Congressman to Obama: Push immigration or I’ll tell Latino voters to stay home

[Eddie Teach]

I don't recall giving garbon permission to use scrolling text. 

p.s. Paradox is lame. I'm assuming it's that, unless Faeelin is a secret anime fan.

[jimmy olsen]

I don't recall giving garbon permission to use scrolling text. 

p.s. Paradox is lame. I'm assuming it's that, unless Faeelin is a secret anime fan.

No and no, though I'm sure many here would have a low opinion of it, though supposedly Neil is also a member there and his opinion is of course all that matters.

[Darth Wagtaros]

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"You went from a humanizing definition of the community to a criminalizing definition of the community," Gutierrez said."

But they are criminals. 

[Grey Fox]

I don't recall giving garbon permission to use scrolling text. 

p.s. Paradox is lame. I'm assuming it's that, unless Faeelin is a secret anime fan.

No and no, though I'm sure many here would have a low opinion of it, though supposedly Neil is also a member there and his opinion is of course all that matters.

What is said forum?

[KRonn]

Immigration debate and policy. Finally, a more peaceful and quiet issue for Congress and the nation to debate, to take on, after the furor over health care.   

[jimmy olsen]

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"You went from a humanizing definition of the community to a criminalizing definition of the community," Gutierrez said."

But they are criminals.

If you believe a law is unjust, do you call those who break it criminals or victims?

[Alcibiades]

Send them them all home....back to Mexico. 

[Fate]

Send them them all home....back to Mexico. 

Mexicans have more of a historical right to live in the Southwest than crackers like you. 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

people who don't vote are by default in agreement with whatever course taken.

not really

yes really. Staying silent is agreeing with what happens.

[Barrister]

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"You went from a humanizing definition of the community to a criminalizing definition of the community," Gutierrez said."

But they are criminals.

If you believe a law is unjust, do you call those who break it criminals or victims?

[garbon]

yes really. Staying silent is agreeing with what happens.

Nope.

[derspiess]

Wow, what a whiny bitch.  I hope Gutierrez gets more press coverage, as it will set the "comprehensive immigration reform" movement back quite a bit.  And while I'm sure Obama would love to grant blanket amnesty to all the illegals, he obviously needs to try to conserve whatever political capital he has left at the moment.  I'd love to see him turn his back on shitheads like Gutierrez, La Raza, etc. even if only out of necessity.

[Admiral Yi]

Wow, what a whiny bitch.  I hope Gutierrez gets more press coverage, as it will set the "comprehensive immigration reform" movement back quite a bit.  And while I'm sure Obama would love to grant blanket amnesty to all the illegals, he obviously needs to try to conserve whatever political capital he has left at the moment.  I'd love to see him turn his back on shitheads like Gutierrez, La Raza, etc. even if only out of necessity.

I don't see Obama as having deeply held views on immigration reform.  I expect he'll try to split the difference between unions and immigrant bashers on the one hand and Latinos and immigrant loving progressives on the other.

[Razgovory]

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"You went from a humanizing definition of the community to a criminalizing definition of the community," Gutierrez said."

But they are criminals.

If you believe a law is unjust, do you call those who break it criminals or victims?

As one of the people here I most respect what do you actually have to say about the issue (I know it's shocking, but I actually respect the opinions of lots of people here).

[derspiess]

I don't see Obama as having deeply held views on immigration reform. 

The hell he doesn't.  He & other Dems see future Democrat voters when they look at illegal immigrants.  That's not to say he isn't pragmatic enough to try to placate the unions.