New X-COM game coming . . . and it's turn based strategy!

Started by Syt, January 05, 2012, 11:59:23 PM

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Tamas

I WILL NOT GIVE UP PLAYING ON IRONMAN! I WILL NOT!


NOT EVENT WHEN ON MY Xth RESTART MY 16-kills ÜBER HEAVY BITES THE DUST!

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Razgovory on October 13, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 13, 2012, 04:39:17 AM
as always with these kind of games it annoys me how the national governments aren't even bothering to fight back. Instead they're trying to cover up the whole thing. FFS, there's alien battleships (Neil is the alien warminister?) flying trough the air!

I assume that national governments are fighting back, just ineffectively.  If they ever make expansion packs or DLCs I'd like to see missions where National governments attempt to undermine you, by spying on you, stealing your stuff, secretly signing pacts with the Aliens and ambushing your soldiers... I'd also like to see mission where you can bring governments back to the council or assassinate human quislings.  More cloak and dagger stuff would fit the theme I think.

if you read the ticker in the sitrep room yuo get the distinct impression they're covering everything up. Even XCOM is a secret!

Syt

After having my new squads wiped out in missions 2 and 3 respectively in two new games I think I may play on normal instead of classic for a while. :blush:
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Razgovory

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 13, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 13, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 13, 2012, 04:39:17 AM
as always with these kind of games it annoys me how the national governments aren't even bothering to fight back. Instead they're trying to cover up the whole thing. FFS, there's alien battleships (Neil is the alien warminister?) flying trough the air!

I assume that national governments are fighting back, just ineffectively.  If they ever make expansion packs or DLCs I'd like to see missions where National governments attempt to undermine you, by spying on you, stealing your stuff, secretly signing pacts with the Aliens and ambushing your soldiers... I'd also like to see mission where you can bring governments back to the council or assassinate human quislings.  More cloak and dagger stuff would fit the theme I think.

if you read the ticker in the sitrep room yuo get the distinct impression they're covering everything up. Even XCOM is a secret!

Well, the ticker for me says that Russia is mobilizing tanks to fight the Alien incursion, so they are pretty shitty at covering things up.  X-com is a secret, but the alien attacks aren't.  I'm not sure why they bother to keep it a secret.  After the 3rd or 4th terror attack it's pretty clear that aliens are running around blowing shit up for some reason.

June has a been a rough month on X-com.  I've lost 3 guys.  An LT. and two Squaddies. Damn Mutons.  Taking 7 of them on at once is not easy.  So far I've lost 7 people, 4 in April, the cruelest month, and 3 in June.  I've got to get that psychic thingy up and running.
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Crazy_Ivan80

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Quote from: Razgovory on October 13, 2012, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 13, 2012, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 13, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on October 13, 2012, 04:39:17 AM
as always with these kind of games it annoys me how the national governments aren't even bothering to fight back. Instead they're trying to cover up the whole thing. FFS, there's alien battleships (Neil is the alien warminister?) flying trough the air!

I assume that national governments are fighting back, just ineffectively.  If they ever make expansion packs or DLCs I'd like to see missions where National governments attempt to undermine you, by spying on you, stealing your stuff, secretly signing pacts with the Aliens and ambushing your soldiers... I'd also like to see mission where you can bring governments back to the council or assassinate human quislings.  More cloak and dagger stuff would fit the theme I think.

if you read the ticker in the sitrep room yuo get the distinct impression they're covering everything up. Even XCOM is a secret!

Well, the ticker for me says that Russia is mobilizing tanks to fight the Alien incursion, so they are pretty shitty at covering things up.  X-com is a secret, but the alien attacks aren't.  I'm not sure why they bother to keep it a secret.  After the 3rd or 4th terror attack it's pretty clear that aliens are running around blowing shit up for some reason.

June has a been a rough month on X-com.  I've lost 3 guys.  An LT. and two Squaddies. Damn Mutons.  Taking 7 of them on at once is not easy.  So far I've lost 7 people, 4 in April, the cruelest month, and 3 in June.  I've got to get that psychic thingy up and running.

haven't seen that in the ticker yet. But then I've only had 1 terror attack so far. I'm still seeing that the government says that the attacks by 'aliens' are not done by aliens. If it indeed changes from denying to mobilising it's a nice touch. But one I'd like to see translated in troopers on the streets and jets in the air.

FunkMonk

After 20+ missions, I've lost my first man.

Cpt. Pancho Villa was a new recruit we picked up after a routine abudction mission in South America, a mission we chose because we needed men with his particular skillset. His training as a Support fighter was deemed useful and we needed a backup for Maj. Audrey Hepburn, the darling of the XCOM top brass who apparently needed extra time with her whenever she took time off to recuperate from battle wounds.

On this mission we touched down right next to a landed UFO. It was one of the larger ships, decked out with stasis tubes and a full complement of the alien empire's best soldiers. We crept up a hill to give our snipers vision on the open cargo bay, hoping for some easy kills before we stormed the ship. Col. Russ Feingold and Lt. Bruce Willis prodded up the middle, hid behind some trees, and spotted three Mutons lingering inside the ship for some unknown reason. Pancho Villa crept up on the right flank and took cover behind a log, hoping to throw a smoke grenade and get enfilading fire on the Mutons idling inside the ship. That's when the Berserker came. 

The Berserker was escorted by two Mutons on patrol on the periphery of the alien vessel. Our guys in overwatch finished one off before it could find cover: Cpt. Michael "Fucking" Ironside is an ace shot from 100 meters. But there was still the Berserker and one Muton left.

Immediately Senor Villa retreated to the other end of the fallen log behind which he had taken cover. He shot it point blank with his laser rifle but the damage was negligible. Bruce Willis took some potshots at the Berserker from his perch on a hill but the damage wasn't enough. It just enraged the beast more. Russ Feingold ran to help but could do little as his shots missed. Col. Sean Connery, the sniper on the right flank who Senor Villa was screening, had to retreat behind another tree and popped off a shot from his laser pistol. The laser burnt a hole into the alien beast but could not fell it.

Then the Berserker lumbered up to poor Pancho Villa and caved his face in. Miraculously, Senor Villa was still alive, though just barely. He was able to get to his feet again before the rest of his face melted off and his skull exploded by a ball of hot plasma, fired by the Berserker's Muton escort.

Our team, stung by this loss, rallied and avenged his death. The Berserkers, his Muton friend, and the rest of the Mutons and Sectoid Commanders in the ship were brutally annihilated. But nothing will return to us our dear friend, Senor Pancho Villa, Captain in the Support division. He lasted only one mission. We wished there had been many more.

Godspeed, Senor Pancho Villa. Of all the souls I have met in my battles, his was the most... Mexican. :cry:
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Crazy_Ivan80

has anyone notices how the base health of your initial squaddies is lower than the base health of new new recruits?

JonasSalk

I haven't purchased the game yet, so maybe this is answered...but if governments around the world know there's aliens trying to steal and murder people, why do they give you what amounts to pennies to save the human race? Why not spend billions on more R&D and so forth, rather than trusting this dinky little semi-secretive outfit and hope they don't all die? Why send tiny 6-man squads to fight the aliens, instead of, say...an entire planeload of paratroopers?
Yuman

Josquius

Quote from: FunkMonk on October 12, 2012, 11:34:48 PM
This game is wonderful and I can't stop playing it but damn it's buggy. My newly-built SHIV won't deploy for missions, animations hang up the game forcing a restart (thank god for auto save), soldiers shoot in the opposite direction of the target yet still get a critical hit, WTF.

It's a flawed masterpiece. :wub:
So wait for a future patch and get it at a knock down price?

Is it better than the original? -looked at now, not for the time and putting aside all nostalgic feelings.
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JonasSalk

You guys enjoy the extended beta testing. I'm going to wait 'til it's finished and $20.
Yuman

11B4V

I never really mind forking out dough for any just released game that interests me. I dont think this one wil intrest me. So, I'm on the fence.
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FunkMonk

Quote from: Tyr on October 13, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: FunkMonk on October 12, 2012, 11:34:48 PM
This game is wonderful and I can't stop playing it but damn it's buggy. My newly-built SHIV won't deploy for missions, animations hang up the game forcing a restart (thank god for auto save), soldiers shoot in the opposite direction of the target yet still get a critical hit, WTF.

It's a flawed masterpiece. :wub:
So wait for a future patch and get it at a knock down price?

Is it better than the original? -looked at now, not for the time and putting aside all nostalgic feelings.

It plays a lot easier than the original. It's a good remake and replicates the feelings you got playing the original. It's not "better" per se, but different and very good in its own right. I'd say it's equally as good.

On the subject of buying it, it's still a little buggy but very playable.  If you don't mind paying full price now for a faithful remake of a classic, go ahead. Otherwise get it for $40 or less.

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FunkMonk

Quote from: JonasSalk on October 13, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
I haven't purchased the game yet, so maybe this is answered...but if governments around the world know there's aliens trying to steal and murder people, why do they give you what amounts to pennies to save the human race? Why not spend billions on more R&D and so forth, rather than trusting this dinky little semi-secretive outfit and hope they don't all die? Why send tiny 6-man squads to fight the aliens, instead of, say...an entire planeload of paratroopers?

Uh, because it's a video game. :huh:
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JonasSalk

I demand more realism in my dark alien murderfantasies.
Yuman

The Brain

Meh. I already played X-COM. Maybe I'll look at this when it's $10.
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