Swine Flu

[Ed Anger]

There were some very long line-ups here when I got the shot.  I don't know how you avoid it though.

There are ways

[ulmont]

You dont think it is possible to have symptoms that are similar to H1N1 (shortness of breath being the big one that concern doctors and cause them to test) and not have H1N1 but some other underlying cause.  Really?

I certainly think that is possible; as I noted, some 67.5% of people who had specimens tested (presumably based on H1N1 related symptoms) did not have any influenza virus at all.

What I think is unlikely, based on the stats, is that anyone has an influenza virus and does not have H1N1.

[crazy canuck]

What I think is unlikely, based on the stats, is that anyone has an influenza virus and does not have H1N1.

Why?  If no one is testing people to confirm other types of influenza why dont you suspect bias in the sample?

[ulmont]

Why?  If no one is testing people to confirm other types of influenza why dont you suspect bias in the sample?

Because people are being tested and found not to have influenza?

[saskganesh]

radio reports are that people are very frustrated about execution. long lineups emerging, not enough clinics, not enough support staff, not enough people to answer the phones. it goes on.

There were some very long line-ups here when I got the shot.  I don't know how you avoid it though.

wait until the lineups thin out?

queuing up all afternoon with a bunch of maybe sick, and very stressed people, is low of my list of things to do.

it can't be good for one's health.

[viper37]

Why?  If no one is testing people to confirm other types of influenza why dont you suspect bias in the sample?

they test in the early stages, i.e. when there's not a ton of sick people.  When there's ton of sick people, they only test the serious cases, and they assume that since they found only H1N1 so far, everyone sick has it.

[crazy canuck]

Why?  If no one is testing people to confirm other types of influenza why dont you suspect bias in the sample?

they test in the early stages, i.e. when there's not a ton of sick people.  When there's ton of sick people, they only test the serious cases, and they assume that since they found only H1N1 so far, everyone sick has it.

Which is exactly why the data is suspect.

[Barrister]

radio reports are that people are very frustrated about execution. long lineups emerging, not enough clinics, not enough support staff, not enough people to answer the phones. it goes on.

There were some very long line-ups here when I got the shot.  I don't know how you avoid it though.

wait until the lineups thin out?

queuing up all afternoon with a bunch of maybe sick, and very stressed people, is low of my list of things to do.

it can't be good for one's health.

Meh.   When they told me it would be an hour and a half I just went home and got a book, then returned.  I only had to wait an hour it turns out.

It sounds like you're looking for an excuse not to get the shot.

[Grey Fox]

not that it matters but I am sure as hell ain't going to wait 5h for the shot.

[crazy canuck]

We have arranged for someone to come to the office to give all the staff (and their families) the shot.  The trouble is with coordinating when they will have access to the vaccine.  Probably the 4th.

[Drakken]

not that it matters but I am sure as hell ain't going to wait 5h for the shot.

I'll go on November 7th, which is a Saturday and I don't work weekends. I can wait a few hours allright to get the shot.

[Drakken]

We have arranged for someone to come to the office to give all the staff (and their families) the shot.  The trouble is with coordinating when they will have access to the vaccine.  Probably the 4th.

Man you are lucky to be able to do this, while in Quebec everything is currently centralized into the public healthcare system.

[lustindarkness]

Will this be the one to trigger World War Z?

[Faeelin]

Incidentally, the shot's only 68% effective. Have fun everyone. 

[Barrister]

Incidentally, the shot's only 68% effective. Have fun everyone. 

But not getting the shot is 0% effective.