New X-COM game coming . . . and it's turn based strategy!

Started by Syt, January 05, 2012, 11:59:23 PM

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Josquius

What does normal make easier?
Less of your guys dying?
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Kleves

Just beat it on normal/ironman. I had 6 Colonels in the final assault - 2 heavy, 2 support, 1 sniper, 1 assault. I lost 3 of them (1 heavy, and both supports). Apparently the fuckers die if they're mind controlled at the end; serves them right, the weak-minded fools. Two of my survivors had been with me the whole game. I'm glad they made it out. The end was fairly exciting: [spoiler]2 etherals and the boss etheral mind-controlled 3 of my soldiers - the ones who ended up dying. I didn't want to kill them (whoops), so I had my assault try and take out one of the mind-controllers, so that I could start to get them back. The fucker missed like a 90% shot, and I was down to two guys surrounded by 3 etherals, 3 mind-controlled teammates, and 1 elite muton. My sniper (a complete and total badass) knocked the boss down to 1 health, and then it was up to my heavy - the Argentine that survives the very first mission of the game. He pulled out his rocket launcher, fired across the map, and sent the the rocket right into the alien boss' face (incidently killing half the squad via psychic reverberations or some shit at the same time). Cool. [/spolier]
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Razgovory

I finally got that son of a bitch UFO.  He's down in South Africa.  I'm sending my A Team in to get the motherfuckers along with a big robot.  I also have a black guy named "Prophet" wearing power armor with super powers.  I think he might have walked into the wrong game...
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Octavian

Quote from: Razgovory on October 16, 2012, 04:01:36 AM
...I also have a black guy named "Prophet"... with super powers....

You should name him Obama :)
If you let someone handcuff you, and put a rope around your neck, don't act all surprised if they hang you!

- Eyal Yanilov.

Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him.

- Bruce Lee

Razgovory

I lost.  They all died. :(  I have to start over.  The Ethereal was a bitch, and the Sectapod wasn't much better.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grey Fox

I encountered my first mutons. Bastards hurt, killed Mery & Tricky Dick but then the game crashed & I couldn't resist the temptation of starting that mission over.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Razgovory

I may give the game a break.  Fire up Skyrim which I bought but haven't played yet.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Scipio

Heavys and Laser Snipers are a muton's best friend.
What I speak out of my mouth is the truth.  It burns like fire.
-Jose Canseco

There you go, giving a fuck when it ain't your turn to give a fuck.
-Every cop, The Wire

"It is always good to be known for one's Krapp."
-John Hurt

Josquius

I gave in.
It is very pretty and flashy. The base system is kind of simplified, I hate the satellite system and the way it only covers one country (stupid), but OK....It is really making it look likely I'm going to lose India and Canada though.

Snipers I find to be rather useless. Areas are too cluttered and you have to keep moving your guys forward.

One interesting difference to the original is the way combat areas are quite linear here. Straight forward dashes. In the original I remember a big challenge was having your landing craft in the middle and aliens possibly being all around you.
Its nice not to have to bother with debarkation, that was always a pain.
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Tamas

Snipers get the remote-spotting skill on their 2nd sniper-level meaning they can fire at stuff their teammates see, provided they have a LOS.
That skill makes them a great asset.

All classes are great in some situations in fact. Assaults can finish off a lone remaining enemy when its fully entrenched behind cover otherwise. Rockets of heavies are GREAT for killing off groups of enemies, or seriously weakening strong ones while destroying their cover.

Support gets to shine once they got the "use 3 medikits in a battle" skill.

Grey Fox

I lost another Assault. Never got one passed Squaddie so far.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Josquius

how do you get engineers?
I've gotten pretty far in the story but am doomed to lose a bunch of nations as aliens do stuff there without me being any the wiser due to being able to launch satellites.
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Grey Fox

A couple per months, as missions rewards and by building workshops IIRC.

I soon will lose ALL of Asia but that's ok. I've consolidated my network over Africa(base), Europe & NA.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Mr. Grey

Quote from: Tamas on October 17, 2012, 02:12:07 AM
Snipers get the remote-spotting skill on their 2nd sniper-level meaning they can fire at stuff their teammates see, provided they have a LOS.

Support gets to shine once they got the "use 3 medikits in a battle" skill.

Early on when I was struggling, I actually rolled with 3 snipers. The squad sight is amazing...especially since all the maps are setup for more or less moving straight forward. When snipers get double tap, along with squad sight, it makes snipers the most op class. I love defuse/escort missions because snipers can 1-shot thin men. My last bomb defuse had 5 thin men in front of me....after my two snipers took their turn...only 1 left!

I hate support class until they can use 3 medkits. I think the smoke grenade needs a buff.

Autokrator lives

Josquius

So its impossible to do the game without losing nations? I really hate this limited range satelite system. It just makes no sense that one satelite can cover the whole of Russia but you need a seperate one for every country in Europe.

I'm thinking of restarting, I lost Britain when I chose to save India on one of those horrible choices which seem to be the most common mission since it was already on 4 panic. Gah. I felt I was getting pretty far too, I know where the alien base is, just havent got enough engineers to build the key
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