribbean islands?
we talk about it, from time to time. With all the help we sent Haiti, we could have bought the place and turn it into a resort of some kind :(
I'm not sure there's enough money in all of Canada to turn Haiti from a shithole into a resort. I'm not sure there's enough money in the entire Western Hemisphere for that.
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2016, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
The American grasp of geography can be weak at times but Vancouver is nowhere near the Caribbean.
So, therefore, it is not far better. How is your summer going? Put away the sweaters yet?
The rare days we do not have perfect weather I comfort myself by thinking of all those people in Texas.
Quote from: viper37 on July 09, 2016, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 09, 2016, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 09, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
The American grasp of geography can be weak at times but Vancouver is nowhere near the Caribbean.
So, therefore, it is not far better. How is your summer going? Put away the sweaters yet?
right now, it's 15C in Vancouver. Also 15C in my hometown. I don't see how it's much better... ;)
Yeah, its a really bad day today. Lets compare one of your winter days when it goes below 0 ;)
I have no idea which five cities in the world I'd like to move to. Because it is so obvious that Hong Kong is the only place where I have any realistic chance of finding a job. I am basically unemployable elsewhere. Finding work will be a waste of time. But if I have to put down something to complete the list, it will be -
1. Hong Kong
2. London (UK citizen, happiest city on earth, friendly people, fantastic food, racially tolerant)
3. Toronto (Canadian citizen, biggest city in Canada, racially tolerant)
4. Shanghai (biggest city in China, internet issues, air quality issues)
5. Singapore (would be no. 2 on this list if not for the small problem that I don't have Singaporean citizenship or right to live there)
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1.) Tallinn, Estonia
2.) Tartu, Estonia
3.) Cluj-Napoca, Romania
4.) Minsk, Belarus
5.) Vilnius, Lithuania
What an adventure those would be; but I don't think I could talk my wife to moving into any of those places.
What did you select to end up in the Eastern Bloc? :lol:
I said I wasn't overly worried about corruption or crime (being from Detroit and all 1.), but no to pollution or traffic (it was trying to stick me in Hyderabad before that).
1.) Actually maybe I could talk CB into those places; it will be just like home, dear, only they speak Estonian. You'll pick it up in no time.
On the subject of places that are just like Detroit; CB took the quiz and she ended up with Manchester, Edinburgh :scots:, Leeds and Birmingham (Glasgow must not have been an option.) So you can take the gal out of the industrial wasteland, but you can't take the industrial wasteland out of the gal.
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2016, 06:08:49 PM
Because it is so obvious that Hong Kong is the only place where I have any realistic chance of finding a job. I am basically unemployable elsewhere.
Why so? Canada&USA still hires Chinese, even though we don't build so much railroads as before, you know. ;)
Quote from: viper37 on July 11, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on July 09, 2016, 06:08:49 PM
Because it is so obvious that Hong Kong is the only place where I have any realistic chance of finding a job. I am basically unemployable elsewhere.
Why so? Canada&USA still hires Chinese, even though we don't build so much railroads as before, you know. ;)
My skill set is pretty much limited to working in a government setting, specifically the Hong Kong government. If I leave the government, I am semi-confident that I can find work in Hong Kong NGOs or government-related institutions, like universities. But other than that, my knowledge and skills are pretty much useless. Canadian institutions will be much better off hiring someone a lot younger and cheaper than me.
I'm sure Tim Horton's would hire you.
I would hire you, Mono. I would give you a razor-sharp bowler's hat, with which you would dispatch my enemies with brutal fiscal conservatism. You would be called: Han Seng.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 11, 2016, 08:55:31 PM
I'm sure Tim Horton's would hire you.
He's not Filipino.
I wouldn't hire any of you. Except Seedy and Peedy.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
I wouldn't hire any of you. Except Seedy and Peedy.
I don't discriminate. I would gladly prosecute each and every one of you. :)
I'd hire Tim to work in Ed Anger Propety Management, LLC and have a contractor shoot him in the head with a nail gun.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
I'd hire Tim to work in Ed Anger Propety Management, LLC and have a contractor shoot him in the head with a nail gun.
Would you consider a languishite for the contractor position? Asking for a friend.
Quote from: Barrister on July 12, 2016, 12:25:26 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
I wouldn't hire any of you. Except Seedy and Peedy.
I don't discriminate. I would gladly prosecute each and every one of you. :)
I didn't know associating with you was a criminal offence. ;)
Quote from: Jacob on July 12, 2016, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
I'd hire Tim to work in Ed Anger Propety Management, LLC and have a contractor shoot him in the head with a nail gun.
Would you consider a languishite for the contractor position? Asking for a friend.
Seriously? No.
Quote from: Jacob on July 12, 2016, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2016, 12:27:23 PM
I'd hire Tim to work in Ed Anger Propety Management, LLC and have a contractor shoot him in the head with a nail gun.
Would you consider a languishite for the contractor position? Asking for a friend.
And can Jacob's friend use a Nagant instead? :unsure:
Heh, I misspelled "property".