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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Jacob

So BB, that's a write in vote for you? :)

Jacob

BTW, does anyone have links to good blogs and analysis for this election?

PRC

I'm in Stephen Harper's riding, he will likely get my vote though i'm open to changing that.

Grey Fox

I'm unsure who to vote for.

My (new) riding has been Liberal for decades & there is fat chance of that changing any time soon.

I've voted BQ in all previous Federal elections since I was 18. I don't think this year it'll change.
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citizen k

QuoteOpposition brings down Canadian government
By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press

TORONTO – Canadian opposition parties brought down the Conservative government in a no confidence vote Friday, triggering an election that polls show the Conservatives will win.

The opposition parties held Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government in contempt of Parliament in a 156-145 vote for failing to disclose the full financial details of his tougher crime legislation, corporate tax cuts and plans to purchase stealth fighter jets.

Opinion polls expect Harper's Conservative Party to win re-election but not a majority, meaning he likely will continue to govern with a minority in Parliament, dependent on opposition votes to stay afloat.

The opposition parties combined hold the majority of the seats in Parliament with 160, while the Conservatives have 143.

But in the latest twist, there is a chance the left-of-center parties might join forces in a coalition if Harper wins another minority government on the expected election date of May 2.

On Saturday, Harper will formally inform Governor General David Johnston, Queen Elizabeth's representative as Canada's head of state, that he has lost a confidence vote and Canada's fourth campaign in the last seven years will officially start.

"The vote today, which obviously disappoints, will I suspect disappoint most Canadians," Harper said.

Harper might be gambling that an election now will confound conventional wisdom and hand him the majority in Parliament that has eluded him through his five-year tenure as prime minister. He is counting on the economy to help him win re-election.

Canada has outperformed other major industrialized democracies through the financial crisis, recovering almost all jobs lost during the recession while its banking sector remains intact. It avoided a property crash, and most economists expect 2010 growth to come in at 3 percent.

"By forcing an unnecessary election in this time of fragile economic recovery, Michael Ignatieff and his coalition partners are irresponsibly and recklessly putting at risk Canadians' jobs, our economy and stable government," Harper said.

The opposition tried to form a coalition before, after Harper won minority re-election in 2008. But before he could be defeated in a no confidence vote, Harper shut down Parliament for three months and successfully whipped up public opposition against the coalition. The Conservatives accused the Liberals of treason for uniting with the Bloc Quebecois, a party that seeks independence for Canada's French-speaking province of Quebec.

Harper's government is now once again trying to marshal public sentiment against a possible coalition government. His underlings attacked the opposition Thursday with accusations they will try to form a coalition if another minority Conservative is the result of the election.

The Conservatives noted that Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff didn't rule out forming a coalition government with the other opposition parties when he was asked about it on Wednesday. Ignatieff continued to dodge the question on Friday.

Opposition New Democrat leader Jack Layton added fuel to the fire Wednesday, saying he would not rule out forming a coalition with Ignatieff.

An election would offer the first opportunity to witness a faceoff between Harper and Ignatieff since Ignatieff took over the Liberal Party in December 2008.

Ignatieff, 63, is one of Canada's leading intellectuals: an author, historian and TV panel regular in Britain before going into politics.

Harper, 51, is a career politician who has spent the last five years emphasizing a more conservative Canadian identity and moving Canada incrementally to the right. He has gradually lowered sales and corporate taxes, increased spending on the military and made Arctic sovereignty a priority.

He has called Canada an emerging "energy super power" in reference to Alberta's oil sands deposits, the second largest oil reserves in the world, and has avoided enacting environmental legislation that would hurt the sector.

In foreign policy, he's extended Canada's role in Afghanistan and he's been a staunch ally of Israel's right wing government.

While the Conservatives will try to scare Canadians with coalition talk, the opposition will try to keep the focus on the government's recent ethic issues.

The Liberals were originally going to bring down the government over corporate tax cuts and spending billions in new fighter jets, but recent ethical issues helped them make inroads in furthering the image of Harper as an autocrat who shuts Parliament when it suits him.

Last week, Harper asked police to look into the activities of Bruce Carson, a key former aide. Carson, 66, is accused of using the access he had to senior members of the government to lobby on behalf of a company affiliated with his 22-year-old fiancee, a former escort.

The opposition parties were also united against Harper's latest budget plan, but they wanted to defeat the government over allegations it is in contempt of Parliament.

"There are only two alternatives here. More of this disrespect for democracy, more of this contempt for the Canadian people, or a compassionate, responsible Liberal government," Ignatieff said.

Harper is a center-right prime minister in a traditionally liberal country, and his plan to cut corporate tax rates has given the opposition, led by the left-leaning Liberals, an opening to argue that Canada is running a record deficit that will only worsen if taxes are cut.

Opposition parties also are hammering the prime minister for planning to spend at least $16 billion on 65 American-made F-35 Joint Strike Fighters — one of the biggest military purchases in Canadian history.


katmai

I'd vote for whomever pisses off Beeb and Neil most.
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Gaius Marius

Quote from: viper37 on March 23, 2011, 02:01:40 PM
This is were you are absolutely and totally wrong.
Canada would be in economic ruin.  The mostly unnecessary stimulus plan would have been much worst had it been made by Dion.  Frankly, do you see yourself paying 2,50$/lt because of some stupid carbon tax?   Do you see the consequences of having a tenfold deficit without the economic growth slowed by heavy taxation?
I can see this, and I don't like it.

The mayors who were on the CBC coverage today seemed to suggest they'd have welcomed an extension of some stimulus, as it was enabling them to get extra funds to deal with years of infrastructure renewal deficits.
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Josephus

Quote from: katmai on March 26, 2011, 01:50:50 AM
I'd vote for whomever pisses off Beeb and Neil most.

That's pretty much what I do.  ;)
Civis Romanus Sum<br /><br />"My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world." Jack Layton 1950-2011

Ed Anger

I caught a bit of the CBC's coverage on CSPAN during my TV flippin' time. Evan Solomon is still a giant bag of douches.
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Neil

I'm almost certain to vote for the Tory.  The Liberal candidate doesn't have much of a chance to win my vote, unless the Conservatives do something insane.  The NDP incumbent is NDP and a bit of a jerk, so that's a double whammy.  I don't think of the Greens as a real party.
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Admiral Yi

Anyone got a pic of the 22 year old escort at the center of this firestorm? :)

viper37

Quote from: Gaius Marius on March 26, 2011, 02:51:36 AM
The mayors who were on the CBC coverage today seemed to suggest they'd have welcomed an extension of some stimulus, as it was enabling them to get extra funds to deal with years of infrastructure renewal deficits.
We're already out of the recession and they barely spent any money.

If cities need more money for the infrastructure their citizens will use, why not raise their taxes or cut their spending so they can afford it?
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garbon

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 26, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
Anyone got a pic of the 22 year old escort at the center of this firestorm? :)

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Grallon

Haven't voted in the last several elections (Quebec or Canada) and don't intend to this time again.  Anyway I'm in Duceppe's riding so he's a shoe-in.




G.
"Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself."

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Palisadoes

In such a time Canada needs stable government, and the only part which seems to be able to provide this is the Conservatives.