TV/Movies Megathread

[CountDeMoney]

Murrow's insufferably pompous

[katmai]

Seconded!

[Savonarola]

I watched the first season of "Adventure Time."  It's weird and wonderful.   

I read that in the third season there was an implied relationship between Princess Bubblegum and Marceline the Vampire Queen.  That sounded like fan-fiction run amok.

[frunk]

I was speaking to the specific Friends paradigm, and the works that spawned directly from it.  Let's not bring previous generations of male-dominated television writing into this, as that is a different dynamic.

It seems like a continuation of the previous dynamic.  Less than attractive guys can get attractive women.  How did the dynamic change?

[CountDeMoney]

I was speaking to the specific Friends paradigm, and the works that spawned directly from it.  Let's not bring previous generations of male-dominated television writing into this, as that is a different dynamic.

It seems like a continuation of the previous dynamic.  Less than attractive guys can get attractive women.  How did the dynamic change?

Female empowerment in the post Roe v Wade world versus male-dominated Don Draper expectations. 

[dps]

The more I think about it, I can't think of any lead actress on a sitcom who wasn't attractive.

Well, besides Roseanne.

Lucille Ball.

Lucy certainly wasn't hot, but I wouldn't call her unattractive.  Roseanne Barr, though, definately was unattractive.

Drawing a complete blank on Newhart's hos.

Susan Pleshette from the 70s series, Mary Frann from the 80s series. 

[CountDeMoney]

Lucille Ball.

Lucy certainly wasn't hot, but I wouldn't call her unattractive. 

Actually, she was quite the starlet in her younger years.  I Love Lucy arrived when she didn't have too much tread on the tires left, but back in her earlier career, she was considered a sexpot.

[dps]

Lucille Ball.

Lucy certainly wasn't hot, but I wouldn't call her unattractive. 

Actually, she was quite the starlet in her younger years.  I Love Lucy arrived when she didn't have too much tread on the tires left, but back in her earlier career, she was considered a sexpot.

Yeah, I was aware of that (though I've not actually seen pics that demonstrate it) but I was talking about her TV days.

[Eddie Teach]

Modern Family - hot chick with expensive tastes marrying rich old dude? That never happens.
I Dream of Jeannie- Dude's an astronaut ffs. Also, she is contractually obligated.
Many of these other suggestions involve housewives who are very well provided for...

[dps]

Many of these other suggestions involve housewives who are very well provided for...

Yeah, I think that was what CdM was getting at when he talked about "male-dominated" TV writing.  Those older shows were set in a time when women were expected to get married and become full-time homemakers, plus almost all of them featured families that were at least comfortably well-off financially.

[CountDeMoney]

Yeah, I think that was what CdM was getting at when he talked about "male-dominated" TV writing.  Those older shows were set in a time when women were expected to get married and become full-time homemakers, plus almost all of them featured families that were at least comfortably well-off financially.

Exactly.  Hot chicks got married to average men with well-paying jobs because Mother and society told them to.

[dps]

Yeah, I think that was what CdM was getting at when he talked about "male-dominated" TV writing.  Those older shows were set in a time when women were expected to get married and become full-time homemakers, plus almost all of them featured families that were at least comfortably well-off financially.

Exactly.  Hot chicks got married to average men with well-paying jobs because Mother and society told them to.

I'm not sure that's really changed.  Women are still judged largely on their looks, and men are still judged largely on their financial status.  That's why you don't see many TV wives that look like Roseanne, or many TV husbands who flip burgers for a living.  I'm not saying that it's right, just that that's how it is.  The difference is that now, the wife IRL gets to flip burgers for a living, too.

[Eddie Teach]

Exactly.  Hot chicks got married to average men with well-paying jobs because Mother and society told them to.

Biology does too, at least at the conscious level. (And even at the subconscious level, while not exactly pretty, these men are much larger and stronger than their mates).

[frunk]

Female empowerment in the post Roe v Wade world versus male-dominated Don Draper expectations.

So you were expecting things to change, and they didn't?

[lustindarkness]

There seems to be a good modern day western I have missed or it was not as good as it seems and I don't remember it. I'll have to watch it.

Unforgiven (1992), Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105695/

Deficiency corrected, finally made the time to watch it. Excellent movie, just excellent.