Marines posed with flag resembling Nazi SS logo in Afghanistan

[garbon]

I stand ereceted.

Um, eww?

[Valmy]

I dont think anyone here said they used it to pay homage to the Waffen-SS.

Valmy did.

He did
I stand ereceted.

So what is your idea here?  Nobody would use the Fasces of the Italian Blackshirts (well besides Italian soccer fans) because they sucked.  They are using the symbol of the dudes who were badass for a reason: they want to look badass.  What else would it but a homage?

[Eddie Teach]

They may have chosen the symbols for the same reason the SS did rather than because the SS did.

[Valmy]

They may have chosen the symbols for the same reason the SS did rather than because the SS did.

Yeah right.

[Eddie Teach]

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. 

[Valmy]

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. 

I do as well.  I see where they are coming from.  I mean they are out in the field committing acts of violence and putting their lives in danger.  One of the way you deal with that is doing hardcore stuff that desensitizes people, which is why military people famously do stuff like curse alot.

But, you know, you have to keep this stuff from getting out.

[LaCroix]

my, this thread exploded while i went out and sold myself

I do not think anybody is claiming they literally have Nazi sympathies.

i know

I think the truth you just defined is not in the middle - it is exactly my position.

sorry, i was under the impression you were saying they coincidentally happened to pick the same symbol as the one used by the nazis, and that they might not have known its past host

Fallacy of Middle Ground.

err, your lack of comprehension has reared its ugly head. again. fallacy of middle ground demands that i imply that of two stances, the middle ground between them must be correct.. which i did not do. i stated my assumption of what transpired, and noted that it fell between what i perceived to be berkut and Everyone Else's differing thoughts. you are trying too hard; you should have displayed as much diligence two nights ago

Valmy did.

i thought so too.. however, now i'm not so sure if he meant homage when he said it. he misunderstood my point either way (see above)

Yeah, I don't understand why Berkut created this easy trap for himself.

he didn't create a trap for himself. raz and you aren't getting at what he's saying. obviously he knows about the swastika's literal history, but what he is saying is that it doesn't look like anything. it couldn't be used in a way, like the SS lightning bolts, that could mean something else. the SS lightning bolts look like the letter S. when placed side by side, they could mean scout-sniper

[Razgovory]

You are much more likable as lurker who doesn't post.

[LaCroix]

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. 

+1

sorry, valmy, you did mean homage after all, i guess

[LaCroix]

You are much more likable as lurker who doesn't post.

don't worry. only raz deserves the raz treatment. one's own medicine, etc. etc.

[Razgovory]

You are much more likable as lurker who doesn't post.

don't worry. only raz deserves the raz treatment. one's own medicine, etc. etc.

Yeah, you still are a more likable person as someone who isn't here.  What compels you lurk and then wade into defend stupid arguments or people?

[LaCroix]

impulse? who knows

[Valmy]

sorry, valmy, you did mean homage after all, i guess

Whenever I am able to communicate effectively I take it as a victory

[Razgovory]

That's much better.  Due to advances in Forum technology the best aspect of LaCroix's personality can be enjoyed with out the negative.

[LaCroix]

That's much better.  Due to advances in Forum technology the best aspect of LaCroix's personality can be enjoyed with out the negative.

at least now i won't have to deal with posts like "Fallacy of Middle Ground." baku has been seized