Swine Flu

[Cecil]

But hey, people prefer to take their sick days and stay home feeling bad.  Figures.

Nothing sucks worse than taking a sick day, and then feeling too poorly to enjoy it. 

I tend to remind myself of that when I wish I could get some sickdays. When I do get that sickness staying at home looking at the cracks in the roof isnt that great even if you do get to sleep in.

[saskganesh]

one to two weeks est. delivery to begin general vaccinations may now be "several weeks."

anyhow, the whole delivery system was flawed:

Before the tragedies, no one had expected such large crowds to come out. Those who worked on Ontario's pandemic plan, which serves as a model for the rest of the country, had foreseen worst-case scenarios involving illness, not inoculations. Pandemic planners considered situations in which the entire health-care system would become overwhelmed with sick people, and how hospitals and clinics would cope with the workload.

But vaccines? They didn't see people rushing for those.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/ottawa-got-last-minute-warning-of-shortfall-in-h1n1-vaccine/article1346246/

if Ontario's pandemic plan is a "model for the rest of the country", I would be concerned.

and they didn't "expect a rush", despite the urgings from politicians and health officials for everyone to get vaccinated.

[crazy canuck]

My youngest son is running a fever (not too high though)  and it looks like my wife (who never gets sick) is getting sick as well.

[viper37]

and they didn't "expect a rush", despite the urgings from politicians and health officials for everyone to get vaccinated.

Polls showed at most 50% of the population willing to get the vaccine.  In Quebec, that was 30%, before the hockey kid died
Now, the vaccination centers are overwhelmed, and the health dept had to restate the order of priority.

[viper37]

My youngest son is running a fever (not too high though)  and it looks like my wife (who never gets sick) is getting sick as well.

that sucks

[saskganesh]

just remember kids, people in need didn't get their vaccine, because BB insisted that he get his first.

[Barrister]

just remember kids, people in need didn't get their vaccine, because BB insisted that he get his first.

Remember kids - vaccines in the Yukon are not transferrable to other jurisdictions.  And Yukon has no shortages of vaccine.

Also remember - with a pregnant wife it was actually important for me to get the vaccine.

[Neil]

The implementation of the program here in Toronto has so far been craptastic.

My wife took Carl to get vaccinated; the wait was 6 hours, and she was lucky to get in at all.  There were only 2 clinics open - for a city of nearly 3 million people. 

That's impossible.  Michael Moore assured us that we did not wait at all for our health care.

he was mistaken. sometimes you have to wait... especially when people are all panicky. The news makes every clinic look like it's populated by the parents from a South Park or Simpsons cartoon.

patience is a virtue.

Indeed.  I'm planning to get vaccinated some time in 2016.

[Grey Fox]

I'm still Flu free even tho I took the Subway twice & went to the Bell Centre this weekend!

Will I still be : Wednesday?

[Alexandru H.]

It reached my home town today. It is said that 0,01% of all infected people will die.  It's a tragedy!

[saskganesh]

just remember kids, people in need didn't get their vaccine, because BB insisted that he get his first.

Remember kids - vaccines in the Yukon are not transferrable to other jurisdictions.  And Yukon has no shortages of vaccine.

Also remember - with a pregnant wife it was actually important for me to get the vaccine.

"now you are just making excuses"

[Martinus]

As far as I know, I'm not in the at-risk group that needs the shot per se, and as such I don't see a huge reason to get the shot.

What would push me over into the yes camp is the consideration I need to take in relation to my nieces.

I really don't know, but I am not worried.

What are the risk groups for this one? Are they substantially different from the normal one?

For the record I am getting my seasonal flu vaccine on Wednesday. As for the swine flu, they will be introduced in Poland in a few weeks when the Polish government is happy side effects are not worse than the flu itself (not sure if this means Polish government is so incompetent or so reasonable).

[Barrister]

What are the risk groups for this one? Are they substantially different from the normal one?

The risk groups are pretty much the same as the usual flu.  They are risk groups because they have somewhat weakened immune systems.

Thee risk groups are:

-children
-pregnant women
-older people
-people with otherwise weakened immune systems or respiratory problems

[Martinus]

those older than 24 without an underlying concern are at greatest risk,

you are younger than 24?

[Martinus]

Still, console yourself by knowin his immune system has been propped with the h1n1 anticorps by the vaccine, even after a few days though not long enough to prevent the infection. So his body is better prepared to fight it.

Err, doesn't it mean that his body is actually fighting off the weakened flu from the vaccine and possibly a second flu he also caught, thus is less rather than more prepared?

There is a reason why people who are suffering from flu or even common cold shouldn't be vaccinated before they recover, you know.