Victoria 2

[Josquius]

Why is costumers such a common mistake foreigners tend to make with English? Its just....silly.

So you can't do events n certain dates with the new games eh? Can you still do date ranges? Pretty easy to just do between 3rd of June and the 3rd of June then

[Tamas]

In this case, they are right. Fuck determinism. I understand its less of an issue than with EU2/3 but still.

And VGN has my vote anyways, assuming Paradox will let it be released at all.

[Maladict]

So you can't do events n certain dates with the new games eh? Can you still do date ranges? Pretty easy to just do between 3rd of June and the 3rd of June then

No. There's always a chance it won't fire at all.

[Alexandru H.]

This is better 

From Paradox Interactive Facebook page

This is getting ridiculous! Third winner who has declined a trip to Stockholm! it's like we have leprosy or something! The search continues over the holidays!

[Faeelin]

From the Vicky2 forum:

Event on set date - a petition.
I am well aware of the direction that EU3 has, that HoI3 has, and that Victoria 2 is going to have. I clearly understand that from PI's perspective, they've found a model that works, as in they get more costumers, the costumers are more content, and the games are overall better.
And I agree. Going back to the deterministic games would ruin the experience for most, and would probably be a bad business decision for PI.

But out there, there's still those who long for a deterministic game. A history book, so to speak. And in order to commode those needs, PI need to add a single trigger to the Clausewitz engine: The ability to force an event on a specific date.

This would be a gift to modders who want to make their game deterministic, and thus it would make the last group of costumers content with the game.

Thread is closed by King:

We have higher priorities that tyring to cater for a tiny protion of our market.

That says it all really. 

I had no idea the player who didn't want Abraham Lincoln elected in 1859 were a tiny portion of their market.

[sbr]

It is a tiny portion of the market they WANT to have.  Unfortunately for them, the changes they are making won't bring enough new customers to make up for the loyal fan-base they told to go fuck themselves.

[Syt]

It is a tiny portion of the market they WANT to have.  Unfortunately for them, the changes they are making won't bring enough new customers to make up for the loyal fan-base they told to go fuck themselves.

One should think they would have learned from the original "nothing is predetermined to make for GREAT multiplayer" EU3 approach.

[Josquius]

Multiplayer FTL.
I hate the OTT priority given to that by so many companies these days at the expense of single player fun.

[sbr]

It is a tiny portion of the market they WANT to have.  Unfortunately for them, the changes they are making won't bring enough new customers to make up for the loyal fan-base they told to go fuck themselves.

One should think they would have learned from the original "nothing is predetermined to make for GREAT multiplayer" EU3 approach.

I have no problem with them deciding to go with the sandbox style game approach, it is their company.  The institutional arrogance that seems to have developed there though is amazing.  To shit on the small but loyal group of fans--who would previously buy any game they made, whether they would play it or not--by not even acknowledge the idea of a trigger for a specific day is ridiculous.

[Syt]

Multiplayer FTL.
I hate the OTT priority given to that by so many companies these days at the expense of single player fun.

I guess that was just an honest miscalculation by Paradox: one of the reasons for EU2's longevity and long run of post release patches was a hardcore group of MPers (of which Johan was a part) which may have led them to believe that those are their new target audience for EU3.

[Josephus]

This is better 

From Paradox Interactive Facebook page

This is getting ridiculous! Third winner who has declined a trip to Stockholm! it's like we have leprosy or something! The search continues over the holidays!

If I win I'd take them up on the trip to Stockholm. But...do I have to like, hang out with them, or can I do my own thing?

[Tamas]

This is better 

From Paradox Interactive Facebook page

This is getting ridiculous! Third winner who has declined a trip to Stockholm! it's like we have leprosy or something! The search continues over the holidays!

If I win I'd take them up on the trip to Stockholm. But...do I have to like, hang out with them, or can I do my own thing?

I think they will be hosting/helping to organize a convention, and the winner would be like presented there / asked to participate as "voice of the gamer" or somesuch. Still I dont see why people would decline this.  The first expected his child to be born around the travelling time, no info was given for the other two Razgorovies.

[alfred russel]

In this case, they are right. Fuck determinism. I understand its less of an issue than with EU2/3 but still.

And VGN has my vote anyways, assuming Paradox will let it be released at all.

I think Johan resists determinism as an excuse for stupid things that happen in his games.

[HisMajestyBOB]

From the Vicky2 forum:

Event on set date - a petition.
I am well aware of the direction that EU3 has, that HoI3 has, and that Victoria 2 is going to have. I clearly understand that from PI's perspective, they've found a model that works, as in they get more costumers, the costumers are more content, and the games are overall better.
And I agree. Going back to the deterministic games would ruin the experience for most, and would probably be a bad business decision for PI.

But out there, there's still those who long for a deterministic game. A history book, so to speak. And in order to commode those needs, PI need to add a single trigger to the Clausewitz engine: The ability to force an event on a specific date.

This would be a gift to modders who want to make their game deterministic, and thus it would make the last group of costumers content with the game.

Thread is closed by King:

We have higher priorities that tyring to cater for a tiny protion of our market.

That says it all really. 

I had no idea the player who didn't want Abraham Lincoln elected in 1859 were a tiny portion of their market.

Those are also the same players who apparently want the Crimean War and Franco-Prussian wars to happen on the exact same day, every game, even if Russia has been reduced to 5 provinces and Prussia has just finished a long and exhausting war with Austria.

[sbr]

From the Vicky2 forum:

Event on set date - a petition.
I am well aware of the direction that EU3 has, that HoI3 has, and that Victoria 2 is going to have. I clearly understand that from PI's perspective, they've found a model that works, as in they get more costumers, the costumers are more content, and the games are overall better.
And I agree. Going back to the deterministic games would ruin the experience for most, and would probably be a bad business decision for PI.

But out there, there's still those who long for a deterministic game. A history book, so to speak. And in order to commode those needs, PI need to add a single trigger to the Clausewitz engine: The ability to force an event on a specific date.

This would be a gift to modders who want to make their game deterministic, and thus it would make the last group of costumers content with the game.

Thread is closed by King:

We have higher priorities that tyring to cater for a tiny protion of our market.

That says it all really. 

I had no idea the player who didn't want Abraham Lincoln elected in 1859 were a tiny portion of their market.

Those are also the same players who apparently want the Crimean War and Franco-Prussian wars to happen on the exact same day, every game, even if Russia has been reduced to 5 provinces and Prussia has just finished a long and exhausting war with Austria.

That seems silly to me too; but there is a substantial number of loyal fans who want that; Paradox, through King, just told that group of people to go fuck off, regardless of how many of their games they had bought previously.  I have no idea about programming of a game but would it really be that hard to add a trigger to allow events to fire on a certain day?