Languishing Yet Again (VQ game)

[Berkut]

You do that, and I will never make another deal with you again in any game. Ever.

Cut that drama queen hyperbole. You made me choose between promises made to you, promises made to others and remaining competetive, deal with it.

Fair enough. We made a deal, that deal was very simple. I give you a treasure, you play a card for me.

If you made a promise to someone else that makes your promise to me impossible (and other than "I promise not to play this card as an event", there is no possible such promise) then you lied to me or to them.

Otherwise, there is absolutely nothing about events that makes it impossible for you to fulfill your end of our deal, except that you are simply screwing me and never intended to fulfill it. Which is fine, and perfectly within the rules.

Just don't bother ever sending me a message about a proposal. If I cannot trust you, I am not going to deal with you. You only get to fuck me once.

[ulmont]

France: Play Card as Event
#72: 4 / War with Poland
Playable if Holy Roman Empire is not at war with Ottoman. Holy Roman player must remove 3 to 8 land units from the map and place them (along with any leaders desired) on this Foreign War card (23.7). Poles start with either 3 or 5 land units (chosen by power playing card). If the higher number, award 1 War Winner to Holy Roman when war ends. Add a -1 card marker on Holy Roman until war ends.

Message from France:
Since those conversions are in the Netherlands, it doesn't affect my move.

Viking, you want me to just toss the entire 4 regulars and 2 leaders onto the event, or just 3 regulars and leave Schwendi/Zyrinyi with 1 regular, or some combination thereof?  I'm going to put 5 Poles into play either way.

I sent a file with Spanish and French moves, assuming just the bare minimum units moved onto the foreign war; Viking is up to adjust and to play (if the Netherlands conversions don't affect him).

[Viking]

Take the whole stack i Strassburg 4R and both leaders plus 1 regular from vienna.

[ulmont]

Take the whole stack i Strassburg 4R and both leaders plus 1 regular from vienna.

Two minutes.

Correction file sent.

[Solmyr]

Netherlands conversions from Belgic: expand start area to Utrecht with one major, then convert Haarlem, Brielle, s'Hertogenbosch, Maastricht, and Flushing with the rest. Unrest in s'Hertogenbosch.

[ulmont]

Netherlands conversions from Belgic: expand start area to Utrecht with one major, then convert Haarlem, Brielle, s'Hertogenbosch, Maastricht, and Flushing with the rest. Unrest in s'Hertogenbosch.

File sent with those adjustments in it.  Viking up to play.

[Viking]

Holy Roman Empire: Play Card as Operations
#73: 5 / War in Persia
Ottoman player must remove 3 to 8 land units from the map and place them (along with any leaders desired) on this Foreign War card (23.7). Persians start with either 3 or 5 land units (chosen by power playing card). If the higher number, award 1 War Winner to Ottoman when war ends. Add a -1 card marker on Ottoman until war ends.

Message from Holy Roman Empire:
4/5 Build 4 mercs on Poland War Card
5/5 Resolve foreign war

Solmyr, can you roll the 10 HRE dice vs 5 Polish dice.

[Viking]

BTW, nice detail, putting the disorder marker on the protestant spaces track to show how many protestant spaces are in disorder.

[Solmyr]

You can only have 8 units on a foreign war at once, and you moved 5r there. I assume the regular from Vienna will stay home instead and the 4 mercs will be built on the war.

[Viking]

You can only have 8 units on a foreign war at once, and you moved 5r there. I assume the regular from Vienna will stay home instead and the 4 mercs will be built on the war.

Yes, that seems to be the case.

The vienna regular stays

4/5 Build 1R2M on Card
5/5 Resolve war.

So pre-war 6R2M

9 dice vs 5

[Maximus]

[Solmyr]

Request: 6-sided die x 15

2
4
2
3
2
4
6
1
1
2
4
5
6
4
5


Message from Protestants:
Viking vs Martinus, 10 vs 5 dice.

Actually should be 9 vs 5 so ignoring the last one.

The Germans inflict one hit but suffer two and flee in terror as the enemy starts performing foot sex.

Well, you asked me to roll.

[Solmyr]

I can send the file with this and my own play in a min.

[ulmont]

Request: 6-sided die x 15

2
4
2
3
2
4
6
1
1
2
4
5
6
4
5


Message from Protestants:
Viking vs Martinus, 10 vs 5 dice.

Actually should be 9 vs 5 so ignoring the last one.

The Germans inflict one hit but suffer two and flee in terror as the enemy starts performing foot sex.

Well, you asked me to roll.

The Germans suffer 3 hits; you should ignore the last HRE die, not the last die period.

EDIT: looking at some PBEM campaigns, the "discard extras" is a bit ambiguous on this point, so fuck it as long as we're consistent when this comes up again.

[Solmyr]

Protestants: Play Card as Event

#60: 2 / John Knox
Flip all but 1 space in Scotland to Protestant religious influence.

- OR -

Playable by England or Protestant to add 4 influence with Scotland.

Message from Protestants:
Add 4 inf with Scotland.

Off to Habs.