The Third Languish Sunday EU3 MP Game Thread

[Agelastus]

I've been meaning to ask. If a game needs a counter to Austria and France to restrain their expansion, why does nobody want to play Burgundy in a start pre-1477?

[JonasSalk]

I've been meaning to ask. If a game needs a counter to Austria and France to restrain their expansion, why does nobody want to play Burgundy in a start pre-1477?

My guess is "lol let's partition Burgundy."

[DGuller]

I've been meaning to ask. If a game needs a counter to Austria and France to restrain their expansion, why does nobody want to play Burgundy in a start pre-1477?

Probably bias towards the way actual history played out (which didn't turn out well for Burgundy, obviously).

[Habbaku]

The problem with having a Burgundy is that, to properly expand, they're going to have to go in one direction or the other.  They simply share too many similar-culture provinces with their largest neighbors to remain extant without squishing France (best case) or a lot of the German minors (worst case) in the process.  Of course, Burgundy is an interesting country to play as they definitely have a chance at perpetually being elected Emperor.

I'd be tempted to take them up if not for my strong desire to play Brandenburg-Prussia this time around.

[Habbaku]

I actually think we look at a game like this too rationally. What we need is a little irrational roleplaying. Like the Brits trying to stay on the Continent, or squabbles over religion.

I couldn't imagine playing any other way as England/Britain; which of course is why I only play against AI and not human opponents. I do, however, read these Languish game threads with enormous pleasure. Please keep up the good work.

I actually don't understand the reticence of no risk-taking amongst the players that take on England.  If anyone's more insulated from their fuck-ups in foreign policy than the other countries, it's Britain.

[DGuller]

I actually don't understand the reticence of no risk-taking amongst the players that take on England.  If anyone's more insulated from their fuck-ups in foreign policy than the other countries, it's Britain.

I'm not sure I agree.  Britain is one naval disaster away from being up shit creek without a paddle, especially further on in the game.  They have plenty of territories to defend, and no manpower to spare.  Colonial powers are brittle, and absolutely need to have their foreign diplomacy in order to avoid a costly setback.

[Berkut]

The manpower thing is a killer. They just run out of troops, immediately.

[Habbaku]

I actually don't understand the reticence of no risk-taking amongst the players that take on England.  If anyone's more insulated from their fuck-ups in foreign policy than the other countries, it's Britain.

I'm not sure I agree.  Britain is one naval disaster away from being up shit creek without a paddle, especially further on in the game.  They have plenty of territories to defend, and no manpower to spare.  Colonial powers are brittle, and absolutely need to have their foreign diplomacy in order to avoid a costly setback.

Naval disaster against whom?  Spain?  They're the only power that can threaten Britain point-for-point at sea and even then wouldn't be able to do so if the British assure themselves of better naval leadership through use of Seahawks and Naval College (Admiralty?  Whatever the +1 tradition/year is called).

[Habbaku]

The manpower thing is a killer. They just run out of troops, immediately.

Building regimental camps and taking National Conscripts would help them a lot in that sphere.

[DGuller]

Naval disaster against whom?  Spain?  They're the only power that can threaten Britain point-for-point at sea and even then wouldn't be able to do so if the British assure themselves of better naval leadership through use of Seahawks and Naval College (Admiralty?  Whatever the +1 tradition/year is called).

It's not very likely, but it's possible.  It gets more likely if British are fighting two naval powers at once.  However, if it does happen, it's an unmitigated disaster.

[DGuller]

Are we playing tomorrow?  If so, what's the start time?

[Kleves]

Yes. 7:30 Pacific.

[katmai]

I can only play till about 2:30 / 3:00 edt

[Alcibiades]

I don't like much of any house rules.  Let people play games the way they want to play them, IMO.

[Habbaku]

I don't like much of any house rules.  Let people play games the way they want to play them, IMO.

Fund Patriots is now legal, then?