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American Gun Ownership Highest In 18 Years

Started by jimmy olsen, October 27, 2011, 10:48:23 AM

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11B4V

Quote from: Viking on January 20, 2013, 03:40:10 AM
Whats the general response to the NRA ad about Obama's kids?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKLA3BODXr0

I'm not sure if this is, to paraphrase tallyrand, evil or worse, a mistake.

Wrong thread
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on January 20, 2013, 03:22:59 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 20, 2013, 01:50:48 AM


They want to have guns because they are a pretty damn cool toy.

Too me, these are absolute works of art.

That's a fine looking chair, man.

derspiess

Nice tiger-striping on that stock. Is it walnut?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

11B4V

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 12:08:17 PM
Nice tiger-striping on that stock. Is it walnut?

All walnut. The tiger strip stock is Turkish Walnut I believe.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Viking on January 20, 2013, 03:40:10 AM
Whats the general response to the NRA ad about Obama's kids?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKLA3BODXr0

I'm not sure if this is, to paraphrase tallyrand, evil or worse, a mistake.

To me this ad highlights the cognitive dissonance among gun control supporters.

On the one hand the NRA is purest evil and anything they say is anathema.  On the other hand beefing up security at schools is an idea worth considering.  At least that is my impression of the public mood.

I personally give the NRA a pass on the whole "hands off the president's family" issue.  The fact that the president's family has Secret Service protection is not exactly classified information and it's not an invasion of their private lives to discuss it.

derspiess

Quote from: Berkut on January 20, 2013, 01:50:48 AM
YOu know, when you see gun people going on about their guns (and I don't mean that in a dismissive manner - lord knows I can go on about the things I find interesting), it makes the entire gun control debate centered around the "individual right" and the 2nd Amerndment  seem so silly.

Very few of the people who care about owning guns care because they want to make sure they can overthrow the government if necessary, or even so they can defend themselves, or any other purely theoretical, practical reason to own a gun.

It sounds like you're saying owning guns can only be for one reason and not multiple reasons.

But why am I wasting my breath.  I don't need to prove to you some need to exercise my second amendment freedom, or my first amendment freedom, or other freedoms.  Hell, it's not as if you want to keep the second amendment in the first place.

QuoteThey want to have guns because they are a pretty damn cool toy.

A gun is not a toy.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

PDH

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:34:48 PM

A gun is not a toy.

Neither is a sports car.  But some people believe they are.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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-CdM

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

PDH

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:38:16 PM

Okay.

Just saying.  It would be a whole lot better if everyone who had either understood that.  It isn't gonna happen though.
I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

-------
"I'm pretty sure my level of depression has nothing to do with how much of a fucking asshole you are."

-CdM

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

CountDeMoney


derspiess

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Quote from: Neil on January 20, 2013, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
A gun is not a toy.
Toy.  Hobby.  Either way, it's a leisure time activity.

So is reading the paper, going to church, etc.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 20, 2013, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
A gun is not a toy.
Toy.  Hobby.  Either way, it's a leisure time activity.
So is reading the paper, going to church, and etc.
Going to church isn't about killing people, unless you're some kind of Aztec.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

derspiess

Quote from: Neil on January 20, 2013, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 20, 2013, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
A gun is not a toy.
Toy.  Hobby.  Either way, it's a leisure time activity.
So is reading the paper, going to church, and etc.
Going to church isn't about killing people, unless you're some kind of Aztec.

Hmm, I don't believe I've killed people in my 23 years as a gun owner.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Neil

Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
Hmm, I don't believe I've killed people in my 23 years as a gun owner.
Then you're not using your gun properly.  The whole point of a gun is to kill.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.