Walmart Workers Threaten to Strike on Black Friday

[crazy canuck]

Thats why you need sane employment standards legislation that companies cannot contract out of.

Nonsense, all Americans have the right to decide who to work for and where;  whether they can or not is not a concern.

Don't like working at Wal Mart?  Work elsewhere.  If you can't, that's not our problem, man.

Yeah, which of course brings me back to my original question.  Why do you people put up with this.

Even the Union haters should be behind this kind of minimum standards type legislation.  Make the legislative standard strong enough and employees have little need to unionize.

[CountDeMoney]

None as a company-wide holiday. However, I will be working unofficially on Saturday and Sunday to catch back up.

You should work on your time management skills.  Get a day planner or something.

[CountDeMoney]

Thats why you need sane employment standards legislation that companies cannot contract out of.

Nonsense, all Americans have the right to decide who to work for and where;  whether they can or not is not a concern.

Don't like working at Wal Mart?  Work elsewhere.  If you can't, that's not our problem, man.

Yeah, which of course brings me back to my original question.  Why do you people put up with this.

Even the Union haters should be behind this kind of minimum standards type legislation.  Make the legislative standard strong enough and employees have little need to unionize.

You just have no concept of freedom or liberty up there, do you?

[DontSayBanana]

Where are you guys drawing the line?  What a lot of you are forgetting (or ignoring) is that when there's a midnight opening, there are still going to be employees showing up to open the store on (technically) Thanksgiving.

That said, I am going to draw a line on this one and say that there should be a restriction.  Salary and exempt hourly managers can be scheduled at 11:30PM on Thanksgiving, everyone else should get until 12AM.

There are way too many people who are going to have to cut and run on Thanksgiving because of their jobs, and even corporate district and regional managers should understand shit like "undermining morale."

[crazy canuck]

Thats why you need sane employment standards legislation that companies cannot contract out of.

Nonsense, all Americans have the right to decide who to work for and where;  whether they can or not is not a concern.

Don't like working at Wal Mart?  Work elsewhere.  If you can't, that's not our problem, man.

Yeah, which of course brings me back to my original question.  Why do you people put up with this.

Even the Union haters should be behind this kind of minimum standards type legislation.  Make the legislative standard strong enough and employees have little need to unionize.

You just have no concept of freedom or liberty up there, do you?

[DGuller]

This comes back to my age of question about US politics - why do people affected by these kinds of draconian laws keep voting in the people that make them?

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[merithyn]

I think this is really a bunch of fluff and stuff. Maybe it's because I've worked for hospitals for a number of years, and for the service industry that doesn't shut down because of the holidays, but if that's what the job is, then that's what the job is. I work in insurance now, and I have to be at work on Friday at 8am just like any other work day. Not thrilled about it, but I'd rather have to work then have no job, so yeah, I'll do it. No point grumbling about it.

[CountDeMoney]

Where are you guys drawing the line?  What a lot of you are forgetting (or ignoring) is that when there's a midnight opening, there are still going to be employees showing up to open the store on (technically) Thanksgiving.

That said, I am going to draw a line on this one and say that there should be a restriction.  Salary and exempt hourly managers can be scheduled at 11:30PM on Thanksgiving, everyone else should get until 12AM.

There are way too many people who are going to have to cut and run on Thanksgiving because of their jobs, and even corporate district and regional managers should understand shit like "undermining morale."

"undermining morale" < "increasing shareholder value"

What's problem with undermining morale?  The proles don't like it, they can quit.  We'll simply get another prole.  GOD BLESS AMERICA

[crazy canuck]

I think this is really a bunch of fluff and stuff. Maybe it's because I've worked for hospitals for a number of years, and for the service industry that doesn't shut down because of the holidays, but if that's what the job is, then that's what the job is. I work in insurance now, and I have to be at work on Friday at 8am just like any other work day. Not thrilled about it, but I'd rather have to work then have no job, so yeah, I'll do it. No point grumbling about it.

I suppose I have my answer.

[CountDeMoney]

I think this is really a bunch of fluff and stuff. Maybe it's because I've worked for hospitals for a number of years, and for the service industry that doesn't shut down because of the holidays, but if that's what the job is, then that's what the job is. I work in insurance now, and I have to be at work on Friday at 8am just like any other work day. Not thrilled about it, but I'd rather have to work then have no job, so yeah, I'll do it. No point grumbling about it.

I suppose I have my answer.

Shitty employment is a privilege, not a right.

[Jacob]

I think this is really a bunch of fluff and stuff. Maybe it's because I've worked for hospitals for a number of years, and for the service industry that doesn't shut down because of the holidays, but if that's what the job is, then that's what the job is. I work in insurance now, and I have to be at work on Friday at 8am just like any other work day. Not thrilled about it, but I'd rather have to work then have no job, so yeah, I'll do it. No point grumbling about it.

I suppose I have my answer.

Yeah. Seems like it come down to two things, which Meri illustrates:

1) Internalizing the situation as a binary choice: having a job and putting up with shit vs having no job.
2) "If someone has to put up with it, everyone should have to put up with it."

[viper37]

I think this is really a bunch of fluff and stuff. Maybe it's because I've worked for hospitals for a number of years, and for the service industry that doesn't shut down because of the holidays, but if that's what the job is, then that's what the job is. I work in insurance now, and I have to be at work on Friday at 8am just like any other work day. Not thrilled about it, but I'd rather have to work then have no job, so yeah, I'll do it. No point grumbling about it.

do you get compensation as in double pay, or another day off the week after?

[Barrister]

Where are you guys drawing the line?  What a lot of you are forgetting (or ignoring) is that when there's a midnight opening, there are still going to be employees showing up to open the store on (technically) Thanksgiving.

That said, I am going to draw a line on this one and say that there should be a restriction.  Salary and exempt hourly managers can be scheduled at 11:30PM on Thanksgiving, everyone else should get until 12AM.

There are way too many people who are going to have to cut and run on Thanksgiving because of their jobs, and even corporate district and regional managers should understand shit like "undermining morale."

"undermining morale" < "increasing shareholder value"

What's problem with undermining morale?  The proles don't like it, they can quit.  We'll simply get another prole.  GOD BLESS AMERICA

Well that's the problem with having a shitty economy in the first place.

Here it can be hard to find another prole.

[garbon]

None as a company-wide holiday. However, I will be working unofficially on Saturday and Sunday to catch back up.

You should work on your time management skills.  Get a day planner or something.

I'm not complaining though. It's part of my job.

[derspiess]

This comes back to my age of question about US politics - why do people affected by these kinds of draconian laws keep voting in the people that make them?

Don't you think "draconian" is a bit of an overstatement?