Troy Davis execution

[Martinus]

Only the shallow do not judge by appearance.

[Martinus]

Last words of Troy Davis, spoken to the AI representatives:

"The struggle for justice doesn't end with me. This struggle is for all the Troy Davises who came before me and all the ones who will come after me. I'm in good spirits and I'm prayerful and at peace."

[11B4V]

Only the shallow do not judge by appearance.

Oh, shallow. I thought you wrote swallow.

[Martinus]

Only the shallow do not judge by appearance.

Oh, shallow. I thought you wrote swallow.

???

[11B4V]

Last words of Troy Davis, spoken to the AI representatives:

"The struggle for justice doesn't end with me. This struggle is for all the Troy Davises who came before me and all the ones who will come after me. I'm in good spirits and I'm prayerful and at peace."

Amazing how they always find GOD in the end.

[jimmy olsen]

Well, you can sorta fix a wrongful jail sentence.  You can let him go and hope bygones will be bygones.  If you execute him, there's less chance of that.

You can't take back years or decades of someone's life.  Making the puishment partially reversible isn't really a compelling fix to the wrongful conviction problem.

Again, you must realize this argument is bullshit - otherwise you would have no job as insurance would be useless. We compensate financially for various wrongs or harms done to people all the time. Why should this be different? The only case when someone cannot be compensated for a harm done to him, obviously, is when that person is dead.

Are people usually compensated for this? It seems very rare to me.

[Octavian]

Troy Anthony Davis, 10/9/1968 -- 11:08pm EST, 9/21/2011. 

Cause of death: homicide.

Age: 27
Military veteran



Cause of Death: Murdered by Troy Davis

He looks mildly retarded. Perhaps it was euthanasia.

Besides, with this hairdo and stache, he should have been executed for the crimes against style.

Edit: Sorry, just saw he was a military veteran. So yes, he actually was at least mildly retarded.

Blame and demonize the vic. Typical Euro. Nice attempt at a troll..fag.

Martinus is not the official spokesman for Europe.

[11B4V]

Troy Anthony Davis, 10/9/1968 -- 11:08pm EST, 9/21/2011. 

Cause of death: homicide.

Age: 27
Military veteran



Cause of Death: Murdered by Troy Davis

He looks mildly retarded. Perhaps it was euthanasia.

Besides, with this hairdo and stache, he should have been executed for the crimes against style.

Edit: Sorry, just saw he was a military veteran. So yes, he actually was at least mildly retarded.

Blame and demonize the vic. Typical Euro. Nice attempt at a troll..fag.

Martinus is not the official spokesman for Europe.

My apologies. But I did state Euro (singular) as apposed to Euros (plural).

[Octavian]

Troy Anthony Davis, 10/9/1968 -- 11:08pm EST, 9/21/2011. 

Cause of death: homicide.

Age: 27
Military veteran



Cause of Death: Murdered by Troy Davis

He looks mildly retarded. Perhaps it was euthanasia.

Besides, with this hairdo and stache, he should have been executed for the crimes against style.

Edit: Sorry, just saw he was a military veteran. So yes, he actually was at least mildly retarded.

Blame and demonize the vic. Typical Euro. Nice attempt at a troll..fag.

Martinus is not the official spokesman for Europe.

My apologies. But I did state Euro (singular) as apposed to Euros (plural).

Ah I didn't see that. Well then I apologize for accusing you of elevating Martinus to a position he most certainly does not deserve nor have.

[Ideologue]

Yeah, Martinus isn't a European, he's an Eastern European.  It's like how when you say "American," you don't mean "Mexican."

[11B4V]

Yeah, Martinus isn't a European, he's an Eastern European.  It's like how when you say "American," you don't mean "Mexican."

Point taken for the future.

Eastern Europens to West Europeans are what Mexicans are to Americans.

Poles=Mexicans.

[Martinus]

Well, you can sorta fix a wrongful jail sentence.  You can let him go and hope bygones will be bygones.  If you execute him, there's less chance of that.

You can't take back years or decades of someone's life.  Making the puishment partially reversible isn't really a compelling fix to the wrongful conviction problem.

Again, you must realize this argument is bullshit - otherwise you would have no job as insurance would be useless. We compensate financially for various wrongs or harms done to people all the time. Why should this be different? The only case when someone cannot be compensated for a harm done to him, obviously, is when that person is dead.

Are people usually compensated for this? It seems very rare to me.

At least in Europe, compensation for wrongful conviction is de rigeur. People even get compensated for pre-trial arrest if they are subsequently found not guilty, if the arrest is proven to be unnecessary or too long. There is extensive caselaw of ECHR on this.

Another area where European societies are freer when it comes to wrongful actions of their governments than is the case in the US.

[The Brain]

and seven of nine have recanted.

1. It's "has".

2.

[Martinus]

Yeah, Martinus isn't a European, he's an Eastern European.  It's like how when you say "American," you don't mean "Mexican."

How nicely racist of you. It's funny how you consider yourself a leftist. You just want the government to take money away from the rich and give it to you. That's not leftism. That's being a jealous failure.

[Ideologue]

Yeah, Martinus isn't a European, he's an Eastern European.  It's like how when you say "American," you don't mean "Mexican."

How nicely racist of you. It's funny how you consider yourself a leftist. You just want the government to take money away from the rich and give it to you. That's not leftism. That's being a jealous failure.

No more "racist" than calling the United States barbaric.  Oh, right, when you're blithely anti-American, you're just sticking up for principles, but when you talk a little shit in return about Jew-murdering, Nazi-loving Eastern Euros who other than the Czechs and Slovaks never even had a functioning democracy until the Goddamned  1990s, you're a bigot.

Of course, not "racist" by any normal, fluent definition of the term--I didn't say shit about Slavs.  "Eastern European" is not a race, you knob.  It's a geopolitical unit defined by domination by the USSR and/or communism, and often marked by the enthusiastic support of totalitarianism of any stripe.  Get with the pogrom.