Victoria 2

[Josephus]

I really like Victoria, I guess I'm in the minority.

I liked it too, actually. Especially with the Revs expansion pack. It didn't have the longevity for me, though, that the EU series had. I got bored with it fairly quickly.

[Ed Anger]

I got tired of manually reinforcing divisions. Raping France and Russia as Prussia? Awesome.

[Josquius]

I loved Vicky, the only trouble with it was the troubles of the era- only half a dozen or so nations to play and have big fun from. I demand a paradox game map editor!

[Valmy]

I really like Victoria, I guess I'm in the minority.

It's alright but it was far too much energy to ever just fire up a game on a lark.  It didn't start slow and suck you in like CK or EU do which are far superior games IMO.

[garbon]

It's alright but it was far too much energy to ever just fire up a game on a lark.  It didn't start slow and suck you in like CK or EU do which are far superior games IMO.

I totally liked the idea of it. I just couldn't really ever get myself into it as it seemed to require so much thought/energy.

[garbon]

2.  Nice to see OHGamer is still a pile of dog shit.

I'd like to throw my hat in the ring as best gay P'dox mod.

[crazy canuck]

It is rather astonishing how thoroughly Paradox has managed to squander the enormous good will they had accumulated with their early releases.  Up through HoI2, I pretty much bought everything they made, knowing that (1) they would fix any problems, and (2) that their design philosophy was enough like my playing philosophy that even a somewhat broken game would still be fun.

Nowadays, I view them with considerable suspicion, both o the grounds that I don't know if they will fix broken games, and I don't know if the design will be fun even if they do.  I got EU3 complete on sale, and that's been it.

That's quite a change.

Agreed.  I am not sure where they went wrong but somewhere along the line I went from automatically buying all Paradox products to waiting to see if the the games were good and then not buying at all.

CAL'S TWO CENTS

1.  If Johan is going to make posts like that one, someone needs to kindly ask him from refraining from posting at all, aside from announcing new patches.

Agreed.  What a silly thing for Johan to say.  In the early days he benefited greatly from the feedback he got from the community.  Now he thinks that his small group can do better.  It seems that recent results should convince him that he should pay more attention to what people might want in the game.

[dps]

The thing is, you can't please everyone, and not all suggestions are created equal, but there's no reason to just slag someone off like that.  Just be polite and non-committal ("Thanks for your suggestion.  We'll certainly take it into consideration") or just don't reply at all.

[garbon]

just don't reply at all.

P'dox fans get awfully whiny if you do that to them.

[dps]

just don't reply at all.

P'dox fans get awfully whiny if you do that to them.

Yeah, so every once in a while, you reply to the whining:  "Sorry I didn't respond specifically to your suggestion.  We're real busy working on the game, so I don't have time to reply to each and every post offering advice.  Be assured, though, that we do read them all, and give them every consideration."

[garbon]

God I hope I never have to say that. I might vomit.

[dps]

Yeah, especially when what you really want to say is, "Your idea is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life."

[Razgovory]

A person can't be expected to respond to a thousand suggestions half of them coming from Eastern Europeans who will pirate the game anyway.  Or Finns.

[Neil]

A person can't be expected to respond to a thousand suggestions half of them coming from Eastern Europeans who will pirate the game anyway.  Or Finns.

Especially when most of those suggestions relate to their own retardo countries, and how they should conquer all the other retardo countries.

[Caliga]

God I hope I never have to say that. I might vomit.

It's really not that hard.  Type it out once, and then do a cut and paste job.  That's what I do at work every time some moron in the field makes yet another ridiculous report modification request.