Walmart Workers Threaten to Strike on Black Friday

[merithyn]

Yes, that is exactly what I am talking.  If you dont think that laws which allow employers to not pay people holiday pay for working on holidays is draconian then we dont have a sufficient base line from which further discussion is fruitful.  You would probably also defend the ironically named Right to Work Legislation also.

There's just a fundamental difference of how one views "holiday pay". It is, in effect, a perk, not a right. People are more willing to work for a company that pays it, but that doesn't mean that every company should be required to pay it.

[crazy canuck]

Yes, that is exactly what I am talking.  If you dont think that laws which allow employers to not pay people holiday pay for working on holidays is draconian then we dont have a sufficient base line from which further discussion is fruitful.  You would probably also defend the ironically named Right to Work Legislation also.

There's just a fundamental difference of how one views "holiday pay". It is, in effect, a perk, not a right. People are more willing to work for a company that pays it, but that doesn't mean that every company should be required to pay it.

Wow, a perk?

You guys get the society you deserve I suppose.

[CountDeMoney]

Hey seedy - you ever worked in a unionized position? 

Yup.

[garbon]

All of your post was very bizarre. It was like you were having some imaginary conversation with yourself.

No, we were talking about shitty Wal Mart employees and the types of hourly rate fuck overs companies enjoy employing, and you're like, "lawls, I have to sign HR paper work too, lawls smiley". 

You simply reinforced Jacob's and CC's points, along with the added delight of the usual homo self-centeredness.

That only stemmed from you getting smug when I questioned the idea that it was Republican lawmakers who put such policies in place.

I know all too well how poorly Walmart treats its employees. My father was employed there for a bit.

[Barrister]

Hey seedy - you ever worked in a unionized position? 

Yup.

And you're still pro-union?

[crazy canuck]

Hey seedy - you ever worked in a unionized position? 

Yup.

And you're still pro-union?

Public sector unions are one thing.  But unions that protect against not paying people for working on statutory holidays are quite another.

[katmai]

Hey seedy - you ever worked in a unionized position? 

Yup.

And you're still pro-union?

[Barrister]

I know all too well how poorly Walmart treats its employees. My father was employed there for a bit.

I dunno about that.  My brothersfirstroommatewhosemotherdiedandhehadnootherfamilysoweinvitehimtoallthebigholidays and his wife worked (and even met) at Walmart.  He had worked his share of service jobs, and Walmart was far from the worst.  I can remember dropping him off at Walmart Christmas night so he could get ready for the insane boxing day sales, which definitely sucked for him, but beyond that they were fairly decent in terms of pay and scheduling.

As far as crap service jobs go, Walmart is one of the better ones.

[mongers]

I'm not sure America can win this race to the bottom; hell I was treated badly as an employee, so you should accept worse treatment otherwise unions will take over the country.

[crazy canuck]

I know all too well how poorly Walmart treats its employees. My father was employed there for a bit.

I dunno about that.  My brothersfirstroommatewhosemotherdiedandhehadnootherfamilysoweinvitehimtoallthebigholidays and his wife worked (and even met) at Walmart.  He had worked his share of service jobs, and Walmart was far from the worst.  I can remember dropping him off at Walmart Christmas night so he could get ready for the insane boxing day sales, which definitely sucked for him, but beyond that they were fairly decent in terms of pay and scheduling.

As far as crap service jobs go, Walmart is one of the better ones.

Canada has minimum standards legislation.   

[CountDeMoney]

Hey seedy - you ever worked in a unionized position? 

Yup.

And you're still pro-union?

No shit, right?  Cops and firefighter unions = good, but teachers, truckers and low wage saps? ZOMG teh evul.

[Barrister]

Hey seedy - you ever worked in a unionized position? 

Yup.

And you're still pro-union?

No shit, right?  Cops and firefighter unions = good, but teachers, truckers and low wage saps? ZOMG teh evul.

When on earth did I ever say that police and firefighter unions are good?

[garbon]

I'm not sure America can win this race to the bottom; hell I was treated badly as an employee, so you should accept worse treatment otherwise unions will take over the country.

Okay...*backs away slowly*

[merithyn]

I'm not sure America can win this race to the bottom; hell I was treated badly as an employee, so you should accept worse treatment otherwise unions will take over the country.

What the hell does that even mean?

By the way, I never said that because I was treated badly as an employee others should be treated the same. I said that it's the nature of the beast in some industries. I don't consider it being treated badly. I consider it the norm, with anyone who handles it better a better employer.

[CountDeMoney]

When on earth did I ever say that police and firefighter unions are good?

That's simply a common theme down here, s'all.