Congressman to Obama: Push immigration or I’ll tell Latino voters to stay home

[jimmy olsen]

Oh noes! Save us from all these violent Mexicans!

http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/22/how-immigration-crackdowns-bac

The state has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants. But contrary to myth, they have not brought an epidemic of murder and mayhem with them. Surprise of surprises, the state has gotten safer.

Over the last decade, the violent crime rate has dropped by 19 percent, while property crime is down by 20 percent. Crime has also declined in the rest of the country, but not as fast as in Arizona.

Babeu's claim about police killings came as news to me. When I called his office to get a list of victims, I learned there has been only one since the beginning of 2008—deeply regrettable, but not exactly a trend.

Truth is, illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native Americans. Most come here to work, and in their desire to stay, they are generally afraid to do anything that might draw the attention of armed people wearing badges.

El Paso, Texas, is next door to the exceptionally violent Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, and easily accessible to illegal entry. Yet it is one of the safest cities in the United States.

In 2007, scholars Ruben Rumbaut and Walter Ewing investigated the issue for the Immigration Policy Center and concluded that "if immigrants suddenly disappeared and the country became immigrant-free (and illegal-immigrant free), crime rates would likely increase."

[Eddie Teach]

The cartels keep their fighting on the south side of the border. Mexican police are cheaper to bribe.

[Fate]

By definition an illegal immigrant that is Mexican is a criminal.

[Jaron]

I think people are overreacting to this law somewhat. 

[garbon]

Woohoo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/26/BARD1D55P7.DTL

San Francisco's supervisors are calling for a sweeping boycott of Arizona in the wake of that state's harsh new rules aimed at illegal immigrants.

A resolution that will go before the board Tuesday will call for San Francisco to end any and all contracts with Arizona-based companies and to stop doing business with the state.

[Jaron]

Someone should make a variant of that smiley waving a mexican flag to piss off derspiess

[grumbler]

Woohoo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/26/BARD1D55P7.DTL

San Francisco's supervisors are calling for a sweeping boycott of Arizona in the wake of that state's harsh new rules aimed at illegal immigrants.

A resolution that will go before the board Tuesday will call for San Francisco to end any and all contracts with Arizona-based companies and to stop doing business with the state.

  Why doesn't the city refuse to end all contracts with US companies, since Arizona is simply applying existing US law on the state level?

My guess, though, is that this silly act by SF will please the people of Arizona immensely and harm them not at all.

[derspiess]

Oh noes! Save us from all these violent Mexicans!

http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/22/how-immigration-crackdowns-bac

The state has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants. But contrary to myth, they have not brought an epidemic of murder and mayhem with them. Surprise of surprises, the state has gotten safer.

Over the last decade, the violent crime rate has dropped by 19 percent, while property crime is down by 20 percent. Crime has also declined in the rest of the country, but not as fast as in Arizona.

Babeu's claim about police killings came as news to me. When I called his office to get a list of victims, I learned there has been only one since the beginning of 2008—deeply regrettable, but not exactly a trend.

Truth is, illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native Americans. Most come here to work, and in their desire to stay, they are generally afraid to do anything that might draw the attention of armed people wearing badges.

El Paso, Texas, is next door to the exceptionally violent Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, and easily accessible to illegal entry. Yet it is one of the safest cities in the United States.

In 2007, scholars Ruben Rumbaut and Walter Ewing investigated the issue for the Immigration Policy Center and concluded that "if immigrants suddenly disappeared and the country became immigrant-free (and illegal-immigrant free), crime rates would likely increase."

Reason magazine favors completely open borders (as do most libertarians, sadly).  No shock that they'd make this claim.

[Faeelin]

Reason magazine favors completely open borders (as do most libertarians, sadly).  No shock that they'd make this claim.

So do you think the statistics are wrong?

[KRonn]

Woohoo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/26/BARD1D55P7.DTL

San Francisco's supervisors are calling for a sweeping boycott of Arizona in the wake of that state's harsh new rules aimed at illegal immigrants.

A resolution that will go before the board Tuesday will call for San Francisco to end any and all contracts with Arizona-based companies and to stop doing business with the state.

Wasn't SF in some trouble, or still is, with the Feds for its open door policy on  illegals, problem being mainly for sheltering those who committed crimes? Something like that anyway.

[garbon]

Wasn't SF in some trouble, or still is, with the Feds for its open door policy on  illegals, problem being mainly for sheltering those who committed crimes? Something like that anyway.

I don't know if the Feds got mad, but the rest of California did when we started busing illegals who had committed crimes to other cities...where they committed new crimes.

[Fate]

Woohoo!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/04/26/BARD1D55P7.DTL

San Francisco's supervisors are calling for a sweeping boycott of Arizona in the wake of that state's harsh new rules aimed at illegal immigrants.

A resolution that will go before the board Tuesday will call for San Francisco to end any and all contracts with Arizona-based companies and to stop doing business with the state.

  Why doesn't the city refuse to end all contracts with US companies, since Arizona is simply applying existing US law on the state level?

My guess, though, is that this silly act by SF will please the people of Arizona immensely and harm them not at all.

Under existing US law you question beaners and subsequently arrest them if they can't prove their legal status under "reasonable suspicion?"

Do you really think such a law, if enforced, will survive 4th or 14th Amendment challenges?

[garbon]

So what is the point of Fate? It seems a lot of effort to keep up a not clever, see-through charade.

[Jaron]

Fate is an AI designed to replace me after I gave up on trolling.

[Fate]

So what is the point of Fate? It seems a lot of effort to keep up a not clever, see-through charade.

There are plenty of GOPtards who oppose the AZ law on constitutional grounds.