U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

[crazy canuck]

If a QB playing college football can get away with plastering this sort of thing across the bottom of his eyes so that the tv cameras have to pick up the reference, I am not really sure what the big deal is here.

Tebow would freak Europeans out. 

I'm shocked that none of those asshole militant atheist groups like ACLU went after Florida over him.

God showing disfavour by making him lose was enough.

[Neil]

I'm shocked that none of those asshole militant atheist groups like ACLU went after Florida over him.

Cause the ACLU is not an atheist organization.
Tebow is just exercising his constitutionally protected rights, which is what the ACLU is there to defend.

Of course it is.  Berkut defends the ACLU, therefore it is atheist.

[The Brain]

LOL Slargos I feel your pain. The Malthus wall of non-understanding was pretty amusing to watch.

[Malthus]

Also would they really be offended by us blaspheming our own scriptures?  If we were putting Islamic stuff on the guns I can see that but since when do Muslims get offended by Christian stuff?

I doubt they would be offended by the blasphemy of it all. More likely they would point to it as "proof" that our armies are really there as Christian "Crusaders".

[Malthus]

Perhaps, but our efforts in places like Afganistan where we have to rely in part on Muslims (who may be only slighly less religious that the ones fighting us and so may be offended by this sort of thing) are not made easier by such stuff. I admit that to my mind this is a nothing-of-a-nothing, just typical fundie foolishness - but our enemies are likely to use it as propaganda against us with our "friends". 

Sorta reminisent of the events leading up to the great Indian mutiny, where it was alleged that the sepoy's cartridges were smeared with the fat of pigs and cows.

It's just an excuse, and they've never had any shortages of those.  If it's not the letters and numbers after the serial number on a sight, it'll be some other silly bullshit thing.

Edit:  What Berkut said.

I certainly sympathize with this POV. I merely point out that folks get riled up over symbolism and so, to the extent it can do us harm, feeding them ammunition isn't a particularly good idea. It isn't like we are going to compromise our own values by *not* having semi-secret religious codes on our military hardware. 

[Malthus]

LOL Slargos I feel your pain. The Malthus wall of non-understanding was pretty amusing to watch.

It's easy to amuse a Swede. Just leave him alone with an immigrant ... or some livestock.

[crazy canuck]

LOL Slargos I feel your pain. The Malthus wall of non-understanding was pretty amusing to watch.

It's easy to amuse a Swede. Just leave him alone with an immigrant ... or some livestock.

But please dont leave them along with both. 

[Malthus]

LOL Slargos I feel your pain. The Malthus wall of non-understanding was pretty amusing to watch.

It's easy to amuse a Swede. Just leave him alone with an immigrant ... or some livestock.

But please dont leave them along with both.

With a tent and some tickets, they could have a show running in no time!

[The Minsky Moment]

I certainly sympathize with this POV. I merely point out that folks get riled up over symbolism and so, to the extent it can do us harm, feeding them ammunition isn't a particularly good idea. It isn't like we are going to compromise our own values by *not* having semi-secret religious codes on our military hardware.

On the contrary, to the extent that these scopes are being purchased as part of federal procurement program, it is inconsistent with American values.

Although really the people who should be most offended by this are serious, practicing Christians.  One does not need to be a very sophisticated reader of the NT to grasp that Jesus might not be thrilled with the idea of his message being used as a good luck charm on a sniper scope.  Unfortunately, the trend in America appears to be favoring the rise of Christianized neo-paganism, where crude superstitions and magical beliefs are touched over with a patina of Christian jargon.

[Malthus]

On the contrary, to the extent that these scopes are being purchased as part of federal procurement program, it is inconsistent with American values.

Although really the people who should be most offended by this are serious, practicing Christians.  One does not need to be a very sophisticated reader of the NT to grasp that Jesus might not be thrilled with the idea of his message being used as a good luck charm on a sniper scope.  Unfortunately, the trend in America appears to be favoring the rise of Christianized neo-paganism, where crude superstitions and magical beliefs are touched over with a patina of Christian jargon.

Would it be excessively snarky of me to note that something like 90% of so-called "Christians" throughout history fall into that category? 

[PRC]

Would it be excessively snarky of me to note that something like 90% of so-called "Christians" throughout history fall into that category? 

90% might even be a little low.

[Berkut]

I certainly sympathize with this POV. I merely point out that folks get riled up over symbolism and so, to the extent it can do us harm, feeding them ammunition isn't a particularly good idea. It isn't like we are going to compromise our own values by *not* having semi-secret religious codes on our military hardware.

On the contrary, to the extent that these scopes are being purchased as part of federal procurement program, it is inconsistent with American values.

Although really the people who should be most offended by this are serious, practicing Christians.  One does not need to be a very sophisticated reader of the NT to grasp that Jesus might not be thrilled with the idea of his message being used as a good luck charm on a sniper scope.  Unfortunately, the trend in America appears to be favoring the rise of Christianized neo-paganism, where crude superstitions and magical beliefs are touched over with a patina of Christian jargon.

WWJD: .30-06

[crazy canuck]

Would it be excessively snarky of me to note that something like 90% of so-called "Christians" throughout history fall into that category? 

I was about to post the same thing but deleted the text before posting because I realized I would have been excessively snarky. 

[Berkut]

Would it be excessively snarky of me to note that something like 90% of so-called "Christians" throughout history fall into that category? 

I was about to post the same thing but deleted the text before posting because I realized I would have been excessively snarky. 

That is kind of snarky.

[crazy canuck]

Would it be excessively snarky of me to note that something like 90% of so-called "Christians" throughout history fall into that category? 

I was about to post the same thing but deleted the text before posting because I realized I would have been excessively snarky. 

That is kind of snarky.

But not excessively so.