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Started by jimmy olsen, October 27, 2011, 10:48:23 AM

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derspiess

#705
January 20, 2013, 07:48:15 PM
The only chick I ever dated that liked guns was the furriner I ended up marrying. And she's more accurate with my Glock 17 than I am.
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derspiess

#706
January 20, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
The only chick I ever dated that liked guns was the furriner I ended up marrying. And she's more accurate with my Glock 17 than I am.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Ed Anger

#707
January 20, 2013, 07:50:49 PM
My wife doesn't even practice and she assrapes the paper targets. I take 3 months off, and I'm back to Italian army 1941 levels of marksmanship.

Pisses me off.
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11B4V

#708
January 20, 2013, 07:52:16 PM
lol



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MadImmortalMan

#709
January 20, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Mine too. And her sister. Some women are naturals.

Every girl I've ever dated has been nervous about guns but totally turned on once they start firing. The shooting range is the absolute best date idea.
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11B4V

#710
January 20, 2013, 08:25:56 PM
I got to dust off the scattergun and bust some Ditch Chickens this year.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

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"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Berkut

#711
January 21, 2013, 12:58:45 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 20, 2013, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: Berkut on January 20, 2013, 01:50:48 AM
YOu know, when you see gun people going on about their guns (and I don't mean that in a dismissive manner - lord knows I can go on about the things I find interesting), it makes the entire gun control debate centered around the "individual right" and the 2nd Amerndment  seem so silly.

Very few of the people who care about owning guns care because they want to make sure they can overthrow the government if necessary, or even so they can defend themselves, or any other purely theoretical, practical reason to own a gun.

It sounds like you're saying owning guns can only be for one reason and not multiple reasons.

Not at all - I am saying that the reason most people who are passionate defenders of the individual right to bear arms are motivated to do so is based not on any desire to protect themselves from tyranny or even to protect their family, but simply because guns are a cool toy.

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But why am I wasting my breath.  I don't need to prove to you some need to exercise my second amendment freedom,

You don't need to prove anything to anyone. I will note, however, that the Second Amendment having anything to do with an individual right to bear arms is a figment of the supreme court. But that is neither here nor there.

My point is simply this: You don't really care about the Second Amendment per se (insofar as it exists for an actual purpose beyond the words it embodies)- you care about having the right to collect guns, because you like them.
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or my first amendment freedom, or other freedoms.

Well, I submit that there is a fundamental difference between the "right to own guns" 'freedom' and other freedoms. Namely - that the right to own guns in the manner the NRA and gun afficionados purport is neither necessary or conducive to a free state, and therefore isn't a fundamnetal right at all, but simply a figment of a particular historical precedent.

I imagine if the Brits had tried to collect everyone's horses instead of the militia's guns at Concord and Lexington, we would all be arguing about the right to go zero to sixty in 3.5 seconds without interference in your basic right to keep and own transportation by the State.

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  Hell, it's not as if you want to keep the second amendment in the first place.

True enough.
QuoteThey want to have guns because they are a pretty damn cool toy.

A gun is not a toy.
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Of course it is, in the same way some people collect cars as toys. Or thoroughbred horses. Or any other do-dad.
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Berkut

#712
January 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Speaking of guns, I still have the Raven .25 sitting in my safe upstairs. Still have no idea what I should do with it...
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11B4V

#713
January 21, 2013, 02:24:26 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Speaking of guns, I still have the Raven .25 sitting in my safe upstairs. Still have no idea what I should do with it...

One of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5lJXlNtpdo

Shoot it.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

#714
January 21, 2013, 02:27:05 AM
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

MadImmortalMan

#715
January 21, 2013, 03:47:03 AM
It's good for teaching kids how to shoot.
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"We have nothing to fear but lack of fear itself." --Larry Summers

Razgovory

#716
January 21, 2013, 04:01:43 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 21, 2013, 02:24:26 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Speaking of guns, I still have the Raven .25 sitting in my safe upstairs. Still have no idea what I should do with it...

One of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5lJXlNtpdo

Shoot it.

There are guns big enough to shoot out other, smaller guns?  Cool!
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derspiess

#717
January 21, 2013, 10:17:10 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Speaking of guns, I still have the Raven .25 sitting in my safe upstairs. Still have no idea what I should do with it...

Save it for a local gun buyback.
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Ed Anger

#718
January 21, 2013, 10:20:17 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 21, 2013, 02:24:26 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Speaking of guns, I still have the Raven .25 sitting in my safe upstairs. Still have no idea what I should do with it...

One of these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5lJXlNtpdo

Shoot it.

"Predawndeath" needs to wash his hands. Yuk.
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CountDeMoney

#719
January 21, 2013, 10:32:30 AM
Quote from: Berkut on January 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
Speaking of guns, I still have the Raven .25 sitting in my safe upstairs. Still have no idea what I should do with it...

Keep it.  They're too young yet, but you should teach your kids how to properly handle a gun.  Not to fire it, mind you, but how to make sure one is empty, how to properly hand it to somebody, etc.

You never know when they'll come across one out in the real world (or heaven forbid, a friend's house) when you're not around.  But there's nothing wrong with safety first.
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